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zhouwuatsien -> '~~~@, Probably something everyone already knows. (12/29/2007 11:48:26 PM)

They say you're not a real Dominant or a real submissive

Then you ask what it means to be real, and find

There are so few rules as to what a Dominant must be.  A submissive must be.

To the core aspect that a Dominant leads, a submissive follows.

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Why do they really care to say that others aren't real.

Is it Jealousy.  Is it fear.

Are they actively trying to make others seem worse for their own benefit.

Or maybe...  That's exactly what they really believe.

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"All BDSM relationships are Abusive"

I heard that today very randomly I might add.

"They all involve whips and chains, and someone getting mentally traumatized"

Though sadly we must admit, many of us know of someone who has been abused through the BDSM Community

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We have these people saying that they're 'real' Masters.  'Real' slaves.

Going beyond the consent of the partner that they choose.

No wonder we're so easily misunderstood...

The worst stories, are also the most public ones

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So few ways we could possibly publicize the beautiful relationship

Between Master and slave.

Because such things are almost not meant to be publicized, maybe it's too special to be shown to anyone else

They wouldn't understand anyway.

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I think though...  Everyone knows what it is to be submissive, to be Dominant

We see it at work every day

And on the street, our own friends who haven't a single taste of BDSM

Is the only difference between us and them...  That we acknowledge it

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We acknowledge who we are?

Or do we exaggerate it...

[][][] Hi-lo, this is just a rant.  Not really trying to organize a mob of Masters and slaves to come together and knock on people's doors.  It's open for people to put in their own two cents.  What I'm writing here isn't truth or fact, they're just the things I say.  More than anything, take it as "These are the thoughts and the understandings of a Young Master.  Someone who has done his own thing for some time, and then asked around, and was told to do his own thing...  So he kept doing his own thing."  However, I still thought it might be something nice to share...  Ciao then [][][]

~ Motion without Sound, Ice inside the fire. Stillness in the Storm, Silence hides the Sniper.
~ Eagles come and go, to someplace much higher. When the Silence grows, can you hear it Sniper?




BitaTruble -> RE: '~~~@, Probably something everyone already knows. (12/30/2007 12:17:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: zhouwuatsien

Someone who has done his own thing for some time, and then asked around, and was told to do his own thing...  So he kept doing his own thing." 



Yep, some people just get it. [;)]

Celeste




julietsierra -> RE: '~~~@, Probably something everyone already knows. (12/30/2007 12:23:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: zhouwuatsien

[][][] Hi-lo, this is just a rant.  Not really trying to organize a mob of Masters and slaves to come together and knock on people's doors. 


The whole of your post was nicely said, and I'm not laughing at you, but this line made me giggle. I can see it now... a whole movement of Masters and slaves knocking on people's doors - kind of the Jehova's Witnesses of BDSM (no slur on those who are of that faith intended). And we could have a magazine called.... hmmm... The Dungeon that we hand out as we go. I think it has to do with it being 3 something in the morning.

juliet




zhouwuatsien -> RE: '~~~****, Probably something everyone already knows. (12/30/2007 12:27:12 AM)

We would target Jehovah's Witnesses houses.  Ask them if we can "Come inside and spend an hour"

Wow...  If I played my cards right...  There could be some money made off of this...




julietsierra -> RE: '~~~****, Probably something everyone already knows. (12/30/2007 12:34:39 AM)

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ORIGINAL: zhouwuatsien

We would target Jehovah's Witnesses houses.  Ask them if we can "Come inside and spend an hour"

Wow...  If I played my cards right...  There could be some money made off of this...



lol... You may have started a movement!!! *humming a rendition of Alice's Restaurant*

juliet




TheInstrument -> RE: '~~~****, Probably something everyone already knows. (12/30/2007 12:43:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: julietsierra

quote:

ORIGINAL: zhouwuatsien

We would target Jehovah's Witnesses houses. Ask them if we can "Come inside and spend an hour"

Wow... If I played my cards right... There could be some money made off of this...



lol... You may have started a movement!!! *humming a rendition of Alice's Restaurant*

juliet





Well the trick would be in the set-up. You could start off with something along the lines of:

"Ever feel like something's missing from your life? Ever look around and feel like everyone is settling for less than who they want? Ever want to love so deeply and so truly that it almost hurts? So deeply that perhaps you've thought - to yourself, of course - you might want to express it in a way others might deem strange? If so, BDSM might be for you."

The literature could go on to explain how many modern day BDSM equipment could perhaps have been based on earlier, more severe implementations originally created by the church....ok, maybe im going to far with that one.




zhouwuatsien -> RE: '~~~****, Probably something everyone already knows. (12/30/2007 12:49:40 AM)

Too far??  Or not far ENOUGH!




julietsierra -> RE: '~~~****, Probably something everyone already knows. (12/30/2007 12:52:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TheInstrument


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ORIGINAL: julietsierra

quote:

ORIGINAL: zhouwuatsien

We would target Jehovah's Witnesses houses. Ask them if we can "Come inside and spend an hour"

Wow... If I played my cards right... There could be some money made off of this...



lol... You may have started a movement!!! *humming a rendition of Alice's Restaurant*

juliet





Well the trick would be in the set-up. You could start off with something along the lines of:

"Ever feel like something's missing from your life? Ever look around and feel like everyone is settling for less than who they want? Ever want to love so deeply and so truly that it almost hurts? So deeply that perhaps you've thought - to yourself, of course - you might want to express it in a way others might deem strange? If so, BDSM might be for you."

