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RE: *revived* SSRI side effects---I hope??? - 11/19/2007 6:59:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		Most meds need six weeks to get out of the system, you've only had two. If your doctor doesn't get it, you need to be a lot more forceful in your words. When he says wait for love, tell him you are in love, now how does he plan to get your sex drive working again. If he can't help, ask for a referral to a psychopharmacologist who will be able to help, or at least explain what's going on.

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RE: SSRI side effects---I hope??? - 11/19/2007 10:28:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		Check with your health care provider about possiable side effects from prolonged use of this medication. Also, ask to see if counceling could be benifical for you.

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RE: SSRI side effects---I hope??? - 11/20/2007 12:19:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		   SSRI?  Selective seratonine reuptake inhibitors?  It's been a while since I was in college and I didn't finish, but have an opinion, if anyone is really interested.  I strongly DISAGREE with medicating ANYTHING without serious thought.  I've been to psychologists and counselors all my life.  I've tried anti depressants.  They made me want to saw my leg off with a smile.  I suggest cognitive therapy and honesty.

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RE: SSRI side effects---I hope??? - 11/20/2007 1:55:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		While I do appreciate your input, some folks have chemical depression which needs the medication. It isn't always a matter of changing ones scenery or talk therapy.I do agree that it has been made too easy for people to ask for medication instead of working through or dealing with the situation.In my case I have clinical depression excaserbated by a host of medical problems. I spelled excaserbated wrong I think lol. Update, I am fully on the Wellbutrin and have been for a few days. So far I feel no change in my sexual functioning which really bums me out... my dom is visiting me for a week in less than two weeks dang it! I so so so wanted to be the sexually needy creature I used to be. I've not given up though. Thanks all, for the PMs and the support.

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RE: SSRI side effects---I hope??? - 11/20/2007 2:21:09 AM   
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While I do appreciate your input, some folks have chemical depression which needs the medication. It isn't always a matter of changing ones scenery or talk therapy.I do agree that it has been made too easy for people to ask for medication instead of working through or dealing with the situation.In my case I have clinical depression excaserbated by a host of medical problems. I spelled excaserbated wrong I think lol. Update, I am fully on the Wellbutrin and have been for a few days. So far I feel no change in my sexual functioning which really bums me out... my dom is visiting me for a week in less than two weeks dang it! I so so so wanted to be the sexually needy creature I used to be. I've not given up though. Thanks all, for the PMs and the support.


Hang in there. Wellbutrin is a very good drug and it does take a while for the SSRI to clear out of your system.

Also, in all this talk about Citalopram, I'm surprised no one has mentioned its newer derivative, Escitalopram. The drug is more effective against depression and, IMO, has less sexual side effects.

Note I said less, not none. While taking a previous dose of Escitalopram (Lexapro in the U.S., Cipralex in Canada) I was as horny as ever, but had great difficulty reaching orgasm! I would get to plateau and feel like I was just about to come, then it wouldn't happen until many minutes later. Actually, some people might enjoy that experience, but I found it very frustrating.

However, that was solved not by going off of the Escitalopram, but by reducing the dose from 10mg/day to 5 mg/day. This is less than the recommended prescription dose, but still enough to keep my depression under control.

And yes, Camille, some folks definitely have brain disorders and mental illnesses that require medication to treat; these should be differentiated from neurosis that are often "dismissed" by throwing drugs at the patient. Talk therapy is probably beneficial for everyone, but for some of us, no amount of therapy will heal what is at the heart of our problems -- a clinical psychosis such as Unipolar Depression, Bipolar Disorder (Type I or II), Schizophrenia, or Schizoaffective Disorder.

Think of the idea as similar to advocating talk therapy for Type I Diabetes instead of insulin. People can immediately see that idea is ludicrous, but some persist in believing that almost no one needs psychiatric drugs. I, personally, would never have been able to have a normal life -- in fact, I would have died before now if not for psychiatric medications and the medical professionals who correctly diagnosed and treated me.

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RE: SSRI side effects---I hope??? - 11/20/2007 2:23:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you HollyBlue. I 'am' hopeful but possibly I am too impatient lol. Tis been 5 years of non-functioning sexuality and oh jeeeeeeeez I've had enough dang it!So thanks for the encouraging words from you.

