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AMADF -> RELOCATING IMPLICATIONS (11/27/2007 2:11:07 PM)

During my life as a mistress i have had many offers of relocating to serve me on a 24-7 basis, this seems to be their dream, and maybe thats an option for those who havent found an owner in their own country or search very specific practices. I do beleave in relocating:  im in Mexico an next month my dutch sub will come to live with me.

But doing this is a BIG thing and a LOT of subs take this very light. How are you gonna support you while on there?, how are you gonna solved the inmigratrion issues? are you trying to live with someone that you dont really know? etc.

I have found slaves that say "i dont have money but will relocate. You can rent me as slave or will work 4 you to earn money" unless mistress is a pro mistress, have a store, factory or her own business, this is not possible. For instance im a teacher at at university and cannot hire him for anything. Their dream is to serve, thats why they want, but then they expect mistress support them so they can serve?. Call me and old fashion girl but the idea of paying everithing just 4him 4serve me its not my idea of dominantion. What they are really saying is "take me out from my place, and finaciate me so i can do my dream".

If slave has an on line job he still can do it from other country, or if like my slave he has a retiremente pension for the rest of his life, then he can go anywere. But if try tofind a job, this must be done with anticipation, finding a job for foreighners in some countryes is VERY difficult.

If you move to other state in same country or country communities (like european community) thats easy, but if youre trying to move outside then have to deal with migration. You cant just live illegally forever in same country. Also have to ask yourself also about the languaje.. do you even speak the languaje of where youre willing to live?

Then some of this crazy slaves just assume that because youre a mistress and they are subs that means its a perfect match. Living with someone in a 24-7 also means that youre spending also REAL LIFE time togeather since no one can play all day. So why do you think mistress without knowing you will say: "yes take a plane and come to live with me tmrrw"?. Will you say yes if suddenly a girl you dont know calls you at home and say" hey give me your home adress, cause tomorrow i arrive and live with  you forever".

You also have to consider, where do you suppose to live? do you expect 2sleep on same bedroom as her?, does she expect the same?  is the place that she lives in right now has enough privacy and space for bdsm? do they need another apptment/house? whos paying for it? who will do housekeeping at home? does she has to apport all the toys furnature you´re gonna need for a 24-7?

I beleave in relocating, but only as a well asumed process. In my case in dec he will finally relocate 2me, for us it take around 2 years of living togeather each summer and chrismast, arrange bank issues, migration issues, renting a new appaytment and be completely sure that we want this. I dont regret this, cause its a delicate issue that slave leaves the country, his family, his friends, even his languaje just for a wild adventure. The more conscient you are about all this, the most cahnces you got to succed. 




MistressSadie69 -> RE: RELOCATING IMPLICATIONS (11/27/2007 2:18:34 PM)

I think that for many people the dream of relocating to be a permanent sub is just that- a dream. Few actually have the intention of following through, so of course dealing with issues such as visas, and supporting themselves rarely come into play.

Someone that honestly has the intent of moving will most likely have a plan in the works for the above mentioned.




SageFemmexx -> RE: RELOCATING IMPLICATIONS (11/27/2007 2:42:44 PM)

Excellent points there. My dominant husband moved across country to live with me on ten acres in the middle of nowhere. Even though we had known each other for years, there is quite a culture shock when moving from Florida to the wilds of Oklahoma. Even though he had a list of job skills a yard long, it still took him several months of looking in order to find something that enabled him to pay his child support and have something to live on. We had to work out living spaces, sleeping space and privacy issues because frankly, both of us were used to living by ourselves. We finally compromised and the extra bedroom became his library, crafting and computer space and we share the queen sized bed but closet and dresser space had to be found.

Believe me, being in love does not resolve all conflicts, it's amazing how music tastes, tv shows and food become bargaining points when a new person comes into your life. Dominant or not, he was moving into MY space and we compromised alot because we wanted to work it out through respect and caring about one another. Its been four years, so it's working but...

