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RE: Starting a Poly household when there is already one... - 11/14/2007 9:49:06 PM

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The issue isn't you leaving or not- that's your choice. I think it's a stupid choice, but it's yours to make. The issue is that you decide to hate someone for doing nothing wrong to you as a displacement for the hate towards the person who actually DID something very wrong to you.

As Aquatic said- why do you hate the cookie and not the man who promised not to eat the cookies?

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RE: Starting a Poly household when there is already one... - 11/15/2007 12:27:48 AM

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Uhh... or rather, accept that your master has a cookie. Just get over it, if you're not leaving, and He won't compromise about this. Find something you like about this woman, and stop adding unnecessary stress on your Master. Who knows, maybe once you get your head out of the ground you'll find something in common with her, and find a reason he likes her as well.

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RE: Starting a Poly household when there is already one... - 11/15/2007 7:38:50 AM

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If i may say some thing here I'm a Master of a poly life and I have to say that it is a Master that should think and care for all in he's house they're feeling as well as they care and love ! If he don't know Matter if your a slave are a subs if you not happy serving him then he will not be happy with you .
but i have been here some time and have seen a lot of fakes sorry to say on both ends sub,slaves, and dom also and a lot of Africa jokers

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RE: Starting a Poly household when there is already one... - 11/15/2007 8:39:08 AM

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well then please explain to me miss know it all just how am i supposed to stop him from tasting the 'cookies' as you said. I am not giving him up so dont even suggest that . I bet if your master did the same thing you wouldnt give him up if you didnt want to be poly. As for the JerrySpringer wisecrack...That might be what you watch on tv every chance you get, and it might be where you feel most comfortable airing your differences ( you might even have had family there at one time , i dont know as i dont watch that trash) but it isnt a place where I want to be, but you go ahead.

Threatening to beat up the other women while adoring the man who is causing the problem is pretty standard fodder for Springer and Judge Judy. And it's pretty childish.

If Valyraen broke his word to me regarding something so fundemental to our relationship, I might stay with him. But only after telling him that if he didn't shape up, I would leave and him shaping up. I don't need someone who thinks so little of his word that he breaks it so lightly and cares so little about my feelings. I just don't.

If you don't want to leave, that is fine. But you are going to have to come to terms with the fact that you are not the only flavor of cookie he wants and that he is willing to lie to you and break his word to you to get the other cookies. Unless you are willing to leave, he doesn't need to change because he has exactly what he wants and he even has you thinking that he isn't the problem. Getting mad at the cookies and threatening them may chase off one or two, but that isn't going to help. Once you get rid of them he is just going to find more.

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RE: Starting a Poly household when there is already one... - 11/15/2007 5:27:31 PM

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well then please explain to me miss know it all just how am i supposed to stop him from tasting the 'cookies' as you said. I am not giving him up so dont even suggest that . I bet if your master did the same thing you wouldnt give him up if you didnt want to be poly. As for the JerrySpringer wisecrack...That might be what you watch on tv every chance you get, and it might be where you feel most comfortable airing your differences ( you might even have had family there at one time , i dont know as i dont watch that trash) but it isnt a place where I want to be, but you go ahead.

What youre failing to see, is that this man is going to do what he wants. It's not in your power to chase away every woman he tries to snare. In fact, it's hardly the woman's fault she was approached. If he matters this much to you, you need to sit down with him and draw boundaries. If he refuses to meet your boundaries, I'd say you have a pretty incompatible relationship. If you think the only way you can prevent him from being with other women, is to threaten or attack them, sooner or later you're going to find yourself dealing with a judge who isn't on television, and the cuffs aren't fuzzy.

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RE: Starting a Poly household when there is already one... - 11/15/2007 5:41:40 PM

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Stephann, Aquatic, you have shared some insightful points with lil miss babycake. Unfortunately, it is blatantly obvious that she has a certain lack of maturity. I don't have patience for a girl like that, but somehow this guy does. Or perhaps he doesn't, and is seeking a grown-up for his second... Hmm, food for thought.

(Of course I'm not siding with someone who breaks trust, but if I was involved with this girl, it wouldn't be for long. Subs and slaves aren't the only ones with feet.)

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RE: Starting a Poly household when there is already one... - 11/15/2007 6:25:36 PM

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Indeed Lady Seraphina; when I throw in my two bits, often it's just grandstanding on my part, with no real expectation of an impact on the target.

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RE: Starting a Poly household when there is already one... - 11/16/2007 12:22:15 AM

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the person is only a slave in the context of the relationship. She is still an independent human in every other way and she should embrace that. Really, its their choice, but i am an overly logical person. I would never allow a poly situation i didnt agree to.

