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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/21/2005 2:41:47 PM   
pinkpleasures


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Perhaps we have different standards of hot. I haven't seen a single picture of a girl on this website or the other lifestyle websites I belong to, that I would consider hot ... and that includes me. You are very pretty: you have awesome hair ... I'm sort of cute, and work out a lot ... many other girls on here I'm sure are more attractive than either of us ... but I haven't seen any supermodel types ... which was really the premise of the theory presented.

caitlyn


Dear, you are a beauty. Not knowing this is like not knowing your name. It can be a dangerous mistake. i know -- i made it.

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/21/2005 2:45:53 PM   
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Hmmmmmm yep I can agree with that .. See, I said you were a Classy ... what was the word I used? Ahhhhh thats it Lady.

<Chuckles>

IronBear


i see You are excersizing Your special priviledge, Sir. LOL. <Reminds other members...i take offense at being referred to as a "lady"; and when offended, i am definately not lady-like, LOL>

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/21/2005 2:46:33 PM   
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Myself, i want to hear/see what IronBear has to say. i'd never block Him. i may not know Gor, but i can recognise wisdom and kindness.

pinkpleasures


Again thank you.....

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i once had a Man show me a web site where the woman's positions (from Gor, i guess) where shown and explained....they were gorgeous, but i lost the link. Do You have one, Sir?

pinkpleasures


My pleasure.... This is one that I love http://www.counter-urth.com/CF/index.html
you may enjoy this pink. It was inspired by a kajira I was mentoring in another forum after she was deserted by her Master and she was suicidal when I took her under my wing (Do bears have wings? If not, how do the Drop Bears get into those impossible places to drop on people without being seen? Thats a Bear secret heh)

The old man and the trik

Under darkening skies threatening rain,
A slave girl cries out in anguish, pain;
At her feet a collar, sliced and broken
Of her release, a terrible token.
In the distance, a Master rides away
N’ere looking back, his countenance terrible they say.

In the gathering dark and impending storm
Astride his kailla, a rider sits weathered and worn.
Watches the trik curled sobbing on broken ground
Slowly approaching and making no sound
Dismounting, he strides to where wide eyed she remains
Till he lifts her o’er his shoulder, and saddle regains.

N’ere a word is spoken on that short ride
Till he find the sanctuary where friends doth abide
He bids her follow to where it’s warm and have a hot meal
Where friends will care and help her heart to heal.
With gathering triks, caring and kind, he leaves her to meet
Smiling gently to her, in silence he makes his retreat.

He feels her pain and knows it so well
Mind reaching out he weaves a spell.
To heal her heart that she may grow, laugh and live
Till she finds a Master worthy of what she has to give
If in her dreams, a golden eyed bear she doth see,
A friend, nothing more, so that she may just be.

Few understand his compassion and concern
No hidden agenda, no secrets to learn
No expectation or wearing a mask
Perhaps a simple friendship is all he would ask
The old man smiles and sips a bota of paga
Picks up a quill and works on a saga

© Iron Bear 2005









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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/21/2005 2:57:23 PM   
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IronBear Sir...Your poem brought tears to my eyes. Thank You so much for sharing it.

pinkpleasures


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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/21/2005 5:03:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lovingmaster45

...maybe they really do believe they are Dr. Spock...lol.




It's MR Spock, not Dr. Spock... Dr. Spock wrote the book about caring for babies.

I don't understand the constant comparison between Gor and Trekkers (yes, the proper term is "Trekker", not Trekkie, unless those are the ones everybody says lives in their own Star Trek worlds). I'm a big Star Trek fan, have identified myself as a "Trekker", know how all the episodes in the original series went, etc. But I don't speak Klingon or live my life in an alternate universe. I've never run into people who do that, although I don't frequent conventions or chatrooms or anything like that. Like I said, I'm just a big fan who happens to know a lot of trivia and yes, I DO have a Bajoran earcuff which I wear on occasion!