I'll never forget the dominant city husband standing in a sea of green vines and me asking..."Ah, honey, didn't you say you were allergic to poison ivy?" and him looking down and saying, "Oh crap, is that what it looks like?" "Uh huh"......."eeek!"  (lol)

Blessings and be well,




probablyknowme -> RE: RELOCATING IMPLICATIONS (11/27/2007 2:57:00 PM)

*waves to the fellow Okie*

Hi there [8D]




stella41b -> RE: RELOCATING IMPLICATIONS (11/27/2007 5:33:52 PM)

I'll come in on this, as I've had experience, and wish to make the following points.

I guess from a North American perspective relocating within the European Union may appear easy, but it isn't. Going from Sweden to Italy, for example isn't quite the same as moving from Wyoming to North Carolina - these are states, and in the European Union they are countries in their own right.

The only thing that's uniform in the European Union is that you have the right to relocate, settle and seek employment as a citizen of that country, but with restrictions - you usually only receive the most essential healthcare for the first six months, cannot claim any welfare for a period of up to two years, and you need to have been resident usually for two years and registered as a resident before you can even hope to take on the rights of a citizen of that country.

This just isn't about employment, income, and so on, there's a whole lot of different other issues which you need to take into account. In the European Union as it stands to today you have at least five different common mentalities and cultures, all different - you have the Nordic/Scandinavian mentality of the north, a different mentality and culture of western countries, the Southern European mentality and culture shared by Spani, Italy, Greece, Slovenia, the Eastern European mentality and culture of Bulgaria, Romania, and the Central European mentality and culture of Germany, Poland, Austria and the Czech Republic, for example. You can add a sixth 'island' mentality and culture of Great Britain and Ireland, Malta. But then again, Holland and Belgium do not share the same culture, there are similarities, but they cannot be the same, nor can Scotland and England. Northern Ireland is completely different from the Republic of Ireland. Poland is very much Eastern European but also Central European, Romania is also Eastern European, but also Southern European. Each country is to be taken individually.

Each country has its own culture, traditions, history, language, society, legislation, ideology, and even its own cost of living. A bottle of decent red wine which may cost you $20 in Britain may cost you $3 in France, $1 in Spain, $5 in the Czech Republic, and as much as $40 in Sweden.

This is not just about employment, financial aspects and getting an income. It's not only about immigration, which is the single most determining factor which decides whether you have a relationship or not in reality. In my opinion only an idiot would relocate to a foreign country without checking the immigration requirements. I know, I've been illegal myself in Poland in former times, in Russia, I've once missed deportation by a period of 12 hours. In Russia the problem was solved by a bottle of good Scotch whisky which I wasn't sure of getting until the last minute. Try to offer a US or UK official something similar and you're hung, you're as good as in those handcuffs and on the plane back. There are certain countries I cannot relocate to. Australia is one. There's a quota system and there's no way possible for me to get a visa to settle in Australia. The United States requires marriage, there is no other way.

I'm working on relocation to my Mistress in Canada, or rather, Quebec. No problems with the employment, I'm a recognised playwright and stage director, I run theatre workshops, I am also a qualified TEFL English as a Foreign Language teacher, I can verify my artistic work through articles, newspaper reviews, videos, and references. I am therefore for the sake of immigration to either Canada or Quebec visa exempt. I don't need a visa. I have family in Toronto.

This isn't what is holding things up, and what is going to delay this relocation and make it a long term process. I'm a TS female, I'm mid to late transition, on hormones, in the latter stages of my gender reassignment. Unlike most people who can seek and find employment I am self-employed and my income comes from ticket sales or participation fees, royalties, ticket sales - the traditional 'bums on seats' - or from funding. This is the hard part, the business side, getting the resources and funding. Writing plays and directing them and running workshops is easy by comparison. I do a lot of other minor, menial jobs, I write articles freelance, I translate, I teach English, and I even work as a domestic cleaner. I do ironing for women who haven't got a clue who I really am. I cannot enter the employment market until after surgery, because any potential employer just sees three months of paid salary for sick leave coming up in the future and even if they wanted to handle the social stigma of employing a TS female they certainly don't want an employee who is going to be off sick for up to three months in the foreseeable future. Therefore I'm unemployable and disqualified from the employment market.

