Giving beatings when the Master/Dom is extremely angry

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DS4DUMMIES -> Giving beatings when the Master/Dom is extremely angry (10/18/2007 3:41:35 PM)
A discussion arose today about whether or not a Dom/Master, who has had so many of his buttons pushed by his submissive/slave in a short span of time (an hour or less, in a manner designed to be mean and provoking) - should with his anger fully inflamed, take to beating his slave - or - should he wait until his temper abates. Assume he did not react initially because he read that she was trying to incite him. The anger builds and finally he explodes. We're not talking play - we're talking a genuine interest/effort on the woman's part to infuriate him, likely because she was angry with him for some reason. What then? My own thought is that one does not strike a submissive/slave when the man's anger is nearly out of control, no matter how badly she provokes him. The possibility of losing control, for some people at least, is very great. Others say give her a beating to remember and show her who is boss? . Seems to me of she is poking at you like this, you don't really have a good relationship anyway and beating someone out of uncontrolled anger (as opposed to doing so with your head on straight) is dangerous. Any thoughts? Ds4

ownedgirlie -> RE: Giving beatings when the Master/Dom is extremely angry (10/18/2007 3:48:29 PM)
My thought is if an Owner does not wish to damage his (her) property, then risks of doing so should be avoided by waiting until such Owner is of sound mind before physically punishing. And I agree, if the slave is pushing that many buttons, there are some issues to tend to.

DarkDaddyZ -> RE: Giving beatings when the Master/Dom is extremely angry (10/18/2007 3:50:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie My thought is if an Owner does not wish to damage his (her) property, then risks of doing so should be avoided by waiting until such Owner is of sound mind before physically punishing. And I agree, if the slave is pushing that many buttons, there are some issues to tend to. I believe that one should never punish physically when angry. Or at least use corporal punishment at that time. I have punished while angry but to defuse the situation such as enforcing cold showers over and over and things such as that.

LadyLynx -> RE: Giving beatings when the Master/Dom is extremely angry (10/18/2007 3:51:42 PM)
If my sub/slave was trying that crap with me, then he/she doesn't need to see me for a couple of days. And I agree about not meting out punishment while angry.

FRSguy -> RE: Giving beatings when the Master/Dom is extremely angry (10/18/2007 3:52:41 PM)
If the slave is pushing that many buttons then I would think you would have to stop and find out why or whats up. Of course the slave in that situation would probably have to be punished severly but then there is allways the chance that they want to get punished so figuring out a good punishment would probably take a while. As far as striking while angry NEVER! Way to easy to loose or not pay attention to what is going on when striking while angry.

MrDiscipline44 -> RE: Giving beatings when the Master/Dom is extremely angry (10/18/2007 4:02:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DS4DUMMIES Any thoughts? Ds4 Yeah, toss the cunt out on her ass. She's clearly playing a game and well, I don't play games by other peoples rules. Why waste your time on a dumb bitch that clearly doesn't understand how the dynamic works.

Dari -> RE: Giving beatings when the Master/Dom is extremely angry (10/18/2007 4:03:34 PM)
My general rule is - any pain I inflict should be by design, never by accident or thoughtlessness. Anger makes me thoughtless, or less able to judge appropriateness. I would never punish in anger. If for some reason my sub does something that requires punishment, and it pushes enough buttons that I am angry about it, then I put the sub in a place where I am not in contact with him (if that's not seeing me, or tied up and somewhere out of my way, whatever) - and punishment happens when I'm calm and rational again. Hurting for fun is play. Hurting for punishment is teaching, and no teaching is successful when the teacher is enraged. And when my subs come to me, my promise to them is that I will protect and care for them as long as they are mine - which includes protecting them from my anger, if necessary. If I simply can't let the anger go and punish with a clear heart, then release is the punishment they've earned.

slaveelle -> RE: Giving beatings when the Master/Dom is extremely angry (10/18/2007 4:10:00 PM)
Striking out at a slave/submissive while in anger is a definate no-no. With that much anger consuming him he cannot be in control of his actions. From the OP it seems if the slave/submissive is going to that length to anger him then there must be something underlying, If there isnt then he should seriously start to question why she is there.

angelikaJ -> RE: Giving beatings when the Master/Dom is extremely angry (10/18/2007 4:10:42 PM)
As soon as the element of control is gone things have become dangerous. As dangerous as any "vanilla" relationship that becomes violent. It may be that she actually has lost control first...she is being abusive and goes after him until... . He has other options besides continuing to engage in something that will put them both at risk, and needs to excercise them before things get out of control. He needs to be able to be in control without regards to her behavior.