Live long and prosper , cello

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/21/2005 5:54:14 PM   
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I'm just a big fan who happens to know a lot of trivia and yes, I DO have a Bajoran earcuff which I wear on occasion!

cellogrrlMK


$5 for a pic of you with the earcuff on...LMAO.

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/21/2005 8:39:44 PM   
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Let's see "caitlyn" is it...We have been together...married ten years and living a Gorean lifestyle for seven....We know of several other houses, which like Us don't spend a great deal of time online...but that have been together a very long time.

And i don't care what You think...i am Hot. And Gorean men, the ones this girl knows...aren't easily manipulated and she has the pleasure of serving several good, decent, Gorean men.

lmao.

sabrina King

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House of King
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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/21/2005 10:10:30 PM   
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this one offers warm greetings to the Master's. Mistress's
greetings slaves and subs

this one has been sitting here reading this Thread as it goes along, it seems to be the major conflict is " weather Goreans are real" well this one can say from experiance that she has been a Gorean kajira for over 10 years now, she has been to many Gorean Homes she has leaned from and Help teach others the do not understand the Gorean way of Life, this will never end for people have the right to their own opinion, for those that do not think that the Gorean lifestyle can be lived real life that is fine, us Goreans know that we are real we take the Philosophy of the John Norman Books and apply it to Our way of life, so please do not judge us for living a much stricter for of the BDSM lifestyle for many us do not judge .... this one will just say she thanks All for the converstation even though this is one thread that many will not understand or take offence to ...

*smiles wamly to All*

this one wishes You well

gabriela rya

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/22/2005 12:53:52 AM   
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Its so refreshing to see not one but two kajirae posting and posting well. Well done triks you both have demonstrated the kajira heart.

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/22/2005 7:22:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: cellogrrlMK
It's MR Spock, not Dr. Spock... Dr. Spock wrote the book about caring for babies.

you have to excuse lovingmaster, cello, he has this slight problem with the width of his scratch pads.
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ORIGINAL: cellogrrlMK
I don't understand the constant comparison between Gor and Trekkers (yes, the proper term is "Trekker", not Trekkie, unless those are the ones everybody says lives in their own Star Trek worlds).

it's actually quite ironic ... I go to conventions a lot, that being where I sell my works and bask in the adoration of teeming hordes of fans ...

OK, maybe not quite that popular, but a slave can hope, right?? :)

anyways, for a bunch of people who like to make the comparison between us and Trekk[ies|ers], the one thing none of them have ever explained is why every single convention has at least half a dozen play parties going on there. I've never actually seen a Gorean Gathering at a convention, other than informal get-togethers by Men and their property because they happen to be there at the same time, but there are formally organized and advertised play parties.

makes me wonder which sub-cultural grouping is the one with the Star Trek cornerstone in their lives.

raising the "Star Trek" spectre is simply straw man argument, and I suspect those that bring it up do so because they actually are incapable, through ignorance most likely, to rationally dispute the premises that were collated and turned into pretty badly edited fictional works by Norman. but because they want to jump on the bandwagon and appear to be "cool" to their own peer group, they trot out the Star Trek comparison. it's kind of sad that the art of rational debate has sunk so low that they're unable to counter anything with what amounts to the cornerstone of society these days - a verbal soundbite.

what's even more sad is that people don't seem to understand that their casual dismissal of the precepts contained within the philosophies that formed the backdrop to the stories of Gor is also a dismissal of many of the precepts they claim to adhere to within their own lifestyle. Gor is a collation of concepts, many of which are part and parcel of those other lifestyles. to dismiss the precepts contained within Gor is to dismiss those precepts themselves, which invalidates every lifestyle.

if Gor == Star Trek, then BDSM == Exit to Eden, another particularly badly written book. I've asked those that make the Star Trek comparison in the past to prove why the criteria they use to denigrate our chosen philosophical outlook shouldn't/can't be applied equally back at theirs, but none have been willing.