Gender reassignment is one thing, in the New Year it will have been ten years since I first started this process which has been complicated, difficult, stop start and stressful at times the whole way through. I'm doing something in Britain known as the Real Life Test, 2 years minimum of living 24/7 as a female and being able to show documented proof of doing so - photos, bank statements, work records, etc. This is my second time round, I did something similar in Poland. I would hate to arrive in Canada and have to go through the same process all over again. Especially as it's going to take me at least 2-3 years to assimilate into Canadian society.

And this is the key word - assimilation - that process which is far more important than the employment or financial aspects, the income, and having a relationship. Assimilation is hard enough within a country, especially a country like the United States where you go say from Florida in the South to Illinois in the North. It's even harder when you're doing it internationally. This is the period when you leave your former life, your friends, your family, your lifestyle, your hobbies, even most of your possessions, your home, and emotionally sometimes even your roots and background, and you take a great leap into the unknown. You live with nothing, absolutely nothing, everything belongs to someone else, and you have to start your life all over again. But you're starting your life all over again in a place you've probably never even been to before, it's all new, different, unfamiliar, strange.

Even more so when you don't share the same language as your partner. My Mistress is French Canadian, English is her second language, she speaks it really well, fluently, but there's always something lost in translation. I'm studying French again hard, but even this isn't an ideal solution. In my last relationship in Poland I was speaking Polish as my former Mistress was Polish. I'm considered bilingual, I can speak and write the language fluently like a Pole, I've written work in Polish and directed it in Polish for Polish audiences, and everything would be fine but I'm not Polish, I don't share that mentality, and when talking about things like feelings or even explaining BDSM concepts I struggle and something gets lost in my words. I know that there's going to be many times with my Mistress where she'll be sitting with her friends, and they'll be talking and laughing in French, and I won't understand why. I may see her get angry and not have a clue what is causing her anger.

Be prepared to be lonely, to be isolated, not to understand properly what is going on around you, to misunderstand and misinterpret people. Be prepared to be depressed, to feel homesick. Be prepared for the stress and the pressure which is going to come into your relationship, testing it, straining it, putting it through unimaginable difficult situations. Be prepared for arguments, misunderstandings, conflicts, be prepared to make allowances and to give people a margin for error.

Be prepared to be thrown at any possible moment, to go through a day never knowing how it is going to work out, of having your plans fall apart, often for reasons you cannot quite understand. This isn't just the odd day, it's most days, in fact sometimes it's every day, day in, day out, and you have to deal with that stress and hassle. This isn't just the first few days, the first few months - they're easy, enjoy them while you can. We're talking months here, even years.

You've also got to ask yourself some pretty difficult and searching questions. Is it really the relationship that's so special? Or is it your perception of that relationship? And that new life? Is it really going to be better than the life you have now? How do you know? How can you be sure?

Are you relocating for the right reasons? Put the relationship to one side for a minute, because you can find a relationship anywhere you want to if you really stop and think about it. I don't subscribe to the 'One' theory, or the 'soulmate' theory. Some people understand you better than others, some people don't understand you at all. Nobody is ever born for each other, even though it's romantic to think so and all lovey dovey, but the bottom line is people have successful relationships because they can accept each other, find some level of understanding with each other, and also.. most importantly.. put up with each other. This is my only criteria for a relationship, if you can accept me for me, understand me to a deep enough degree, and feel confident that I'm not going to piss you off or drive you insane then yes, I'm all your's. I take you at face value, I get to know you, and I keep on getting to know you as long as the relationship lasts. I guess I'm pretty simplistic when it comes to relationships, but behind all the romantic bullshit and lovey dovey flowery language this is the way I actually think.

