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Healthcare concerns - 11/13/2007 8:35:48 PM   
KinkyRN


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I'm a Nursing student interested in learning about concerns that the BDSM community might have related to health and healthcare. I know there have been a few discussions about "coming out" to your health care provider, so I'm not looking to necessarily duplicate those.  --But if you have any other concerns that you'd like to share, or stories about specific times you've had to seek healthcare (or avoided seeking healthcare) related to participation in BDSM practices, I'd love to hear 'em!   Feel free to privately message me, too.  Thanks!!  




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RE: Healthcare concerns - 11/17/2007 10:16:34 AM   
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Perhaps the reasson for lack of response is we are not quite sure what you are after here.

I and some others do avoid going to the doctor uness something is really wrong. Bad wrong. I don't do this because of BDSM, I just do this because I believe the body needs to learn to fight it's own fights. As a result I have a superior immune system and healing capabilities.

However that is not what you asked. The possible scenarios are varied, but what if you get sick and have a bunch of marks on your body ? What if a scene goes too far and someone is unconcious, or some form of bondage equipment broke and they wound up with a concussion from hitting the floor ?

I am surprised nobody has picked up on this thread, because some of these people play hard. This also involves legal and moral issues at times. If someone gets hurt to the point of needing medical attention, I don't mean a cut or a bruise, hopefully all parties involved would be sensible. I don't go to doctors for sickness, for one I rarely get sick and I don't stay sick long. But if I needed stitches or got shot, and both have happened, I would be sensible.

I don't know if you got into the thread where somebody wanted to be anesthetised and whipped, to wake up and find the results. We talked them out of it. Anesthesiology is not simple like making toast.

Then there is the thread about hypoglycemia. What if you have someone tied up and your blood sugar drops too low ? They can't help you if you pass out. You are most likely in a room with the door locked.

There are many issues, I'm just not sure of which issues you meant.

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RE: Healthcare concerns - 11/17/2007 3:42:10 PM   
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Thanks, Termyn8or, for your response.  I realize my opening thread is pretty vague and open-ended!  The scenarios you mentioned are the kinds of things I've been pondering about...

I guess my personal interest lies in increasing communication and awareness about the BDSM community and lifestyle to healthcare professionals.  I worry that some healthcare professionals may be quick to judge those of us in the lifestyle.  I realize this is not always the case, and many providers are non-judgmental and open-minded.  However, I wonder if fear of being judged may keep some individuals from going to their doctor, or going to the hospital, until something really serious happens.  Also, I know many individuals have questions they'd like to ask their health care providers, but may keep silent due to fear of being judged or labeled.  The legal issues and mandatory reporting laws connected with abuse make the issue even more complex for many in the community.
                                                      
Again-- I know this isn't always the case-- maybe your lifestyle doesn't ever impact your healthcare, or maybe you have a great relationship with your doctor  and can ask them anything. 

But I'm just interested in finding out if members of the community have ever avoided going to their doctor, or the hospital, due to their lifestyle,  I'm also interested to know if anyone has had any negative experiences with healthcare providers, or if they've had any medical emergencies come up during a scene.

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RE: Healthcare concerns - 11/18/2007 10:26:29 AM   
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Recently they ran a thing on the news about people calling 911 for all kinds of things, like a splinter, etc., and then there are people on the opposite end of the spectrum. Regardless of lifestyle, some of us won't go to a doctor until we think we are going to die.

However, I hope a professional would handle it properly. Just like a lawyer who knows you're guilty, yet does everything in his power to get you off the hook. That's his job. Unfortunately it is the prosecutor's job to convict, whether the defendant is guilty or not, whether he knows it or not. One would hope a doctor would be at least as professional.

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RE: Healthcare concerns - 11/18/2007 4:21:52 PM   
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When it comes to health care, treatment, Health Ins, Life Ins, and or any other coverage, it's none of there business of what goes on in my bedroom.

Should I seek medical treatment for an accidental burn, bruise, cut, shock, or anything else, I'll say it was an accident. I'll make up a belivable story of how it was an accident and nothing was intentinal. My BDSM and Sex life will never be known to my policy agents. Self inflections or allowing someone to inflict pain will not be said on any reports. 

Either way, being into BDSM could classify you as Stunt Person. Stunt Artist have coverage. But under our policies, there's no mentioning of increased premiums due to stunts or self inflictions. We're in good hands. 

