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RCdc -> .eczema. (12/12/2007 3:46:44 AM)

Eczema baths 'a waste of money' Bath products to help ease the skin inflammation caused by allergic eczema may not be worth the amount of money the NHS spends on them, a study says.  
In a household where eczema plays a part, this was not really 'new' to us.  I remember going to a doctor and being given a prescrition for bath oils and emollients which I knew did my daughter no good at all and in fact made the condition worse, and asked if it was possible to get a prescription for items I knew that did.  I was refused because they were 'not on the official NHS list' and so it was and still is down to myself to pay for her 'medication' of natural handmade products which keep her skin clear of this complaint.
 
the.dark.



Aneirin -> RE: .eczema. (12/12/2007 5:51:53 AM)

I have had experience of ecema and yes I would be inclined to agree the prescription things don't often work, they might for a time, but it comes back more resilient it would seem.

So, with an interest in phytotherapy and aromatherapy we tried other things.Pure Chickweed ointment did work quite well but smelled kind of strange, this was alleviated by adding calendula just to change the smell.

Then there was experiments with aqueous cream and various aromatherapy oils said to promote skin care.

Even oat baths, now they did work, but a messy job.

I used to get eczema, but probably I have grown out of it, but one thing I did find was I am lactose intolerant.As a child I was fed loads of the stuff and so had eczema, me being a formula sprog.There is even some suggestion on the net that cutting milk might help.I was told cows milk is for feeding cows, human milk is for feeding humans, we are not cows so maybe I can understand why it might be a problem to some, including me.

I still have a reaction to too much milk, but I love the stuff strangely.

From experience, nhs provides the cheapest option all the time.



KatyLied -> RE: .eczema. (12/12/2007 7:15:44 AM)

Eczema is tied to allergies.  What I have found useful:  Dove unscented soap, Lubriderm (lanolin free, fragrance free, dye free) lotion.

And yes, it is common for eczema to return to the same spots repeatedly.  At one point, many years ago, I had it so bad that it required a course of steroids to calm it, nothing topical was working.  



RCdc -> RE: .eczema. (12/12/2007 7:57:57 AM)

Hi Katy
 
A doctor who was a visiting GP to my practice, recommended Dove to me, which I did try on my daughter and found it really good and works, but I have to switch it so her skin doesn't get 'used' to it - and is one of the moisturisers I cannot get on prescription for her.  I'm not sure what US healthcare is like, but in the UK NHS prescriptions are free to those under 16.  I believe it is incredibly unfair, as well as costly, to allow prescriptions for emollients that block the pores and sufforcate the skin, and yet refuse to cover moisturisers that have been proven to work for people.  So I simply have to pay for the skincare myself, but I do so annoyed that I am paying taxes that in turn allow my daughter free treatment but only certain kinds.
 
the.dark.



RCdc -> RE: .eczema. (12/12/2007 8:00:10 AM)

Hi A
 
Lush do an oat bath that is wrapped in muslin which is great and you wash yourself over with the pack when it has disolved in the bath.  It is really good and not messy at all.
 
the.dark.



Aneirin -> RE: .eczema. (12/13/2007 11:49:28 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

Hi A
 
Lush do an oat bath that is wrapped in muslin which is great and you wash yourself over with the pack when it has disolved in the bath.  It is really good and not messy at all.
 
the.dark.


A ,'deluxe' version of what I used to do, I just put rolled oats, the porrage variety in a sock and do the biz.Yukky getting the mush out of the sock though when you've finished!



adoracat -> RE: .eczema. (12/13/2007 3:59:50 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

Hi A
 
Lush do an oat bath that is wrapped in muslin which is great and you wash yourself over with the pack when it has disolved in the bath.  It is really good and not messy at all.
 
the.dark.

 
if you put rolled oats through the blender till they're pulverized then wrap in a bit of muslin, its a lot cheaper.  i've done that with skin irritations (mostly sunburns) plenty of times.
 
kitten



slaverosebeauty -> RE: .eczema. (12/15/2007 9:35:13 AM)

Best advice I ever got was from the pharmacist, use dandruff shampoo on the area when you are home {a afew times a day, in the morning when you are getting ready and in the evening when you are relaxing - about 10 or 15min blocks of time}.  Just put it on the area, straight from the bottle, and leave the area uncovered until it dries, then gently wash it off using a circular motion.  I had eczema on my neck, so I would put the shampoo on my neck while I got ready in the morning, {doing hair & makeup} then rinse it off before I left the house; it's cheap, and it works.  I also tried cream of wheat in the bath and mixed it with a bit of cyphedyl (sp?) so it was almost a paste on the area while showering, then gently rinsed it off.  Those few things have helped in the past.  I don't get eczema much any more, but when I see it starting I go back to those few techniques and they get rid of it.  I had a breakout 2 or 3 days before a photoshoot earlier this year, the cream of wheat and the dandruff shampoo got rid of it in no time an I was able to do the shoot without worry.  Both methods are gentle and don't cause irritation.  I have very sensative skin, so I don't use anythign harsh, I had a reaction to Dove, so I don't personally recomend that.