It's so easy to deceive yourself, and to deceive others through your own self-deceit, and not even have a clue you're doing it. This is especially true in BDSM, when you have all the imagery, the rituals, the culture and the subculture, and it's especially important if your other half is a Mistress. You know, I've spent a lot of my adult life serving Dommes, and when I look at the profiles of the various Dommes in their boots and corsets, holding the crops and whips and trying ever so hard to look dominant I don't see that, I see through that. It looks nice on the photos but it's not much more I guess than a small part of the relationship. Mistresses don't have it easy, they're going against popular social attitudes, they get objectified, fetishized, seen as little more than Cruella type personas by many, and few are prepared to acknowledge or even understand that it isn't an easy life. I'm not making any reference to the OP here or commenting on the relationship, but this is the way I see it generally. I'm not saying male Doms have it any easier, they should as it's more in line with 'modern socially acceptable thinking' but there's the Internet and as we all know the Internet attracts idiots like a sugary doughnut attracts wasps on a summer's day. Dommes don't have it easy, it's rarely if ever a sexual thing, it's more emotional and psychological and you need to be able to handle the weak, vulnerable side of her and find her as a woman even before you can even dream of finding the Mistress in her. Quite often it's that weak vulnerable side which makes her dominant and if you don't understand that side you can very quickly end up in hot water. Better the Devil you know.

You also need to ask yourself, and give yourself an honest answer, whether you are running away from something or escaping from something. You see the funny thing is that life has a nasty habit of shoving the things you are escaping and running away from back in your face without any warning. When you relocate, like it or not, your problems and issues go with you - all of them. And they crop up when you least expect it, and not only, they also can really screw up that new life and even destroy it. What then? Do you have a contigency plan? Do you have a Plan B? What if it doesn't work out? I'm writing here as someone who did run away and who refused to face up to issues. I'm also writing as someone who has lived through the consequences of having it all come back on me, of complete and total social rejection. My days in Poland ended finding me as a rather fat, unconvincing TS female, destitute, homeless in Warsaw during a bitterly cold November with snow on the streets, temperatures of minus fifteen, not eating for days, being attacked in a public toilet by four large dark-skinned immigrant males and a supermarket security guard (and managing to defend myself and get away), relying only on the kindness of passers-by, and a four day journey hitchhiking across Europe back to the UK with frostbitten feet and lots of walking. Just as an example.

That's the negatives... there's also the positives. I'm chasing the dream, and I admit it. I am in an all or nothing situation in life, and I've decided I want it all.. I got a birth certificate which still says male on it, and I'm looking to transcend my gender to be with my Mistress as her alpha female slave, but not only, I'm also looking to rebuild my whole life completely and restore it to what it was in the year 2001 - in a successful relationship with a Domme, successful in my career in theatre, working, self-employed, living in an apartment, socially accepted, popular, known, living abroad - I function better as a foreigner - and have the ambition to continue my career in theatre, which started as a male - only this time I'm doing it as myself, i.e. female to be one of the very few people in theatre to have found success in both genders.

Quite a few people think I'm mad, insane, deluded, I got friends advising caution, my family also advising the same but accepting of my decisions. But I haven't got any illusions. I know the odds are stacked against me at this moment in time, I know it's going to be extremely difficult, I know it's going to take a long time, and require a lot from me. But this is me, this is what I do, I live a very dedicated, frugal, individual lifestyle, the lifestyle of the missionary, I consider myself not 'lifestyle BDSM' but 'lifestyle submissive', I know I function best when I'm helping people and serving them, when I'm sharing my talents and my creativity and using these talents and skills for the benefit of other people. This is what my whole life is about.