~miika
proud collared and marked property

(p.s. to the one that questioned such a relationship lasting longer than 2 years, I've been in my Master's steel for 10 years 2 months and 10 days as of this writing, in steel 22 years total now. if your experience with how long relationships last leads you to believe such a long term isn't possible, despite the evidence of this not being unique spread all over users of many different lifestyles on the forums, then perhaps you're asking yourself the wrong question?)

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/22/2005 9:15:29 AM   
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I don't know why, but that song just came to me when I read your post:

If you want to be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a PRET-ty woman your wife
So from my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you!

LOL... no offense meant to anybody! That song cracks me up...

cello

Edited to add... gee and with this post I became perverted! Wooo hoooooo!


LOLOL Cello... i had to play the song!! i love it. Dunno how it happened, but Master and i used to love singing/listening to it all the time!

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/22/2005 9:21:06 AM   
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Let's see "caitlyn" is it...

bottominwa


Yes, her nick is "caitlyn", which would have been impossible to miss had you read this thread. Yanno; if you wanna bitch about being disrespected, you should show respect yourself. Otherwise your post sounds kinda ..well....dumb. You're at least in good company; a lot of the members felt free to disrespect her..so if you were looking to join the lowest common denominator..you were effective.

pinkpleasures


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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/22/2005 9:21:30 AM   
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Awesome poem Iron Bear, thank you for sharing it

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/22/2005 9:41:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RiotGirl

LOLOL Cello... i had to play the song!! i love it. Dunno how it happened, but Master and i used to love singing/listening to it all the time!


*winks* @ RiotGirl

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/22/2005 11:03:46 AM   
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blech

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/22/2005 2:23:39 PM   
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sabrina - it is wonderful to see you post - haven't seen you in a few weeks!
Blessings to the House of King

Peace and Love


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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/22/2005 2:59:38 PM   
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*wishes she knew what Angrylibrarian wrote before he edited*

*winks*

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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/22/2005 3:40:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: IronBear

I agree dark angel, I guess I was being selfish and focusing on Gor and Goreans, but what you say is true I believe. I have little time for anybody who ridicules other people's lifestyle. I also will stand and defend other's lifestyles.


You were not being selfish at all IMO - and I thank you for your kind words.
Would it be possible for you to contact me on the profile side of CM? I don't know if you have you bulk mail filters on or my mail didnt reach you - but I wrote something and it is marked unread by yourself. I have had a bit of a hard time with my mail sent and received recently - it doesnt always reach its destination - not sure why. So you may not have it in your folder. I would appriciate if you could let me know.
Thank You in advance.

Peace and Love to You and yours


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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/22/2005 9:44:17 PM   
IronBear


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ORIGINAL: dark~angel


quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear

I agree dark angel, I guess I was being selfish and focusing on Gor and Goreans, but what you say is true I believe. I have little time for anybody who ridicules other people's lifestyle. I also will stand and defend other's lifestyles.


You were not being selfish at all IMO - and I thank you for your kind words.
Would it be possible for you to contact me on the profile side of CM? I don't know if you have you bulk mail filters on or my mail didnt reach you - but I wrote something and it is marked unread by yourself. I have had a bit of a hard time with my mail sent and received recently - it doesnt always reach its destination - not sure why. So you may not have it in your folder. I would appriciate if you could let me know.
Thank You in advance.

Peace and Love to You and yours



dark angel, lass No have received no mail BUT.. like a few other things here on CM I haven't got a clue how to access it. I've messaged a couple of Mods from the "other side" but no reply is fortnh comming. Would thay they had a "Help" and "FAQ" added on so us dumb asses might learn how to work everything here. ERMMM What folder? You mean we have folders?




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RE: The Problem With Gor - 8/23/2005 1:32:50 AM   
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I tend to agree with the original post. In real life someone would bend over backwards to get a beautful Gor girl.

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