junecleaver -> RE: Giving beatings when the Master/Dom is extremely angry (10/18/2007 4:33:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DS4DUMMIES A discussion arose today about whether or not a Dom/Master, who has had so many of his buttons pushed by his submissive/slave in a short span of time (an hour or less, in a manner designed to be mean and provoking) - should with his anger fully inflamed, take to beating his slave - or - should he wait until his temper abates. Assume he did not react initially because he read that she was trying to incite him. The anger builds and finally he explodes. We're not talking play - we're talking a genuine interest/effort on the woman's part to infuriate him, likely because she was angry with him for some reason. What then? My own thought is that one does not strike a submissive/slave when the man's anger is nearly out of control, no matter how badly she provokes him. The possibility of losing control, for some people at least, is very great. Others say give her a beating to remember and show her who is boss? . Seems to me of she is poking at you like this, you don't really have a good relationship anyway and beating someone out of uncontrolled anger (as opposed to doing so with your head on straight) is dangerous. Any thoughts? Ds4 If I ever behaved that way, he would have taken care of it way before it escalated. He's said many times, he would never hit me in anger. Although, he's definitely smacked me once or twice because I was being annoying. [;)]

windchymes -> RE: Giving beatings when the Master/Dom is extremely angry (10/18/2007 4:51:32 PM)
My thoughts are that both parties would have some growin' up to do.

kitttty -> RE: Giving beatings when the Master/Dom is extremely angry (10/18/2007 7:13:01 PM)
The Master would never hit me when angry. He never said he wouldn't, but i know. iv'e made him very angry and he gave me a long scolding and then became very distant and reticent for several days. He might have hit me out of frustration once, but even then i doubt it.

laurell3 -> RE: Giving beatings when the Master/Dom is extremely angry (10/18/2007 7:19:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrDiscipline44 quote: ORIGINAL: DS4DUMMIES Any thoughts? Ds4 Yeah, toss the cunt out on her ass. She's clearly playing a game and well, I don't play games by other peoples rules. Why waste your time on a dumb bitch that clearly doesn't understand how the dynamic works. Oddly I actually agree with MrD, if she antagonizes to that extreme when she's upset rather than communcating, punishment isn't appropriate, taking a good hard look at the relationship is. Never hit someone in anger, that is just plain common sense.

licia71 -> RE: Giving beatings when the Master/Dom is extremely angry (10/18/2007 7:20:14 PM)
fast reply My Master has hit me while angry, but He never lost control. And I agree with MrDiscipline44.

sublizzie -> RE: Giving beatings when the Master/Dom is extremely angry (10/18/2007 7:23:43 PM)
If an "s" type is willing to make a Dominant/Master that angry, they probably have an ulterior motive. Striking them while angry and leaving any kind of mark could be used against the D/M by legal authorities. I just don't see this as a safe practice for the Dominant. Just my thoughts........

Lordandmaster -> RE: Giving beatings when the Master/Dom is extremely angry (10/18/2007 7:24:37 PM)
Yes, good point licia, I was going to say that it's possible to be angry without losing control. I agree that it's a bad idea to punish someone while you're ENRAGED--when you can't focus on anything except how furious you are. But sometimes the anger won't go away UNTIL you carry out the necessary punishment.

KnightofMists -> RE: Giving beatings when the Master/Dom is extremely angry (10/18/2007 7:36:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DS4DUMMIES Any thoughts? Ds4 It is my personal opinion that a person should never engage in BDSM play when they are unable to control/manage their actions REGARDLESS of the emotions they are feeling.

HardnRuff -> RE: Giving beatings when the Master/Dom is extremely angry (10/18/2007 8:31:12 PM)
One should Never ever raise a hand in anger ,, and if she is trying to goad you into sterness, then she is topping from the bottom and will be released if shes Mine .

Lashra -> RE: Giving beatings when the Master/Dom is extremely angry (10/18/2007 9:06:34 PM)
I don't ever beat my property when I am angry. When we are angry we act like adults and either talk about it, or go our separate ways until we cool down and can talk about it. I think a Dominant who beats their slave when angry is a asshole and abusive in my eyes. If he/she/it can't Master their temper then they have no business trying to Master another human being. As for the sub/slave acting that way, thats a clear sign that something is WRONG and instead of beating this person senseless, it would be wiser to talk to them and sort things out. Just my opinion. ~Lashra

RRafe -> RE: Giving beatings when the Master/Dom is extremely angry (10/18/2007 9:36:54 PM)
I'm too aware of the manpulation when someone tries this with me. It makes me go cold and silent. Do it enough and I just leave. Anger has never been an issue-I have had enough suffering in life. I don't get angry these days-I forget.

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