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sammiebabygirl -> Do You Practice What You Preach? (11/26/2007 4:54:41 PM)

Or do you live by, "do as I say and not as I do"?
 
As a Master/Dom, do you think it is important to model the behavior you expect from your sub?
 
jen



LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Do You Practice What You Preach? (11/26/2007 5:39:57 PM)

Nope.  I find it's important to model the values and expectations I hold important.  I also choose a partner who is compatible with those values, so often our behavior and values reflect from and towards eachother.

But we don't need to be identical and just because I suck at some things doesn't mean it's ok for him to suck at the same things and vice versa. 

Ds = double standard



SirJohnMandevill -> RE: Do You Practice What You Preach? (11/26/2007 5:46:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Nope.  I find it's important to model the values and expectations I hold important.  I also choose a partner who is compatible with those values, so often our behavior and values reflect from and towards eachother.



Well said! My previous partners and I have complemented each other, but we weren't clones.

Les (Purveyor of Fine Kinkiness since...well, for a long, long time)



Tigrita -> RE: Do You Practice What You Preach? (11/26/2007 6:15:55 PM)

I'd be pretty sad if my dominant modeled the behaviors he expected of me, like being desperately hungry for cock, wimpering, begging, showing fear and reverance to an intense stare or a hungry growl...

Hehe, I know that isn't what you meant ;)

I think like LA said, our values are compatible, we wouldn't be together otherwise.  I wouldn't be with someone who didn't at least try to practice what they preach, though no one is perfect.

As a switch, and alpha to the slave in our relationship, I believe it is important to practice what I preach, set a good example.  Though I could see that if there was something she's just much better at than me, I don't think it is unreasonable to encourage and expect her to maintain that, even if it isn't my forte (like being responsible about debt and car maintenance for example... [;)]   )



MadRabbit -> RE: Do You Practice What You Preach? (11/26/2007 6:19:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sammiebabygirl

Or do you live by, "do as I say and not as I do"?
 
As a Master/Dom, do you think it is important to model the behavior you expect from your sub?
 
jen


It's a great ideal to have, but pragmatically, expecting a dominant to do everything he/she wants you to do to the perfect T every single time and in every single situation is just setting you up for a lot of resentment and disapointment.




Estring -> RE: Do You Practice What You Preach? (11/26/2007 7:12:54 PM)

If you are talking about things such as honesty, loyalty, etc., by all means yes.



MrSpectacular -> RE: Do You Practice What You Preach? (11/26/2007 7:15:08 PM)

Always - you get out of life what you put in - the same goes for relationships 



Rushemery -> RE: Do You Practice What You Preach? (11/26/2007 7:18:30 PM)

yes



FrankAr -> RE: Do You Practice What You Preach? (11/26/2007 9:29:12 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sammiebabygirl

Or do you live by, "do as I say and not as I do"?
 
As a Master/Dom, do you think it is important to model the behavior you expect from your sub?
 
jen


Greetings jen,

I can only live by my high standards in life that I set for myself, and these are very high.  I also let the female know that I have only ONE life to live by, MINE, she has no life, she only does what I tell her to.  Do as I say, yes, do as I do, well she can't.    I just live by my standards, if she wants to try to live by them, so then we can go down the road, if she doesn't, then at least she KNOWS beforehand, she can then decide. 

Like others have informed you, people can only live by their own skin, why  would others try to live within that same skin.  Live in your own skin and be a ying yang to the other.

Be well.

Frank Ar.



HeavansKeeper -> RE: Do You Practice What You Preach? (11/26/2007 11:01:46 PM)

My Pet has to earn the privilege of being taught by example.  That said, if she reads over my journal she'll find the phrase "Master yourself. Master her."  It's my mantra.

My point is, I make sure she understands that she does not have the right to be taught by example, that it is a gift.  I can't recall a time when I've said "Do as I say, not as I do."



ownedgirlie -> RE: Do You Practice What You Preach? (11/26/2007 11:07:01 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sammiebabygirl

Or do you live by, "do as I say and not as I do"?
 
As a Master/Dom, do you think it is important to model the behavior you expect from your sub?
 
jen


What he expects from me is unique to my needs, growth, development, and service to him as a slave.  It would not make sense for my Master to model this behavior. 



Focus50 -> RE: Do You Practice What You Preach? (11/27/2007 3:30:38 AM)

On most things but not all.
 
As far as honesty, principles and sense of justice etc goes, yes, I like to lead by example.
 
As far as personal preferences go, those are *MINE* to choose.  For eg, around home casually dressed is me in shorts and T shirt; for the girl it's often a lot less or nothing at all. 
 
There *are* some perks for being in charge.... *wink*
 
Focus.



Vanatru -> RE: Do You Practice What You Preach? (11/27/2007 6:36:20 AM)

If anything, I am more critical of my own actions and words than of others. Setting up my own measuring stick of conduct was one of the first things I did growing up. As far as expected action, like ownedgirlie said, I and mine have complimentary positions.

Edit: if I'm not doing my part, how would I expect mine to do their part?



BOUNTYHUNTER -> RE: Do You Practice What You Preach? (11/27/2007 6:53:29 AM)

Yes jen I do practice what I preach for if I didn't it would be a bad example to mine......



MasterFireMaam -> RE: Do You Practice What You Preach? (11/27/2007 7:16:43 AM)

Someone I think is very wise once said, "You don't have to be perfect...you only have to be one step ahead of your slave." So, sometimes it's, "Don't do as I DID."

Master Fire



sammiebabygirl -> RE: Do You Practice What You Preach? (11/27/2007 11:15:13 AM)

Thanks for all the responses. I find them all very interesting.
 
The reason I asked is because I know myself and that I need consistency from a Dominant. Otherwise, I get mixed messages and have difficulty following directions.
 
jen



breatheasone -> RE: Do You Practice What You Preach? (11/27/2007 11:42:56 AM)

I didnt have to think very hard for an answer to this question.... The answer for me is no...I'm afraid I don't, not all the time...but I do try to improve where I can.



LadyHibiscus -> RE: Do You Practice What You Preach? (11/27/2007 12:35:40 PM)

I do see myself as a role model, and in terms of values, integrity, and personal behavior, I hold myself to a high standard.  I don't necessarily expect to have the same skill set as my submissives, but I don't get to be a hypocrite either.



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