KindLadyGrey -> RE: .eczema. (12/15/2007 9:45:19 AM)

This isn't workable on the face because it's too sticky, but everywhere else on the body it's wonderful.

Try this stuff called Aquaphor. It's sort of like vaseline, but better. It really does help with eczema in *sensitive* spots.

Also, plain old hydrocortisone cream can help with itching and swelling.



Aneirin -> RE: .eczema. (12/15/2007 11:03:32 AM)

I noticed today on TV, that 'Dove' is now available as a bodywash.Something I feel may be of good use to those that suffer eczema and other skin irritations.



SylvereApLeanan -> RE: .eczema. (12/15/2007 3:53:29 PM)

For my eczema, my doc suggested a combination of Claritin and Zantac (or the generic equivalents).  Together, they block the two types of histamines that trigger allergic eczema and worked much better for me than any topical ointment or moisturizer.  How does your medical coverage treat those?  Some plans won't cover OTC medications, others will with a doctor's prescription.  It might be worthwhile to try getting them instead of treatments specific to eczema if they're covered under your plan.  Both come in child-safe doses.



RCdc -> RE: .eczema. (12/15/2007 4:10:02 PM)

slaverose
I am extremely fussy and never use shampoos unless I investigate fully what goes into them, but I am glad you found something that worked for you.
 
Hi A
Yes, Dove is available for baths and showers as well as a soap (although soap can be too harsh for sensitive skin) for a long time.
 
SylvereApLeanan
Hi and yes, hydro does work, but in the UK we have to get it on prescription only not over the counter.  However my daughter is more severe and has been moved up to betnovate now.
 
M'Lady Grey,
I will look into aquaphor - thanks.
 
the.dark.



SeeksOnlyOne -> RE: .eczema. (12/15/2007 6:01:30 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: KatyLied

Eczema is tied to allergies.  What I have found useful:  Dove unscented soap, Lubriderm (lanolin free, fragrance free, dye free) lotion.

And yes, it is common for eczema to return to the same spots repeatedly.  At one point, many years ago, I had it so bad that it required a course of steroids to calm it, nothing topical was working.  


i use the dove unscented and the lubriderm-slosh up with it while still wet from a shower.....even though i always thought i had oily skin, moisturizing has helped me not have an outbreak in a couple of years now.



camille65 -> RE: .eczema. (12/15/2007 6:03:55 PM)

Old fashioned stinky pine tar soap or shampoo works for me when it crops up. Weirdly so does making a strained yogurt paste [:'(] I let that dry on my skin then wipe it off. Plain yogurt.



MadamI -> RE: .eczema. (12/20/2007 9:30:25 AM)

In Oz, the excema capital of the world, they now use primarily oatmeal based lotions for excema, with cortisone as a last resort for a bad break out. Also ice on the inflamed area as a short term itch stopper. They even use the collloidal oatmeal solutions in hospitals, but, as in the UK, they are not subsidised and are pricey. as a long-term sufferer, I smother it on morning nd night and it generally prevents outbreaks. It's what my naturopath told me 20 years ago, but has took another 10 years for medical establishment to catch on....[&:]



sub4hire -> RE: .eczema. (12/20/2007 10:44:24 AM)

Oat baths.  You buy that oatmeal at the store.  It does work when taking a bath with it.

Does anyone know?  It smells like oatmeal and almost looks like oatmeal they merely put into a food processor and ground to a fine powder.  Then charge you 3 bucks a box.

Is there anything additional to oatmeal in it?

I erupted with bug bites when moving here.  Never been without any in the last 14 months.  Had every therapy you could imagine.  New doctor has me on a line of antihistamines..seems to be helping a little.

Newest lotions are Lubridern (which isn't new) aveno and eucerin.  Eucerin when going into the sauna so it can penetrate the skin deep.
Aveno just as a daily moisturizer...



KatyLied -> RE: .eczema. (12/20/2007 11:50:52 AM)

Another lotion that I found non-irritating is body lotion from The Body Shop.  Do not get scent added, buy it plain.  It's expensive though.



ghitaPVH -> RE: .eczema. (12/20/2007 12:37:08 PM)

One of my best friends has helped hers by taking zinc...not sure how it works, but it does. its weird...



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