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RE: interest in T-girls - 12/30/2007 12:28:38 PM

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You know what I mean. A girl. No penis, no balls. Has vagina, Fallopian tubes, gets a period every month, watches Oprah.

Add me to the growing list of non-girls on this thread. Oprah? I mean really.

as to the OPs question. I worked in a gay bar while I was in college, Ive been to plenty drag queen shows, and Ive spent plenty of days hanging out in malls and other places with "tgirls". Both pre-op and post-op and various other transitional stages. Also a few who were just plain old men in drag. Are they wonderful people? Well. Some of them, yea. About the same ratio of wonderful people to total scum bags that there are in any other demographic makup of folks. Of the ones that were great folks, there are a few I call close friends, and a few who are uhm, a bit closer. Would I enter into a long term romantic relationship with any of them? Nope. Now I wouldnt because Im happility married with three UMs, but I woudlnt have back when I was single because I always had this goal of getting married and having UMs and even though I check "bi" sexual on my profile, it really is only sexual because I have a preference for the other half of my relationship to be quite masculine. Now. In bed, for casual sex? I really have no preferences as to whats between your legs, as long as you can give me an orgasm Im not gonna be picky. In fact I kinda have this fetish thing for passable pre-op "tgirls"......but thats for a whole nother thread...

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RE: interest in T-girls - 12/30/2007 12:53:38 PM

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Great topic just had to add something to it. I was placed on female hormones at the age of 19 and completed my (SRS) at the age of 22. My sex reassignment surgery was completed in Bangkok Thailand with Dr.Preecha MD. As for my sexual life, it's better than I had hoped and now I'm in my second marriage. First, marriage was to a Str 8 man that had no issue with my past. His issue was "DRINKING" and the harm it causes. I'm totally female and never had a chance to mature as a male before I was placed on female hormones. For some Transsexuals the surgery means the world to them but,there's more to a person than what's between their leg's. I'm only 5'3 at 126 @ a size 6, so I put most GG's in their place with little effort. We have a huge home (5 bd 3 bath 3 car garage) that's on the water in southern California,also we have 2 new cars.(It's all paid for) It's great to have a husband that enjoy's being a C/D from time to time and I have no issue with that what so ever. It's not what he has on it's who he is. It's just out of fun with his dressing ,but you wouldn't believe the insults that we have been exposed to from just placing our pic on my profile. None of those people have any influence on my bank accounts or assets. It becomes comical at times the frustration that others get from our happiness and lifestyle.(SRS,Home,cars,financial freedom etc.)The only people that have an issue with my past gender are those I chose to tell. Recently, I have been getting familiar with the BDSM world and I want to disclose my past in hope's that someone might gain strength from my personal journey. Everyone needs to be content with the situation that's been handed to them and make the best of it. Do this and you'll find true ecstasy more than you have ever imagined.If there's someone who's negative with you or your personal issues then move on. If I would have stopped to listen to the drama I would have never made it to my Dr for my (SRS) so early in life.Instead of casting stones it might be better to take notes.Don't dream it, just be it! Disregard the negative opinions that others may try to place on your shoulders! People that wine the most are the ones that live in your local trailer park or so fat that they can't see their own genitals.Ms Amberaka/ Love4Life

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RE: interest in T-girls - 12/30/2007 7:41:48 PM

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Double post editing error.

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RE: interest in T-girls - 12/31/2007 2:49:09 AM

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Love4Life: hormones at 19, I wish I had family as understanding as that!

I've found the BDSM community in general is a lot more ok with TG/TS/Intersexed people than other groups, but there is still a stigma to it. Im glad to see most people look at the person first, but I understand some people's problems with dating/domming/owning someone who has gender issues.

