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RE: A challenging submissive - 8/7/2005 8:43:00 AM

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This is all so interesting. My Dom is quite playful and loves to tease me because i so easily fall into traps. oops here comes another mark!

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RE: A challenging submissive - 8/7/2005 4:09:27 PM

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I think that a bottom knows damn well what they are doing when they act bratty and they know the types of punishments that will be doled out for it. Our sub likes the spankings and punishments that she recieves, so ofcourse she will push her bounds whenever she wants some "attention", but by the same token she never gets too out of line. That could mean the end of our relationship, and that punishment is no good for anyone. And I see nothing wrong with wanting to be taken, just be careful how you get into those situations with. Always be safe.

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RE: A challenging submissive - 11/11/2008 9:54:14 PM

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ORIGINAL: DesiredLamb
what makes a Master /Dom happier?

*sigh*

Well, I guess that would kind of depend on WHO the master/dom is and what that individual person wants in a sub.

Why do we keep trying to classify the sexual roles of the varying types of "tops" and "bottoms" into broad generalities? Why does it seem that many of us are incapable of accepting that seeking a partner on a kink-oriented dating site is like seeking a partner anywhere else?

Or am I way off, and many of us aren't seeking long term relationships (friendships, lovers, spouses, whatever), but only seeking an actor in the Great Play that is their life?

Here's a question for y'all... okay, here's a NON-RHETORICAL question for y'all. Is there some setting I've missed to indicate in one's profile that one is a particular type of sub/dom(whatever)? Personally, I'm a brat. I challenge. I fight. I resist. My husband loves that, it works for us, and it works well.

One of the reasons it works well is my ability to recognize that sometimes he's just not in the fuckin' mood, and he needs me to bring him his coffee, his scotch, a cigar, grab a cushion to kneel on next to him, and massage his feet. Because he's an... individual... person. With moods. And a broad range of desires, wants, tastes, and needs. My service to him is not to be an icon or an ideal or a sub or a brat or give great blowjobs or be sexually available at the drop of a hat. My service to him is to pay attention to him. His facial expressions, his body language, his tone. When he comes home from work, I can tell what mood he's in. Instantly. It's not difficult.

Is he trudging in and slouching, or is there a bounce in his step? Is his face controlled and formal, or more relaxed? Are there dark circles under his eyes and he's wincing? (In which case I get up, turn off anything making noise, turn off half the lights, and get him coffee and a percocet, and break out his migraine diary to note the date, the weather, and if there were any chemical odors in the hallway). Is he listening to his iPod as he comes in the door? If he is, can I hear it from across the room? Is it playing techno music or the Battlestar Galactica soundtrack? (If so, I'd better turn off the phone for a few hours, 'cause I'll be... busy!).

Each individual person has their own tastes. Each pair of people has their own chemistry and dynamic.

Trying to ask what a dom or sub wants is... pretty futile.

Just like the rest of the world, we're individuals first.

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RE: A challenging submissive - 11/11/2008 10:35:55 PM

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nothing wrong with wanting force. in past relationships, i've loved the times when i'd get taken down no matter how hard i tried to fight back. of course, this isn't something that would happen out of the blue...sometimes it would be a certain dress or article of clothing i'd have on to let him know my needs and desires, it was pre-negotiated. it was always done respectfully on my part, and it was always very successful in what the needs and intentions were, for both parties.

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RE: A challenging submissive - 11/11/2008 11:17:35 PM

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Grammar makes me happy.

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RE: A challenging submissive - 11/12/2008 1:38:38 AM

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i wonder if when a girl talks to her master and sets up a signal to let him know she is in the mood to be taken and so then when she gives that signal he on his own choses when to "slave rape" her if that would not be considered acceptable.

i am bi polar and when in a high manic can become teasing, like to play games, as a master he will catch the manic more so than i will. i was wondering if that could not be used as a way of saying when i am in a high manic make the play more rough and different, as the slave is more willing to experience things then and is quite horny at this time or at least i am lol.