I'm taking my time and taking it one day at a time. If it screws up it screws up. It takes a second to have an idea, a single moment, and I can have lots of them. But... I'm also following the voice of my Soul and the path it leads me through life. These aren't great expectations. Success in theatre for me is a gathering of not even a hundred people in the same space, any space to watch a theatrical performance. I'm in my 40's, this is the only time I'm ever going to get to do this in my life. One time, and as much as possible I've got to get it right. At the moment I'm finding out all I can about Canada, the people, the society, the culture, and taking this step by step.

This is the only thing that works in your favour when you relocate, just as in life - listening to that inner voice of your Soul, learning to take heed of its warnings, to be true to yourself and to other people, to say what you feel and think and not what you think the other person wants you to say, and to trust your judgment.

When I work with actors in the theatre, who are usually untrained, non-professional, one of the first things I teach them is 'don't think but do'. I've stolen this from the basic RAF training 'don't think' - trust your judgment and your instincts. Usually when you screw up you will probably find that you've stopped, done some thinking, and gone against your better instinctive judgment.

It's that 'inner voice', that instinct, that gut feeling which is the single most important factor when relocating.

I conclude with a Shakespeare quotation - "There is nothing good or bad in this world, only thinking makes it so."





littlebitxxx -> RE: RELOCATING IMPLICATIONS (11/27/2007 6:54:14 PM)

OP,  you  are  right  that there are a lot of implications to relocating.  I'm only moving  across my own  country and it's been quite a ride.  I think communication is the biggest deal here.  Jarl and  I discussed everything during our daily marathon phone  calls...and I mean everything  right down to how we like the toilet  paper roll  (him under,  me on top...hmmm, propetic?).  We  have spent 4 weekends  together,  two  in holiday mode,  two in the apartment  and had even then found situations that could have become  issues had we not discussed them.   Ie, morning  sex is wonderful - after coffee and a wake-up;  football  can be enjoyed by both if I can read while he watches;  I got into  an argument with his  frying  pan therefore he does  the eggs,  I'll do toast, etc etc etc. 

Having consistently  open and honest lines  of communication is  vital, especially before the move and whilst visiting  and figuring out what side of the bed who wants  (yes, I'm an "up the middle" type).  But yanno, as long as  y'all  can talk  and laugh and hug and work  it out...it's  all  good.   :)

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Sage

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LittleWench -> RE: RELOCATING IMPLICATIONS (11/27/2007 10:33:34 PM)

quote:

There are certain countries I cannot relocate to. Australia is one. There's a quota system and there's no way possible for me to get a visa to settle in Australia.


It can be done, but its certainly not easy.  My Owner is an American citizen and I am Australian, and he will be relocating here.  There are several different visa types you can get, some require a professional qualification or tradeskill, proven relationship with the intent of marriage, some require you to have the funds to put yourself through school, others require you to be a refugee, political asylum etc.  I think it is probably one of the more difficult countries in the world to immigrate to, but where there is a will there is a way.




Thalamus -> RE: RELOCATING IMPLICATIONS (12/2/2007 10:48:41 AM)

Hello everyone.

I’d just like to say this is an excellent thread. I am in the process of searching for a female slave. The relocation issue is probably the biggest part of the equation after actually finding the right girl.

One thing I have noticed is that so far all the profiles that state ‘Willing to relocate’ do not actually go into any detail regarding which countries etc. You may think that in such instances one might assume that the individual is willing to relocate anywhere in the world providing the details can be agreed upon satisfactorily by both parties.

However in my experience that is not the case. A whole list of criteria then becomes apparent which is not even hinted at in the profile.

It would be far more effective if the profile gave a brief description of relocation details!




stella41b -> RE: RELOCATING IMPLICATIONS (12/2/2007 10:51:09 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Thalamus

Hello everyone.

I’d just like to say this is an excellent thread. I am in the process of searching for a female slave. The relocation issue is probably the biggest part of the equation after actually finding the right girl.