Im just turned 23, and Im not a looker (yet!). I intend to start my transition this year, and hopefully living as a female by this fall/winter. I've got years of not taking care of myself to overcome because, quite frankly, I didn't care about myself before. I know Im not going to be some model or end up with any offers to do trans porn, but I do think I will end up looking a pretty decent woman. Its going to take a lot of work on my part, but in the end I might just be a bombshell babe! I guess my point is, even the hottest TS had to start somewhere. Sometimes that guy in a dress could become a rather pretty girl. ^_^

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RE: interest in T-girls - 12/31/2007 4:08:54 AM

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ORIGINAL: SubmissiveAK

Im just turned 23, and Im not a looker (yet!). I intend to start my transition this year, and hopefully living as a female by this fall/winter. I've got years of not taking care of myself to overcome because, quite frankly, I didn't care about myself before. I know Im not going to be some model or end up with any offers to do trans porn, but I do think I will end up looking a pretty decent woman. Its going to take a lot of work on my part, but in the end I might just be a bombshell babe! I guess my point is, even the hottest TS had to start somewhere. Sometimes that guy in a dress could become a rather pretty girl. ^_^

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Best advice I can give - strive for normality; dress appropriately, dont go crazy with make up, above all blend in with the natural female population. And be very aware that it is not going to be easy, regardless of any innate advantages one might have - it is in fact extremely difficult even with such advantages.

Interesting what you said about not caring for yourself before - I had a similar experience, but in terms of appearance rather than anything health wise (which is what I perhaps mistakenly picked up from your words).

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RE: interest in T-girls - 1/1/2008 3:58:33 PM

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Couldn't resist posting on this thread.:)

I totally do agree with Love4Life. Especially for those of us who happen to be different there's plenty of negative attitudes and experiences to get caught up upon. You have to know your self-worth and go for what you deserve in this life. If you start accepting crap and drama from others, that's what you'll get and it'll end up affecting how you feel about your self.

And can say from personal experience it's not always easy to stand strong, especially when you're left standing alone. Can break you totally apart. But it's the only way. And "the only way, is all the way.";) From own experience can tell that the most positive things do come out of following your heart. No matter who you are, D or s. You have to make your own life and strive for what you want and know you deserve.

So I feel the question isn't is there anyone who'd date me, rather than is there anyone I'd feel like sharing my life with. And I could never date someone I even doubted to have issues with me having gone through what I have, just don't have the energy of going through all that again. So I'm picky too.;)

Sorry for getting so preachy. Touchy subject for me, maybe.;)

heidi

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RE: interest in T-girls - 1/3/2008 11:58:14 AM

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[definition time: cissexual - "not trans", or one who's gender and body chemistry match. cissexism - privileging cissexual identities over trans identities.]

as a trans woman existing in this very cissexist world, i'm a little disconcerted by some of the discussion here. that is, most are looking at trans women as being separate from cissexual women (by calling them "real" women, "biological" women, etc) and objectifying us solely to what lies between a girl's legs. women's bodies come in all shapes and sizes, an that statement isn't exclusionary of those with a male-born history. of course genital configuration comes into play when one is thinking about sex - but if they can't see past a cock or a male history, they don't really deserve us.

i can say that i love trans women not because of their bodies or because of their history or because they're "the best of both worlds" (i cringe every time i hear that). a lot of things that i hear from other folk are transphobic, cissexist and objectifying, but for each of those people i hear i come across fantastic, beautiful individuals that understand. trans women ARE women - some people are too caught up in themselves to realize this, but do you really want anything to do with them?

and now I'M getting preachy. i'll stop before i start spouting trans politic.

-madison

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RE: interest in T-girls - 1/3/2008 12:10:24 PM

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ORIGINAL: puzyrov
... trans women ARE women - some people are too caught up in themselves to realize this, but do you really want anything to do with them?

-madison

This is so true. If I have a cock, if I dont... I still feel and think of myself as a woman. In fact it would really bother me to be in any kind of relationship with someone who sees me as a man, a boy, or any variation of "male". I dont know why it bothers me so... but it does.

