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Whips and Floggers - 12/5/2007 7:05:26 PM   
chya


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How do you condition leather whips and floggers so they do not get ruined and how often must you do it? Is there a certain way you should store them?
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RE: Whips and Floggers - 12/5/2007 8:42:45 PM   
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I use a soft cloth with a little bit of huberd's shoe oil or boot grease soaked into it. And then I take each strand and run it between the rag. Then I hang each flogger from a nail or hook on the wall. I generally hang a towel on the wall behind them to prevent the grease from bleeding onto the wall.

I store mine hanging.

But I always defer to Elegant in matters of bootblacking.

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RE: Whips and Floggers - 12/5/2007 8:43:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BootBlackBlast


But I always defer to Elegant in matters of bootblacking.


What is the motive for your flattery?...grin...something good I hope.


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RE: Whips and Floggers - 12/5/2007 8:47:24 PM   
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Elegant, you and the kind Master Archer are superb toymakers, and you are one of the nation's most well respected bootblacks. As with nearly everything else we all have different methods. And having known and turned to you for advice regarding products one uses, and the health and scientific safety of bootblacks worldwide, I trust and value your opinion and experience.

That reminds me when are you and Master Archer going to cash in that special service from my favorite bootblack/barber??? You two need to come out to IMsL or ILS/b this year now that they're in SF.


< Message edited by BootBlackBlast -- 12/5/2007 8:50:25 PM >


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RE: Whips and Floggers - 12/5/2007 9:00:24 PM   
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TOPGRAIN FLOGGERS Floggers made with topgrain leather are fairly easy to identify. Topgrain leather is the uppermost layer of an animal’s skin. One side is fairly smooth and the other side has a suede like quality.



 Cleaning
Keep all toys clean and in good condition. Wipe topgrain floggers with a soft, barely damp cloth after each use. Handle and tails can be cleaned a few times a year with a quality saddle soap used sparingly. Brush the leather with a soft, dry brush to remove all surface dust, etc. Then, saddle soap is worked into a lather with a soft, damp sponge (not wet). The lather and only the lather should be applied to the object and rubbed in a circular motion with a nearly dry sponge. The sponge should be rinsed and squeezed out to remove all dirt and water before it is re-applied to the leather. A quality leather conditioner (such as Feibings Aussie Leather Conditioner) should be used sparingly as needed. When conditioning the tails only apply conditioner sparingly on the smooth, top grain side, not the suede like side.   Dr. Charles Moser, a nation’s leading authorities on sexuality-related medicine recommends hanging up floggers in a ventilated place for a week after use. HIV and Hep C viruses, cannot live outside the body in the air.


Storage and Ongoing Care

Leather is porous and needs to breathe. Floggers are best stored hanging. Use a cotton covering if possible (pillowcase or specially made flogger storage bag). You should store your leather in an airy, dry area that is not too hot or cold and certainly not damp. Do not store in direct contact with the flow of heating vents or near heating units and avoid direct sunlight as this will dry and fade leather. Avoid storing any leather items in plastic bags, plastic containers, tight drawers, car trunks, bathrooms or packed jumbled into a toybag or toybox. It is normal for flogger tails to stretch a bit and become uneven with use. Trim the stretched tails with sharp scissors.


  SUEDE FLOGGERS

Suede really isn't very cleanable. It is too porous and generally you end up having to rub and scrape off the soiled surface of a suede to clean or remove stains (Almost like sanding it off a piece of wood). I tend to advise against suede because of this. The thing many people don't realize is that suede will last only about 1/4 as long as a topgrain leather toy of the same type. So in the long run buying a topgrain flogger is more economical, even if the initial cost is twice that of a suede one.


Cleaning

Keep leather toys item clean and in good condition. Let your suede flogger air dry after use, as moisture cannot be removed with a cloth.  A special suede brush or suede stone will bring back the nap of the suede and might remove some dirt. Do not use cleaners, conditioners or scotch guard on suede.
  Dr. Charles Moser, a nation’s leading authorities on sexuality-related medicine recommends hanging up floggers and other leather toys in a ventilated place for a week after use. HIV and Hep C viruses, cannot live outside the body in the air.