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RE: SSRI side effects---I hope??? - 12/14/2007 2:07:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		SSRI's are infamous for killing off sex drive- as is depression. SSRI's are also infamous for not working. They were actually developed for use as an anxiolytic, a substutute for benzodoazapines (Valium) but market testing showed they'd sell better as anti depressents.
They're all the same, pretty much- this is the fashionable drug of the moment because it's new. Lot's of marketing cash to buy "prescriber interest". I wouldn't take an SSRI if I was paid, but I'm just the cash cow that pays for private jets...
It's all about billion dollar blockbusters on Wall Street, kids. I fallow Big Pharma for part of my job.
I take an MAOI, the ones you've been told are dangerous? Dangerous to the stockholders purses. They're decades out of patent but give complete remission. I'm horny as high school, and british psychiatrists assure me this is healthy. In the USA Psydocs don't want to talk about sex.
The seratonin shortage theory is acnowledged to be wrong; your doctor knows these drugs, and the double up drugs that regulate seratonin and norepinephrine suck. But it's all he's been trained in and he has to feed the mortgage. And the drug co. rep might stop sending in those fancy sandwiches the caterer drops off every day for the whole office... I kid you not. Free lunch every day. God forbid he use tricyclics or Parnate and have it work. Welcome to the slaughter, my lamb. Wait until he starts in about Zyprexa.
Tip of the iceberg. You are the only person who cares if it doesn't work, because another pill will be released and you'd be persueded to try it even if this DID work...

You think I'm kidding? Hit Google. In fact, don't get a prescription filled until you've Googled and dug around. The drug label tells you no truths.

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RE: SSRI side effects---I hope??? - 12/14/2007 5:10:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've done a lot of research and for decades I have been aware of the nefarious reasons for the pharma industry pushing or not pushing certain things. It angers and disgusts me. Well it has been a month since I've been fully on the Wellbutrin. I gathered up the courage then forced myself into the mindset of 'hey if it happens yay, if it doesn't happen life goes on' and put batteries into my new vibrator. OH HOLY COW yup I orgasmed. I think I scared the pets in the other room I orgasmed so hard and so so wonderfully. Just once. It hasn't happened again. It didn't happen the entire time with my dom  although the arousal level itself is beginning to come back to life. So I'm going to back off the whole concept until after the holidays, that will have given me 2 months on the Wellbutrin so maybe.. maybe things will change?In a way it has let me hide and I know inside that isn't a good thing. It let me hide and not date after getting divorced, not have any close physical [or one night stands even haha] relationships barring the relationship with my dom. Even that has been a part of it. We are in an LDR and not having a sex drive has let me stay in a mental place where an LDR satisfies me even when it shouldn't.Does that make sense?I feel like I deserve and should be in a real relationship, but having a libido buried in the cold cold ground permits me to avoid the whole mess of 'meeting someone' etc. I know I should be out there and meeting people, starting my life again but where is the point when sex is really just a concept?

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RE: SSRI side effects---I hope??? - 12/14/2007 5:40:05 PM   
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Side effects of SSRIs include decreased libido and ejaculatory delay.  Some are worse than others and we all react differently to any given medication.  I agree that you should bring it to your doctor's attention and of course do not suddenly stop taking your medication. 
 
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Yes,not taking medication by forgetting it has some interesting effects,I feel alive for a while till I remember I forgot to take the meds.

The start back on them is always arduous.I find memory loss a problem with the meds, I was so good before them.


(Sorry I don't have the patience or want to read this entire thing so it's likely I'll say something that has already been stated by another)
That being said, =P, Numero Uno it's important not to fuck around with your medication like that. Take it or leave it!! I have been on and off of anti-depressants and anxiety medication since 14. Although I am still young now, I'm experienced in this aspect nearly a decade. I have gone off of them plenty of times and even though I have "weaned" myself off on most occasions, it's still not a healthy thing to do. I have had very bad experiences and probably even some psychosis I'm afraid to face. Either you are that new to them, or subconsciously you "forget" to take them because you're iffy as to whether you really want to be on them or not.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to google the current medication and find out if there are known side effects such as the ones you're concerned about. Most medications for mental health do have sexual side effects. It's more direct and promising to search the world wide web for the exact things you are looking for than consulting a BDSM message board.
Perhaps some of the things you used to enjoy weren't copacetic and now that your brain is adjusting to normality it's doing you a favor..