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RE: Starting a Poly household when there is already one... - 11/16/2007 2:22:00 AM

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By the way, to all those people that posted here. I am NOT a slave, I am a SUB. I NEVER wanted to be part of a poly household! When Master Jess told me he was looking for a 24/7 I thought I would be the one.Unfortunatly for me I have grown to love him very much.I absolutely hate the woman that he is 'training' right now , but fortunatly for her I have never seen her in person.

you say that you "NEVER wanted to be part of a poly household", but never said whether or not you knew He WAS poly. If you didn't know, then i feel it was wrong of Him to not tell you. If you DID know, then you probably should have discussed it instead of wishing and hoping and looking the other way.

When i read (on someone's reply, i think) that He was doing this behind your back, i wondered why a "Master" would feel a need to hide ANYTHING from you, but now, in your post, you say that He DID tell you - you DID know.

Have you discussed going 24/7 with Him? Does He know you want this?

i am in a poly relationship, and really wouldn't want it any other way!

Good luck to you.

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RE: Starting a Poly household when there is already one... - 11/16/2007 2:53:14 AM

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Since the Master in question isn't going to change and since the Master in question probably knows ALL about the drama i'm guessing there's a match made in heaven...Some people just have to have drama in their lives.

It's this kind of senario that has kept me FAR FAR away from "poly" households.

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RE: Starting a Poly household when there is already one... - 11/16/2007 7:55:39 AM

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Quick reply.... Is it just me or does anybody else think useme and babycakes are like the same person? Very similar profiles and this babycakes person was created this month, and she just HAPPENED to stumble upon this thread, sounding ignorant and childish? hmmmm.. interesting.

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RE: Starting a Poly household when there is already one... - 11/16/2007 8:01:52 AM

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I'm betting she called him and told him this crazy bitch called her up threatening her and he then told her that you were an ex who is stalking him.

He likes this kind of cat fight, it feeds his ego, both of you pleading with him to stay with him. And from what I've seen they all deserve each other.

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RE: Starting a Poly household when there is already one... - 11/16/2007 9:26:20 PM

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Uhh... or rather, accept that your master has a cookie. Just get over it, if you're not leaving, and He won't compromise about this. Find something you like about this woman, and stop adding unnecessary stress on your Master. Who knows, maybe once you get your head out of the ground you'll find something in common with her, and find a reason he likes her as well.

I couldnt care less what i have in common with her. I refuse to accept this crap! I was here first and ill be damned if i let some other woman come into MY life and destroy everything I have worked so hard for

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I didnt post this thread in the first place so just fucking stop attacking me you self righteous know it all ! and that goes double for Lucky Albatross!!

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RE: Starting a Poly household when there is already one... - 11/16/2007 9:32:17 PM

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Threatening to beat up the other women while adoring the man who is causing the problem is pretty standard fodder for Springer and Judge Judy. And it's pretty childish.

If Valyraen broke his word to me regarding something so fundemental to our relationship, I might stay with him. But only after telling him that if he didn't shape up, I would leave and him shaping up. I don't need someone who thinks so little of his word that he breaks it so lightly and cares so little about my feelings. I just don't.

If you don't want to leave, that is fine. But you are going to have to come to terms with the fact that you are not the only flavor of cookie he wants and that he is willing to lie to you and break his word to you to get the other cookies. Unless you are willing to leave, he doesn't need to change because he has exactly what he wants and he even has you thinking that he isn't the problem. Getting mad at the cookies and threatening them may chase off one or two, but that isn't going to help. Once you get rid of them he is just going to find more.

I NEVER said anything about beating her up , that was all in your head! What is wrong with you ??? She is not a cookie she is a human being another woman that is trying to take something I have worked very hard to keep! NO matter what you say -even though it is not your dang business in the first place- I hate the hell out of her! She calls me in the middle of the night to tell me how much she enjoyed sucking him and how she just loves it when she wakes up in his arms!!! Go play with yourself and leave me the hell alone!!!! I DID NOT ASK FOR THIS TJREAD TO BE POSTED YOU TWIT!!!!!!! YOU ARE DEFENDING SOMEONE YOU HAVE NOT EVEN MET AND HAVE NO IDEA WHO SHE IS. HEAVEN FORBID YOU WOULD MAYBE THINK ABOUT WHAT I AM GOING THRU , I AM ACTUALLY HERE! GET A LIFE!!!!!!

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RE: Starting a Poly household when there is already one... - 11/16/2007 9:40:21 PM

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Quick reply.... Is it just me or does anybody else think useme and babycakes are like the same person? Very similar profiles and this babycakes person was created this month, and she just HAPPENED to stumble upon this thread, sounding ignorant and childish? hmmmm.. interesting.

