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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/21/2005 6:33:25 AM

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I'd like to say that
1.) There are lots of hot Gor women.
2.) They usually don't leave their masters for the best available.
3.) They mostly aren't that shallow.
4.) I'm not sure where you got your info, but it seems grossly inaccurate.
5.) Why would a hot girl not want to be submissive?!
6.) I recommend that you do a bit of homework on the topic. I think you'll find that Gor tends not to hold preconceived notions so well.
7.) Nothing is ever totally what you expect.

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/21/2005 6:34:49 AM

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Gorean lifestyle and the Gor books are somthing completly different, even if one come from the other. Ok in the Gor books you can have this strong, indepeandant woman and she get two smaks of the whip and she is a willing slave, how realistic is this? i mean if i was kidnapped, while i might play along to avoid torture, i would definitly not be willing after two smaks of a whip.

The Gorean lifestyle on the other hand is aboute willing pepole, that mean and form a lifestyle together.

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/21/2005 6:52:50 AM

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Ron, Thanks mate. Now all I gotta do is organise the finances to get to your neck of the woods. I could ask for the Enterprise to beam me across or hitch a ride on the next Acquisition ship making a slave “recruiting” trip, but I’d probably wind up on Gor…. ,RWL.

nella, I was wondering when I’d see you post. Thank you lass for that post.

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/21/2005 7:29:26 AM

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IronBear,

you obviously are not a trekkie. You can't come on the enterprise, scotty has tipped over. installed his last dilithium crystal as it were. he cou'na deliver any more power.
we will have to see if we can find an alternative form of transport.

Ron

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/21/2005 7:39:56 AM

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Is so a trekky.. just not a knowledgable one but love being glued to TV watching all I can in the time I allow myuself away from other things and here. Hmmmm alternative transport ehh? Well do you know if the Ministry of Magick allows over seas flights on broomsticks IB is a Harry Potter fan too...... And at LoR fanatic as well.

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/21/2005 11:34:33 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: NakedOnMyChain

I'd like to say that
1.) There are lots of hot Gor women.
2.) They usually don't leave their masters for the best available.
3.) They mostly aren't that shallow.
4.) I'm not sure where you got your info, but it seems grossly inaccurate.
5.) Why would a hot girl not want to be submissive?!
6.) I recommend that you do a bit of homework on the topic. I think you'll find that Gor tends not to hold preconceived notions so well.
7.) Nothing is ever totally what you expect.

Perhaps we have different standards of hot. I haven't seen a single picture of a girl on this website or the other lifestyle websites I belong to, that I would consider hot ... and that includes me. You are very pretty: you have awesome hair ... I'm sort of cute, and work out a lot ... many other girls on here I'm sure are more attractive than either of us ... but I haven't seen any supermodel types ... which was really the premise of the theory presented.

And all of what is presented here by any of us is only theory ... because Gor is fictional, and lifestyles are interpretive.

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/21/2005 12:00:09 PM

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Actually this thread should be called the problem with hot women. I think that any man sometime in their life would go out with a hot woman, knowing she is a golddiger, self-centered, devisive and usureous gash.

In time, the tits sag, the belly grows, the hips widen, the lines come to the face.

So you are left with a horrid ass of a woman. You see alot of rich guys with those........but never fear, they trade em in no newer models.

Now, the women I find hot, Anne Bancroft by example (who recently died)must have bben in her 40's when she did mrs. robinson, and I in my 20's. Lauren Bacall, who has gotta be 80 still can make me sport wood.

Those are famous people.
There are alot of women on this site I find Hot. And here and abroad as well.

They have this feminine quality, this personality thing. Barbie scale is way down the pick list.

Further, the ones who are so concerned about looks, are usually the type that do the OOOOOOOOO that hurts and don't mess with my hair I just spent hours having it done oh that may break a fingernail. and so on.

Well, that just plain ain't gona work. When I get to MY part of the happy dance, I am gonna wipe 'em around the house a little.

So here is one for the truely hot women out there.

Can I get an amen brothers?

Evangelistically,
Ron

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/21/2005 1:22:49 PM

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whether or not a woman is "hot" is totally subjective. Some men like really thin wispy women and some like the stong curvey ones. like Zena or somthing similar. so i think the word "hot" may not have been the best choice, because only you know exactlly what you are talking about. Materialistic women may have been a better descriptive word, and one that we all can relate to.

Odds are that a totally materialistic woman would not wind up in the collar of a gorean man. or any man... for long anyway.

materialistic women tend to find them selves slaveboys to marry them and cater to thier every whim.

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/21/2005 1:38:02 PM

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ORIGINAL: edana

Odds are that a totally materialistic woman would not wind up in the collar of a gorean man. or any man... for long anyway.

materialistic women tend to find them selves slaveboys to marry them and cater to thier every whim.

I agree completely ... thanks!

Sixty-eight posts and someone finally got the point.