One thing I have noticed is that so far all the profiles that state ‘Willing to relocate’ do not actually go into any detail regarding which countries etc. You may think that in such instances one might assume that the individual is willing to relocate anywhere in the world providing the details can be agreed upon satisfactorily by both parties.

However in my experience that is not the case. A whole list of criteria then becomes apparent which is not even hinted at in the profile.

It would be far more effective if the profile gave a brief description of relocation details!


What are you looking for? A list of immigration requirements for a list of countries? Countries visited?

This isn't like ordering something off e-Bay and checking postage or shipping costs. You're dealing with a person, a life, circumstances, authorities.

You're talking international relocation, a process which is very long, very difficult, and very complicated.

I've spent much of the year in an online relationship with my SO/Domme in the States. Like you, I'm based in the UK. I fly out for the first time next week. We're compatible, we want to be together, we want exactly the same, but this is only just the start. I have to be back in London in March 2008, I also have the option of Canada to the north where I have family and am visa exempt. This should make it easy, but I'm not counting on it. There's still a long way to go, things can change, immigration rules change constantly, and I'm heading for the southern states in an area still affected by Katrina.

You're based in the UK. If she's coming in from the EU it's straightforward, she registers for her NI Number and NHS number and after two years she's deemed to be resident and has equal rights to a British citizen bar voting. This is as far as I'm aware.

If she's coming from outside the EU, for example from the States she can visit but not do much else, e.g. work, get married, etc all of which require a visa which is obtainable from the British Consulate prior to entering the UK. But this brings you into contact with the NRD or UK Immigration Service, which I personally find to be something of a joke. It would be okay if they played by the rules and stuck to the legislation, but they don't always, because they go by the old 'sus' law. They have a habit of letting some people through and randomly rejecting or delaying legitimate visa applications.

For what it's worth if she's from outside the EU I would personally advise you to find a good Pakistani lawyer who specializes in immigration and leave the matter with them. This way the NRD know that they have to stick by the rules and process the application fairly, otherwise the matter ends up in court.

I wish you good luck in your search.




awmslave -> RE: RELOCATING IMPLICATIONS (12/3/2007 12:07:45 AM)

In my opinion relocation problems are overly feared. It seems not to be so big deal with male dominants seeking female sub.




Thalamus -> RE: RELOCATING IMPLICATIONS (12/3/2007 3:52:41 AM)

E-bay? lol

Perhaps it is the website system that should be looked at. I would suggest it may simplify things if there was a tag in the profile that stated you were willing to relocate either to another country OR relocate only within your own country.




fsub4use -> RE: RELOCATING IMPLICATIONS (12/3/2007 5:22:14 AM)

Thanks for writing about this.  i am willing to relocate, and i am planning to go to Europe?  Africa?  USA?  i don't know, but i will be leaving HERE in 6 months.  i don't know where i will go or if there will be a Dom in my life, but i know that my move will mean a job and a life of my own. 

Some of the Doms i've chatted with have been very strong about "i can support you."  That may be, but i LIKE working, i LIKE intellectual stimualtion, i have bills to pay and a family to buy gifts for, and a retirement to plan for one day.... and frankly, i will become boring if i don't work.  i am happy to relocate, but come on.... let's do this baby steps, hmmm? 






mhawk -> RE: RELOCATING IMPLICATIONS (12/3/2007 5:31:08 AM)





well i live in the states.i have not relocated out of this country but i have relocated out of state for my Lord and His wife.around 3,000 miles to be exact.

when we were making the arragements to come here i was not in the best of situations.despite the fact i was in a shelter for a month or so is beside the point and i have no shame in that part of it.i had been in a roomate situation where they could not do the "recreational habits" they wanted to(drugs,seeing as i am in recovery) i had no where to go but the shelter since i had not found a job yet.

then my Lord and His wife decided to move me to their home sooner than we had all anticipated.yes i only came here with 75 cents to my name(not ashamed of that either). but since then relocating has been more than worth it for me.

yes my Lord and His wife do ensure that i have finances but that is only so i can go do the necessary shopping for all of us on a weekly basis.outside of that i have no means of my own and we all like it that way.

my Lord and His wife both feel that as their slave that anything i require should be through them and what they deem as needed(with the exception of my World of Warcraft account....

so i guess what i am getting at is this. for the right people and the right circumstance relocation can be a wonderful thing for all involved.

also i do wish you all the best in the upcoming relocation you mentioned in your post.