The literature could go on to explain how many modern day BDSM equipment could perhaps have been based on earlier, more severe implementations originally created by the church....ok, maybe im going to far with that one.


Yea, I'd leave out the history of the equipment and stick with the fluffy motivational stories with the allegorical message at the end. The history of the implementations is something they learn about in the "next level."

Oh boy...BDSM, Jehova's Witnesses and The Masons...can it get any better than that?


juliet




Prinsexx -> RE: '~~~****, Probably something everyone already knows. (12/30/2007 1:35:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TheInstrument

Ever want to love so deeply and so truly that it almost hurts?


No, I want to love so deeply it really hurts........
but I have recently been told by a prospective 'meet' that I am a fraud.........
ed. to say
PS I am really a closet Jehovah's Witness




julietsierra -> RE: '~~~****, Probably something everyone already knows. (12/30/2007 2:42:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

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ORIGINAL: TheInstrument

Ever want to love so deeply and so truly that it almost hurts?


No, I want to love so deeply it really hurts........
but I have recently been told by a prospective 'meet' that I am a fraud.........
ed. to say
PS I am really a closet Jehovah's Witness



yea...what is this "almost" crap anyway?

edited to add that this was not a slur against you TheInstrument.




batshalom -> RE: '~~~****, Probably something everyone already knows. (12/30/2007 6:48:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: zhouwuatsien

We would target Jehovah's Witnesses houses.  Ask them if we can "Come inside and spend an hour"

Wow...  If I played my cards right...  There could be some money made off of this...




I just found out on another thread that sex is a form of currency, which is exciting to no end. Misson work, however, is done for free - from faith that one's own convictions are correct and everyone else is going to hell if they don't agree, which makes it a great task for the one-true-wayers.




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: '~~~@, Probably something everyone already knows. (12/30/2007 2:21:44 PM)

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To the core aspect that a Dominant leads, a submissive follows.

Actually a lot of doms tell their subs to lead.

quote:

Because such things are almost not meant to be publicized, maybe it's too special to be shown to anyone else

Or it's not really special except in the sense that everyone's relationship is special to them and pretty meaningless to anyone else.

quote:

We see it at work every day

And on the street, our own friends who haven't a single taste of BDSM

Is the only difference between us and them...  That we acknowledge it

Being in an authority dynamic with someone is NOT the same as being fulfilled in your personal intimate relationship with someone BASED UPON an authority dynamic in the relationship.

Would you say my partner and I have a bdsm relationship?  We say it's a vanilla one.




SirJohnMandevill -> RE: '~~~@, Probably something everyone already knows. (12/30/2007 4:37:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross
Actually a lot of doms tell their subs to lead.


Ok, 'splain, Loocie. Lead in what? I'd expect a sub to negotiate limits, and offer suggestions (provided she asks permission). But "lead?" Not sure what you mean.

Les (Provider of Fine, Handcrafted Kink)




Evility -> RE: '~~~@, Probably something everyone already knows. (12/30/2007 5:39:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: zhouwuatsien
Why do they really care to say that others aren't real. Is it Jealousy?


I think that may be part of it in some particular instances. For the most part I think that people are unwilling to acknowledge ways of doing things that are different than their own because they feel it in some way takes away from their own dynamic. I have some very distinct ideas on what consitutes submission (that generally do not sit well with the fetish public, at large) but these only really apply in my own relationship. If you are not submitting to me then it really doesn't matter what you do or how you do it as long as it works for you and yours. Too many do not see it that way.




faerytattoodgirl -> RE: '~~~@, Probably something everyone already knows. (12/30/2007 5:46:41 PM)

We could have girl scouts hand out cookies and have them say.  "If you take this cookie you are showing that you are submissive to the all mighty cookie and therefore you must buy the whole box or case!"

wait...they already do this ....LOL  see bdsm is everywhere [:D]




Littlepita -> RE: '~~~****, Probably something everyone already knows. (12/30/2007 5:49:28 PM)

I'm so glad that I could care less what "they" think of what I do with my life.




zhouwuatsien -> RE: '~~~@, Probably something everyone already knows. (12/31/2007 1:54:41 PM)

You're fat.

Fatty.




laurell3 -> RE: '~~~@, Probably something everyone already knows. (12/31/2007 2:25:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: zhouwuatsien

You're fat.

Fatty.



Put down the eggnog and walk away from the pc.  How is this even remotely appropriate or intelligent?




meticulousgirl -> RE: '~~~****, Probably something everyone already knows. (12/31/2007 3:18:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: zhouwuatsien

We would target Jehovah's Witnesses houses.  Ask them if we can "Come inside and spend an hour"

Wow...  If I played my cards right...  There could be some money made off of this...



LOL

we'd go with our collars on and our Doms clothing preferences right....including nudity....oh yeah and then the Doms would have to carry their fav. implement, and wear their favorite scene related attire.

God that would be so well deserved and hillarious!

~meticulous~




meticulousgirl -> RE: '~~~@, Probably something everyone already knows. (12/31/2007 3:20:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: faerytattoodgirl

We could have girl scouts hand out cookies and have them say.  "If you take this cookie you are showing that you are submissive to the all mighty cookie and therefore you must buy the whole box or case!"

wait...they already do this ....LOL  see bdsm is everywhere [:D]



that is so freakin true...i use to be one, i should know.

~meticulous~




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