  Storage and Ongoing Care

Leather is porous and needs to breathe. Floggers are best stored hanging. Use a cotton covering if possible (pillowcase or specially made flogger storage bag). You should store your leather in an airy, dry area that is not too hot or cold and certainly not damp. Do not store in direct contact with the flow of heating vents or near heating units and avoid direct sunlight as this will dry and fade leather. Avoid storing any leather items in plastic bags, plastic containers, tight drawers, car trunks, bathrooms or packed jumbled into a toybag or toybox. It is normal for flogger tails to stretch a bit and become uneven with use. Trim the stretched tails with sharp scissors.


  WHIPS

Continuous care and cleaning of whips is vital for these high priced toys. The intricate and tight braiding will collect dirt, dust and body oils which can drastically shorten the life of the whip. Wipe whips with a soft, barely damp cloth after each use. If possible, change crackers for each partner or soak a non-removable cracker in a 10% bleach solution for 10 minutes. Handle/grip and the length can be cleaned a few times a year with a quality saddle soap used sparingly. Brush the leather with a soft, dry brush to remove all surface dust, etc. Pay special attention to dirt and grit collected in the braids.  Then, saddle soap is worked into a lather with a soft, damp sponge (not wet). The lather and only the lather should be applied to the object and rubbed in a circular motion with a nearly dry sponge. The sponge should be rinsed and squeezed out to remove all dirt and water before it is re-applied to the leather. A quality beeswax leather conditioner (such as Feibings Aussie Leather Conditioner or The Whip Man’s Conditioner) should be used sparingly as needed. These products are a lighter viscosity than oils and vegetable based conditioners and will not gum up the whip. After conditioning, roll the whip between your palms for a while to tighten the braiding.
  Dr. Charles Moser, a nation’s leading authorities on sexuality-related medicine recommends hanging up whips in a ventilated place for a week after use. HIV and Hep C viruses, cannot live outside the body in the air.

    Storage and Ongoing Care
Leather is porous and needs to breathe. Whips are best stored hanging. Do not pull the whip straight but, rather, allow it to hang with it’s matural curl. Use a cotton covering if possible (altered pillowcase or specially made whip storage bag). You should store your leather in an airy, dry area that is not too hot or cold and certainly not damp. Do not store in direct contact with the flow of heating vents or near heating units and avoid direct sunlight as this will dry and fade leather. Avoid storing any leather items in plastic bags, plastic containers, tight drawers, car trunks, bathrooms or packed jumbled into a toybag or toybox.

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RE: Whips and Floggers - 12/5/2007 9:04:14 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BootBlackBlast


That reminds me when are you and Master Archer going to cash in that special service from my favorite bootblack/barber??? You two need to come out to IMsL or ILS/b this year now that they're in SF.



I think ILS/b is required since Im on the advisory board for ICBB. ...and Im already excited! Getting a massage/cut/shine from Richie is going to be a hoot!

I wish I could do IMsL to support Solitaire and Q but Im scheduled to be a counselor for Submissive Journey Weekend the same time....plus funding is a factor. pout




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RE: Whips and Floggers - 12/5/2007 9:17:13 PM   
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Reminder: from the CDC -- the Hep B virus can live outside the human body for at least 7 days and still cause transmission
http://www.cdc.gov/Ncidod/diseases/hepatitis/b/faqb.htm#gen

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RE: Whips and Floggers - 12/5/2007 9:55:27 PM   
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WOW Elegant thanks for sharing , very good info ..

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RE: Whips and Floggers - 12/5/2007 11:28:21 PM   
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See that's why I defer to Elegant, because although I could say all of that I had known that Elegant has so eloquently put the information to a file that is very easily accessible.

I'm considering running for NCCBB but will think about it next time the contest is held. I had thought about competing this year but the timing just wasn't right coming off of IMSBB and the possibility of competing against my puppy Scout just didn't sit right with me. I met Q at Folsom and hope she?? does well.

Yeah Richie does my mohawk pretty much bi-weekly now that he's in a shop. Maybe one time I'll let him do a hot towel shave for me too.

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