AMADF -> RE: RELOCATING IMPLICATIONS (12/3/2007 2:20:13 PM)

After reading you all im very hapy to find you fellows on here and realize im not the only one that things this way and  feel bit less crazy, but above all feel very lucky that my relocation story was successfull and dont regret at all that this was made in a slow speed process. I dont know is is the only possibility but worked so good for me :)

I smile a lot when reading about closet, and bed side, and even poision plant, I also have been there and yes, that kind of stuff happends :D Im so glad we can share this experiences cause this issues are rarely mentioned, and really makes a difference when youre aware of them

I write this post originally from a mistress point of view regarding male subs. As for female subs relocating for masters, im sure same principles apply about finding your way out in every days life besides bdsm moments and also about migration issues if move to different country, etc. But I thinks theres a slight difference cause some men actually want a fem slave that doesnt work at all outside home and just serve them, and some girls are openly search husband-master including finaciall support (eventhough, as we have seen in this post some girls actually want to keep on working and dont drop their carrer just like that).

About specifying the TYPE of relocation i think its a GREAT idea!!! Maybe its very easy to add a check box about relocating so it say: "national " or  "international " or even both of them . Actually think that should be posted as a suggestions for this site... Does anyone know hot to do that? This option might  save time on search criteria, but mainly allows to be more clear about what youre looking for so that way is more probbly that you  find it.

Regards for all of you [;)]


 




petpete -> RE: RELOCATING IMPLICATIONS (12/4/2007 4:50:36 AM)

Greetings F/folks.. well it didn't work for me as i tried hard to imagine myself by my ex Mistress's feet, my life here and my close relatives kept me at bay... But at least i did made the effort to bring my ex here even for 3 weeks on Her holidays..




MissyRane -> RE: RELOCATING IMPLICATIONS (12/5/2007 5:48:52 AM)

no offence but I'd have to be thinking about relocating to the specific country. I've three countries in mind and I probably will relocate to one of those, permanently? I don't know but at least for a while. I'd never relocate to a domme I like that lives in some country I've never thought about relocating to, and I'd never just jump over, I'd rent a hotel in the country and so on, there would be no way I'd just pack my bags, jump on a plane and off we go and I'd figure out the rest later. Not a chance it is a big step, you can't just ignore all the things that have to be taken care of and those who do simply aint reasonable people and I'd definitely not engage in a relationship with somebody who doesn't think serious things like that through.

And I'd rather be dead than living off on somebodies mercy even though I could move in with somebody while I was settling down.




Lumus -> RE: RELOCATING IMPLICATIONS (12/5/2007 3:35:07 PM)

I wouldn't advise anyone moving without taking everything possible into account, first.

My girl lives in Texas; I live in Ontario [Canada].  She's moving up here, and she's staying. [8D]  We've spents months going over the various factors, most of which I researched for her, to make the paperwork involved in the transition one less burden on her plate.

In our situation, there's the need for passports; having a set sum of money to establish you can support yourself if necessary [it's a requirement for Canada, not sure how that works for Canadians moving south...never thought to look it up as it didn't apply to the situation...]; literacy test; background criminal check; a test to determine work skill sets; paperwork establishing health records; the eventual, actual immigration test...the list goes on and on.  Once we decided she was moving here for sure, I put my anal skills to use and nailed down every facet she would have to know about.

Those of you who fantasize about moving to that special someone...trust me, you want to look into all the legal requirements before trying to live the fantasy.  Otherwise you will be in for a nasty, rude shock.





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