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RE: Healthcare concerns - 11/20/2007 3:40:19 PM   
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Personally I like the shocked look on my Doctors face when he asked me one time how my girlfriend and I are doing. It shocked him to no end when I told him what we were doing and that she was at home in a cage with a butt plug in and nipple clamps on. And that when I got home I was going to set her on fire and suspend her from the rafters with dental floss but only after I had placed 200 needles in her body and tied the dental floss to them so I could hoist her up with it.
    At the time he thought I was kidding until i went into further detail and then he was ready to call the cops. Then i had to explain to him about the lifestyle. It helped hat he had a appointment with her the next day and he had to ask her about all of this.
\     He was more amazed when she came in the next day ready for her physical with the specliam already inside of her and opened just enough so they wouldnt fall out. Thats when he stoped asking us questions about how eachother were doing and started counting his office supplies before we left the office. LOL He didnt like the fact that I realy liked his exam table and told him i would love to have it at my house. That was a bit over the top for him.

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RE: Healthcare concerns - 11/20/2007 4:48:38 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet

When it comes to health care, treatment, Health Ins, Life Ins, and or any other coverage, it's none of there business of what goes on in my bedroom.

Should I seek medical treatment for an accidental burn, bruise, cut, shock, or anything else, I'll say it was an accident. I'll make up a belivable story of how it was an accident and nothing was intentinal. My BDSM and Sex life will never be known to my policy agents. Self inflections or allowing someone to inflict pain will not be said on any reports. 

Either way, being into BDSM could classify you as Stunt Person. Stunt Artist have coverage. But under our policies, there's no mentioning of increased premiums due to stunts or self inflictions. We're in good hands. 
 Maybe it is different for a male, but too many times when a female is bruised an explanation is not taken at face value. It has happened to me, not a bdsm injury but a 'I actually ran into a door injury'. One nurse was brought in, then a different nurse, then a different doctor all trying to find out the 'truth'. Assuring me that it isn't my fault if I'm being hurt etc. Offering a social worker and a card for a womens shelter. Argh. It is exhausting and irritating. I understand abuse happens and that it is hard to admit for many. But dang it, it is not always abuse! Luckily (?) my health conditions bring about a certain amount of casual injury now, with proof.

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RE: Healthcare concerns - 11/21/2007 12:08:33 AM   
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greetings kinkyrn,

i have many health conditions that i am trying to learn how to manage better which means i spend a lot of time at the doctor's office. i think having a friendly bedside manner and just generally being open-minded and talkative are the best things - not freaking out when patients tell you weird stuff, and being open to talking about stuff that is going on besides health for them. being responsive to us lessens the feeling that you are judging us - and this goes for all sorts of issues, not just being kinky.

for me, because most of my problems are either chronic pain or mental, the few doctors who have reason to know about my bdsm activities get a little weirded out. my psychiatrist was convinced for awhile that i'm submissive because i was raped at 15 (except that i felt submissive long before i was ever raped) - i think she's over that now, though. one of my counselors used to say over and over again how the reason i'm in such a large age gap relationship is because i have daddy issues (i do have daddy issues, but i don't think the two are overtly related). the fact that i can be in ridiculous amounts of pain 24/7 and not like it, yet crave being flogged or caned, really weirds people out, too. i love marks, which is not conducive to doctors visits. he tries not to bruise me too much before i have to visit any doctors where i have to gown up, only because he doesn't want me to have to deal with the abuse allegations, etc. like camille mentioned.

i think a lot of it is just being willing to look beyond what YOUR personal associations with pain or kink or whatever are, and know that they're not your patient's associations. it's very hard for a lot of doctors to understand what i go through day in and day out because my situation is pretty unique in terms of what problems i have and their severity, and then on top of trying to get them to understand my condition and respect the fact that i actually HAVE tried pretty much everything they're suggesting as a quick fix, then trying to get them to understand that there are situations where i actually ENJOY pain and not judge that is really difficult. most of the time i don't bring it up except in mental health situations because it's more pertinent there, so thankfully i don't have to deal with it as much with my physical doctors.

another really random thing is also radiology technicians, etc...when getting exams like that, kink comes up in the oddest ways. i consider my piercings and body mods to be part of my kink, for me, at least, and i literally had to have ten minute discussions with like five different people at the radiologist's office over my nipple and hood piercings because, despite the fact that my piercer (who is an rn who has had mris with the same kind of jewelry in) and one of the radiology technicians said it would be fine, everyone looked at me like i was nuts when i said i had body jewelry in and wouldn't take it out. forget the fact that this was my third mri, or that i did my homework. not letting your mouth drop open with shock when youf ind out a patient has nipple piercings is always a good thing. and not treating your patients like they're idiots helps (although i can sympathize with the fact that some of us really ARE idiots and that might be difficult to deal with after awhile).

respectfully,
annabelle.


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