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RE: A challenging submissive - 11/12/2008 5:36:40 PM

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I absolutely love to do this to Daddy. In fact, I did it just last night! We were in the living room w/fam and he told me to watch my mouth and I said, "What are you going to do about it?," with a smile of course. He grinned and proceeded to tell me I better watch myself or I would be in trouble. So, I pushed harder, giggled a little with an impish grin and ended up being pulled up by the arm and taken to the bedroom, "To be punished!" Yes, mission accomplished! Daddy is most receptive when I do this, he especially likes it when I get froggy in public where he isn't able to take immediate action. He makes it so much more intense by reminding me with a whisper or just a look, that I am in for it when I get home, so I get to stress, wondering what he'll do. I am never disappointed with his reaction.
Granted, we have been together so long that we know what the other is thinking, just by the look on the face. I certainly know when it is acceptable and when it isn't. It is all about knowing how far you can safely go.

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RE: A challenging submissive - 11/12/2008 7:24:44 PM

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All I can say about this is I'm surprised that my little girl is able to sit properly right as of right now. *grins* Knows how red her bottom was last night. I could have sworn that I left some bite marks on her shoulder and else where.

Oh....yes My baby girl likes to take the a chance at the opportunity to have her bottom spanked and have that rosy red color. She'll take every chance that she can when the children are around to keep her from getting an immediate short punishment. So, she takes those times where she feels froggy. When she is feeling froggy I will allude to what might or might not happen, just to watch her squirm on the love seat. That's just what I tend to do, but I would like to know what others do to their sub when they feel froggy?

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RE: A challenging submissive - 11/13/2008 11:28:51 AM

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mmmm yes i am like that all the way

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RE: A challenging submissive - 11/13/2008 11:40:24 AM

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If the tease and disobey is part of your dynamic then great. If it is not, then it is manipulation. I had a slave like that once and since she was doing it to gain attention when she wanted it, I found isolation was a good remedy to her manipulations. I prefer a more direct method of communication from my slaves, such as begging to be used hard and such. Often they do not need to beg for it, as I take what I want often and seductions include bonds and a whip or crop usually.

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ORIGINAL: DesiredLamb

i, myself find that i like to tease and disobey just to get reaction from a Master/Dom. i do not enjoy the pain aspect but desire the 'rape' scenerio. the being forced or taken sexually. i like to be seduced . then run and be taken. then all of my animal comes forth..... verbal and submissive..... hot and ready to serve. how do U feel about this? what makes a Master /Dom happier? it would only be in the beginning......... 'a capture' if u will............................

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RE: A challenging submissive - 11/13/2008 9:58:05 PM

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I have a 'lil miss S.A.S.sy pants part of my personality'. She is playful and mischievous and ... spirited. Sir loves that part of me. She doesn't misbehave per se, but she does push the envelope a tad. But when Sir requests/orders/suggests something she obeys period. Unless of course he says :"resist". Then wohoo! It's on like Donkey Kong!

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RE: A challenging submissive - 11/14/2008 10:20:27 AM

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ORIGINAL: IronBear
To my mind a really smart girl has learned the subtleties of her Dom so she can judge the right moments when this sort of play is appropriate.

20 points.

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RE: A challenging submissive - 11/14/2008 10:25:45 AM

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There is a difference between enjoying force play mixed with lighthearted teasing games and a sub being intentionally snippy or feisty for the sake of eliciting a result they want. Part of me, frankly, finds it offensive. If my sub/slave would like something, trying to lure me into it by subterfuge rather than respectful request (since it is my motivations that will guide its conclusion) will certainly not yield a reaction they will enjoy at all.

This is not to say that playfulness is to be discouraged...but covert manipulation does not strike me as a redeeming quality for a sub/slave that I would contentedly trustful of.

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RE: A challenging submissive - 11/14/2008 11:28:33 AM

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It depends on the Dom really.

Personally, that's just what I'm looking for; someone who's just a little disobediant, but in a minor way, such as "forgetting" to take out the trash - it's something that can be fixed in seconds, isn't important, but totally punishable.

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RE: A challenging submissive - 11/14/2008 11:48:34 AM

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i find that when i challenge Master it does not go well. He has control and gets upset when i am a brat about what he has asked me to do. i try to be a good little slave and do as i'm told...Master has indicated that at some point soon, i will come home and may be kidnapped by him and taken by force to a cabin and used against my will :)

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RE: A challenging submissive - 11/15/2008 6:42:46 AM

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One word.... COMMUNICATION!

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