LadyEllen: I am actually struggling with this. As I work on transition its not a very big thing, nothing garish. Its a seemingly natural, almost smooth change... but I struggle because Its not so simple to say "now I am living as a woman" as it would be if I started dressing extremely feminine, or put on an act, or whatever. I may do more of that in time, as I develop the figure and look to do it, but for now just what does it mean to be living as a woman?

Sometimes I wonder about it.

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RE: interest in T-girls - 1/3/2008 1:17:37 PM

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gimme a while - just about to get in a nice hot bath!

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RE: interest in T-girls - 1/3/2008 1:43:32 PM

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ORIGINAL: SubmissiveAK
LadyEllen: I am actually struggling with this. As I work on transition its not a very big thing, nothing garish. Its a seemingly natural, almost smooth change... but I struggle because Its not so simple to say "now I am living as a woman" as it would be if I started dressing extremely feminine, or put on an act, or whatever. I may do more of that in time, as I develop the figure and look to do it, but for now just what does it mean to be living as a woman?

Sometimes I wonder about it.

~submissiveAK~

What does it mean to be living as a woman?
- well, if its the right thing for you, its wonderful; but, only in so far as youre accepted as female, which comes to how well you pass, which isnt at all fair, but the same shallowness which pervades the rest of life, also acts here - everyone gets judged and labelled in under a second, and treated according to that label - which is why its absolutely essential to do everything possible to pass.

but (2), only in so far as it can resolve the distress of living in the wrong gender - life goes on and the rest of life's problems continue, plus there's the possible added problems of losing family, friends, employment, home etc if your transition isnt acceptable to others, plus the possible added problems of being harassed if you dont pass well. I was very lucky - I lost my marriage (but kept my ex as a best friend) and my job - but I am in an industry where I could start up on my own. Everyone else was cool about it - mainly because they'd thought it was on the cards for a long time, much longer than I had.

Everyone (from what I've observed and experienced) makes a hash of it to start with - over feminine dressing and overacting etc. Its normal it seems - whether its the release to do so or just what natural girls go through when theyre growing up (trying out different looks and so on) compressed into a few weeks. Try to keep it under control! Take time to observe what women wear and copy them - you want to merge in, not stand out. And what you say about it being natural is interesting - thats exactly as it was for me - I didnt change anything about body language etc - maybe the reason I got bullied through school for being gay was because I was naturally feminine anyway!

There isnt a given day, and you cant set a date, when you will be "living as a woman" in my opinion and experience - its something you slip into more and more until a day comes when its there. And it will be others who let you know when youve got there, because they'll not bat an eyelid at you because your transition will by then be seamless.

Now for the bath!

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RE: interest in T-girls - 1/3/2008 5:25:41 PM

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My current sub is a Tgyrl and I have no problem with our relationship

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RE: interest in T-girls - 1/3/2008 5:32:15 PM

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No interest in tgirls. Something about their swinging dicks that just can be such a mother fucking nuisance. I guess we could be buds but I doubt highly that we would have much in common.

Picking a sexual partner for many folks has a great deal to do with preference as well as gender....Because someone can swing that way does not make them anymore openminded... just means that we are not wired the same way.

Fuck a tgirl don't fuck a tgirl...The world rolls on.

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RE: interest in T-girls - 1/3/2008 5:34:25 PM

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As long as she was on the feminine side, took good care of herself and could pass for a decent female, and has had the surgery I would definitly give her a chance.

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RE: interest in T-girls - 1/3/2008 5:34:58 PM

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I am currently engaged to my TS girlfriend....and I have found myself even more interested in more TS girls

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RE: interest in T-girls - 1/3/2008 5:44:23 PM

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[definition time: cissexual - "not trans", or one who's gender and body chemistry match. cissexism - privileging cissexual identities over trans identities.]