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RE: SSRI side effects---I hope??? - 12/15/2007 2:53:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		This is the first time that I've ever told anyone, everyone, other than my immediate lovers that I use penile injections to maintain a good, firm, long-lasting erection.
The reasons I'm posting this thread is because of the scope of help out there, other than oral, mind and body engulfing drugs.
  In 1987, just months after having my first son,  I was it was raining, and  I had deliveries to make. I  never made it out of T.O.   My motorcycle swerved to avoid an old lady crossing  Bloor St. And I could'nt stop in time...and long story short, I slid into an oncoming car, feet first and slammed my spine together and broke my legs, paralyzing myself from the waist down.
When I came to the next day, the Drs were trying to tell me that I had done some serious damage to my back, and that I'd probably never walk again...I just laughed, and sunk into that wonderful/horrible morphine high that only lasted a few days...
Every day my friends showed up with hash to keep my spirits up and the pain down.
But I was what I was, numb from the waist down. As the days turned into weeks, the Drs began to lose hope when all of a sudden, one morning...I awoke with a mornin' woody! I buzzed to the nurses to come and see! They called in the Drs right away, and a new chapter in my rehab began, to get me up on my feet, and back in the saddle.
Now there are many things that we take for granted, being the Master of your Domain one of them, as is being the most exalted potentate of love the other.
For me any ways...Being lucky enough to have had quite a few aids/hiv free years to fuck and suck freely, Losing my lovely hard cock was very difficult to handle, to say the least.
I was totally out of commission for almost two years, and after that, I had to relearn what it had taken me a lifetime to master, and this time, My body wasn't co-operating.
I tried everything out there...and when Viagra came out, I thought, "yahoo!, all my troubles would be over!" But they weren't.
I found that the pills, when they work, do a good job, but not reliable enough to stake a reputation on it.Not enough to feel secure, nor even able at times.
So when my Dr asked me if I wanted to join a sexual response clinic in Kingston, Ontario, I jumped at the chance.
Well...they poked and pricked and prodded me in very alien ways that almost had me on the edge a couple of times, and then they brought out the needles.
The medicine is just called Triple Mix, but it is a combination of Prostin, phentolamine, and papaverine 3. I use the smallest insulin syringe,1cc,with a short needle, and I dare say, I truly, rarely feel a thing.
And Man is it worth it. I can now stay hard for as long as I want to, but If I want to, or need to stop, I just think about something else for awhile, or watch TV, or somethin'
These injections, I know, while being a great source of humour, are a gift to me, and to all the lovers I have had, and will have.
I was too young to hang up my trojans...
I use the needles once and throw them away. I never share works. I find that because this medicine stays in your dick til you pee, then it's gone, it works great for MMDA,acid, blow, anything. I'm the one now who can always get it up and keep it there for as long as needed.
I hope this thread is within the "guidelines". I wouldn't want to offend any body here...but if you need to, or want to see the magic at work, go to Bluelight.com.and under men's sexual photos, you'll see mine, under the heading..."rabnbadfish" and see for yer self, but try to be kinder than those stoners were,eh?
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My pic's are up, so see for your selves...
Yes I do have feeling in my penis. It's not the same as it was...I can have eye-rolling, mind-fucking orgasams, and at times, I can't control my ejaculation reflex, and come involuntarily. Like looking at porn, or even at a porn shop...it has been interesting...
But I can come, and the taste is sweeter than before...I've also had a vasectomy.
I havn't had any side effects except for sore back muscles from too much fucking, and I have to keep an eye out and rotate my injection sites, so I don't build up scar tissue. And in ten years plus in using, I can say, I beleive this is a safe method of
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It took me over two and a half years to "learn" how to walk again, and now I use a cane always, but a life without.controling your own penis, Man, until the choice arises in your life to never satisfy a woman, or feel the amazing tightness and wetness of a pussy again some of you'll never get it. It's so much more than sex, or even libido...
How many pussy's have you loved? until you can truly state that you can live as a priest(not a pedophile one), then you can't say shit to me about the drastic steps that I decided to take in my life. Dig?

I use a Tripe mix that's available only at one pharm. inT.O. and I only inject .20cc
It's very little compared to most of the guys who use it.
It also has Prostin 0.1mg(as it's first ingredient), then Phentolamine 10mg, and then, Papaverine 3mg's.     rabnbadfish
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Now I'm done.
I think this guy's pretty cool. He said he learned to walk again and it took couple years. Obviously he won't be able to run and is walking with a cane now. It's not like he has a choice of walking better or being able to have sex, he can walk AND have awesome sex, more power to him. Alsthough I, myself don't have a problem with getting erections, every now and again, for the weekend, I take around 10mg Tadalafil and have the best sex marathon ever so I can see where this dude's coming from.
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RE: SSRI side effects---I hope??? - 12/15/2007 3:01:19 AM   
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Thank you for your patience and humour, and I hope that the message isn't lost in there.
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RE: SSRI side effects---I hope??? - 12/16/2007 5:49:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		DaddyDeerest I can't even imagine going through all of that. I'm glad you've made it to the other side and are back to being erm... Master of your Domain . Personally I don't think I would be brave enough to go through the testing and trials that you did, I really am happy for you that things are working again. And that one time big O may have been a fluke for me.. cuz it hasn't happened again. Someone posted somewhere that 'if you don't use it you lose it'. I don't know if that is true, I hope it isn't. I hope that despite 'not using it' for so long it is not permanently lost. I used to have an amazing sex drive but now it's like there is nothing that causes arousal. That twinge of things heating up and the body beginning to respond. If it hasn't changed by the new year I will be talking to my doctor in more explicit terms no matter the discomfort it causes me!

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RE: SSRI side effects---I hope??? - 12/16/2007 8:11:11 AM   
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Possible the meds caused the lack of interest.... then the lack of activity caused a decrease in the hormones that cause/help arousal. Perhaps it would be good for you to "force the issue" a few times by yourself. That might get things working again, remind yourself what you like, and let your "whore-moans" rage again. :)
Working through it by yourself should take away any performance anxiety that you might have.
Some guys have a saying about masturbation...." cum, bleed or blister...but SOMETHING is gonna happen!"

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