In a world where so many view women as material possession ... don't you think some (not all of course) women would become materialistic ... and the ones with the most "firepower" will learn how to use it on those that are the biggest targets.

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/21/2005 1:48:19 PM

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I think you see where this is going.

caitlyn

You rock, girl. i laughed out loud.

pinkpleasures

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/21/2005 1:51:55 PM

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Actually this thread should be called the problem with hot women.

mnottertail

O no..another -ism, LOL. i have been complimented on my looks, so i feel safe in saying, not every attractive women looks for money, etc. Like anyone else, we want a Man with Character who is deeply committed to us.

pinkpleasures

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/21/2005 1:57:04 PM

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yes i agree, tho i also think that this is not a state of being that evolved from women being material posessions, but more from a world where your ranking in the scheme of things was directly related to whether you drove a german car, or had a well manicured lawn. society has taught us to "keep up with the Jonses" without us even knowing we are doing it.

so i can see how it is easy to be materialistic, especially if you are an attractive person to boot. that attrativness becomes who you are, and how you see yourself. and the things you acquire in life will be bought with the sole intent to maintain that level of attractivness. even if that acquisition is a man who will "provide" those things...

materialism leads to slefishness, which leads to greed and eventually loss.

slippery slope for sure...

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/21/2005 1:59:41 PM

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Nothing productive will occur here. So why'd you post?

Veav

Tisk, tisk...anyone can post an Op and start a thread. No one forces anyone to read it or post to it. But i have a kid caitlyn's age and i appauld her for realising she's gorgeous. At her age, i was too and did not know it...which led to some undesirable consequences. Beauty is power...a curse...a fact which must be faced.

BTW..thank You for explaining Gor.

pinkpleasures

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/21/2005 2:06:33 PM

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O no..another -ism, LOL. i have been complimented on my looks, so i feel safe in saying, not every attractive women looks for money, etc. Like anyone else, we want a Man with Character who is deeply committed to us.

pinkpleasures

Hmmmmmm yep I can agree with that .. See, I said you were a Classy ... what was the word I used? Ahhhhh thats it Lady.

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/21/2005 2:07:31 PM

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Edited to add... gee and with this post I became perverted! Wooo hoooooo!

cellogrrrlMK

And i missed the moment? damn girl; couldn't you have sent out invitations? i suppose now we have to throw a shower for you..ROFLMAO.

pinkpleasures

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/21/2005 2:10:57 PM

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I will openly admit that if I could take this whole thread back ... I would.

The original post, was really just supposed to be almost silly stupid ... I just had no idea that it would upset so many people's apple cart to hear a simple theory about a fantasy world based on works of fiction.

For upsetting those apple carts, I really do apologize. You should see some of the emails I have gotten in the last two days ... who could have known!!! ... ha-ha!

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/21/2005 2:14:20 PM

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Soo what is wrong with Gor? IMHO, it is Goreans themselves who create the problems as perceived by others. We can be the most self-righteous bastards, self opinionated and intolerant to other Goreans. They can to the point of rudeness treat another Gorean in a shabby fashion because the “target” is not as Gorean as they (ITO). Gor is in our hearts, it flows through us.. However we live on earth and in earthen Communities and so we must adapt our Gorean Philosophy and style of living so as not to breach the laws of our community.

IronBear

i once had a Man show me a web site where the woman's positions (from Gor, i guess) where shown and explained....they were gorgeous, but i lost the link. Do You have one, Sir?

pinkpleasures

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/21/2005 2:18:22 PM

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So go ahead and flame deride or ridicule Gor and Goreans all you want. All you do is to lose any respect we may have had of you. To answer a couple of emails I received; If you want us out of collerme, then have the courage to post it on the boards. Don’t be so lacking in moral fibre and hide behind emails. Of course you could use the block facility and block all the Gor supporters too.

IronBear

Myself, i want to hear/see what IronBear has to say. i'd never block Him. i may not know Gor, but i can recognise wisdom and kindness.

pinkpleasures

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/21/2005 2:21:46 PM

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I too have not found it Kinkypupper. It may be that I just don't get out as much as I should, but the GOR people that I have met have been a lot like the "trekkies" I have met. Lost in the fantasy world of GOR and rarely expressing their true selves...maybe they really do believe they are Dr. Spock...lol.

LovingMaster

<Reminds LovingMaster that He took a swipe at me and has still not communicated what His statement was motivated by....and begins to wonder about the mutual respect thing>

pinkpleasures

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/21/2005 2:36:32 PM

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Nothing in the original post looked down on anyone's lifestyle, or challenged it ... or anyone's right to be in it.

Saying, "The Problem With Gor" ... doesn't invalidate the whole notion of Gor.

caitlyn

i see the Op post title police are out again. i remind T/them that a title is only meant to convey the subject matter of the Op post...it is not in itself a portion thereof. Insults based on a thread's title are like whistling in the wind.

Perhaps the title police would like to suggest a FAQ with a list of acceptable titles for threads, so this "problem" does not recur.

pinkpleasures

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