Sorry to burst your bubble , but I just got on here this month because I never heard of this site before Master Jess told me about it. I am sure if you look you will see that my profile is not like hers at all . Ever since I have had a profile here I have frequented the boards, I didnt just happen to find this one , it was in big bold letters under poly - and it seemed to be what I was going thru so I read it. Useme WANTS a poly home I do not! what is the same about that? I am sure it made you feel like an adult to call me childish ... I dont happen to think anger is childish.

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RE: Starting a Poly household when there is already one... - 11/16/2007 9:41:56 PM

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I'm betting she called him and told him this crazy bitch called her up threatening her and he then told her that you were an ex who is stalking him.

He likes this kind of cat fight, it feeds his ego, both of you pleading with him to stay with him. And from what I've seen they all deserve each other.

I have not threatened her or anyone!

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RE: Starting a Poly household when there is already one... - 11/16/2007 9:45:56 PM

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you say that you "NEVER wanted to be part of a poly household", but never said whether or not you knew He WAS poly. If you didn't know, then i feel it was wrong of Him to not tell you. If you DID know, then you probably should have discussed it instead of wishing and hoping and looking the other way.

When i read (on someone's reply, i think) that He was doing this behind your back, i wondered why a "Master" would feel a need to hide ANYTHING from you, but now, in your post, you say that He DID tell you - you DID know.

Have you discussed going 24/7 with Him? Does He know you want this?

i am in a poly relationship, and really wouldn't want it any other way!

Good luck to you.

I did not know he wanted this at all and yes he does know that i want to be his 24/7, but my kids are young and even though he gets along with them very well he doesnt want to interfere with my raising of them.
Thank you very much for your post, I personally do not know how you share your man with another woman. I can not do it.

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RE: Starting a Poly household when there is already one... - 11/16/2007 9:51:16 PM

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well then please explain to me miss know it all just how am i supposed to stop him from tasting the 'cookies' as you said. I am not giving him up so dont even suggest that . I bet if your master did the same thing you wouldnt give him up if you didnt want to be poly. As for the JerrySpringer wisecrack...That might be what you watch on tv every chance you get, and it might be where you feel most comfortable airing your differences ( you might even have had family there at one time , i dont know as i dont watch that trash) but it isnt a place where I want to be, but you go ahead.

What youre failing to see, is that this man is going to do what he wants. It's not in your power to chase away every woman he tries to snare. In fact, it's hardly the woman's fault she was approached. If he matters this much to you, you need to sit down with him and draw boundaries. If he refuses to meet your boundaries, I'd say you have a pretty incompatible relationship. If you think the only way you can prevent him from being with other women, is to threaten or attack them, sooner or later you're going to find yourself dealing with a judge who isn't on television, and the cuffs aren't fuzzy.

Stephan

WHY DOES EVERYONE THINK I HAVE ATTAACKED THIS WOMAN ??? I HAVE NEITHER THREATENED OR ATTACKED HER! SHE , HOWEVER HAS THREATENED ME. WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS I HATE HER. WHETHER OR NOT YOU THINK I HAVE MATURITY IS YOUR OPINION, I HAVE A RIGHT TO MY FEELINGS WHETHER YOU LIKE THEM OR NOT, I DID NOT START THIS THREAD!

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RE: Starting a Poly household when there is already one... - 11/16/2007 10:27:32 PM

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, I personally do not know how you share your man with another woman. I can not do it. [/quote]

I feel for you. I am sub, but not slave. I would love to have a Master that we could play with a girl on occasion but i do not want to be in a poly relationship. To me its important to be a priority. Thats just me. There are some that have beautiful poly relationships and everyone is in love. Thats how a poly household should operate. Everyone should be compatible.

LA and Aqautic can be pretty rough and tumble. They are blatantly honest to the point of painful. But you say you can not share. So you have some decisions to make. You say you wont leave. I know it would be hard. You have to either find a way to make this ok for yourself or you have to leave. You are not going to change this man. Its you who are going to have to change. Strong enough to leave, or strong enough to get a new perspective.

Either way I will pray for your well being.

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RE: Starting a Poly household when there is already one... - 11/16/2007 11:01:45 PM

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Actually I think Aquatic has been far more vocal and pointed than I have in this particular thread. I completely agree and support her of course, but she's been the one saying it :)

The point remains- why are you upset at her for trying to "take something" rather than the one who willingly wants to be taken? Why are you upset at her (even if she is trying to be manipulative) rather than upset with your master who chooses to be with someone who would be so manipulative? Why are you upset with her at sucking his cock but not upset with him for choosing another to suck his cock?

You say she is ruining what you worked so hard for- she can't do anything without his consent and willing cooperation.

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