In my 30+ years of gender issues (including 15 years of internet trans/intersexed web chat and support sites) and finding out i was born intersexed. i have NEVER heard of the term cissexual. this must be something you made up.

trisexual, pansexual, asexual, heterosexual, bisexual,lesbian,straight. yes i know i missed some i just cant think right now...watching hockey game

and now cissexual??? oop no u didnt make it up another trans person made it up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender

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RE: interest in T-girls - 1/3/2008 5:57:40 PM

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im really bad in knowing if someone is a tgirl or anything else ... i take people for how they present themselves .. not to mention any that i have found out were tgirls i was amazed that they made a better female than me!!!
Be who you are ... it wont always be easy cause it rarely is but to thine own self be true rings in my ears

edited because this wasnt directed at anyone specific ...

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RE: interest in T-girls - 1/3/2008 6:06:24 PM

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ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

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ORIGINAL: puzyrov

[definition time: cissexual - "not trans", or one who's gender and body chemistry match. cissexism - privileging cissexual identities over trans identities.]

In my 30+ years of gender issues (including 15 years of internet trans/intersexed web chat and support sites) and finding out i was born intersexed. i have NEVER heard of the term cissexual. this must be something you made up.

trisexual, pansexual, asexual, heterosexual, bisexual,lesbian,straight. yes i know i missed some i just cant think right now...watching hockey game

and now cissexual??? oop no u didnt make it up another trans person made it up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender

I was about to ask if that term was really new. I took a class on sexuality last summer where two T-women came to talk to us (BTW, meeting them was awesome. It really helped me get that these are women - something I understood intellectually, but it was entirely enlightening and wonderful experience). Neither of the women mentioned the term and it wasn't mentioned anywhere else.

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RE: interest in T-girls - 1/3/2008 6:13:24 PM

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ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

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ORIGINAL: puzyrov

[definition time: cissexual - "not trans", or one who's gender and body chemistry match. cissexism - privileging cissexual identities over trans identities.]

In my 30+ years of gender issues (including 15 years of internet trans/intersexed web chat and support sites) and finding out i was born intersexed. i have NEVER heard of the term cissexual. this must be something you made up.

trisexual, pansexual, asexual, heterosexual, bisexual,lesbian,straight. yes i know i missed some i just cant think right now...watching hockey game

and now cissexual??? oop no u didnt make it up another trans person made it up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender

I was about to ask if that term was really new. I took a class on sexuality last summer where two T-women came to talk to us (BTW, meeting them was awesome. It really helped me get that these are women - something I understood intellectually, but it was entirely enlightening and wonderful experience). Neither of the women mentioned the term and it wasn't mentioned anywhere else.

" a transsexual man from the Netherlands, in a number of internet publications.[3][4] which suggest that he proposed the term in 1995."

So yes quite new...i havent heard them talk on the net about it till i just saw it now.

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RE: interest in T-girls - 1/3/2008 6:20:11 PM

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Often times a lot of T's expesially male to female post op, don't want to use their penis's as a sexual organ. Can't speak for all of them, but the one I was a play partner with for a year never wanted their penis to be used as what it was. And she didn't get very hard on the one ocasion we did do the sex with penis thing. I did love the whole breasts and penis thing too though, cause those are one of my fav parts on each gender also.

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would it be extremely crude of me to say that, for me, the favorite parts of a man's body is his penis and the favorite part of a woman's body is her breasts and so when there is a pre-op tgirl that has had some surgery and hormone treatments...umm...sex would be excellent...damn my ex for never letting me have sex with his tgirls...

my 2 cents anyway
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RE: interest in T-girls - 1/3/2008 6:28:22 PM

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" a transsexual man from the Netherlands, in a number of internet publications.[3][4] which suggest that he proposed the term in 1995."

So yes quite new...i havent heard them talk on the net about it till i just saw it now.

Just cause I'm a nut, I pulled out the sexuality textbook and checked the index and glossary. While it does have a pretty good defination for "bondage and discipline", the term "cissexual" never appears. Since this is a ninth edition, last copyright in 2006, I guess the term didn't catch on. Now I'm tempted to e-mail the teacher and ask if she has ever heard about it!

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