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berrysurprise -> RE: Love vs D/s (1/5/2008 4:13:18 AM)

so very-well said eyesopened... :)




missturbation -> RE: Love vs D/s (1/5/2008 5:40:25 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: berrysurprise

Is it possible to love your Master/Dom without falling in love with them?


For me yes.
I love Sir but i am not in love with Him.
For me its about what i need. I need D/s but i do not need to be loved or be in love.




Surrenderwithin -> RE: Love vs D/s (1/5/2008 6:07:29 PM)

The capacity for love varies from one person to the next. There are many types of love. Some people are able to love someone one way yet maintain a distance. So the answer to your question is: It depends on the people involved. I personally could never serve ( fully as a slave) a Master whom I did not love, be in love with, and respect wholeheartedly. I know others who are a slave and are not IN love with thier Master. I personally feel that a type of love is needed to cement the relationship, but I am sure there are others who would have a differing opinion.
Maggi




berrysurprise -> RE: Love vs D/s (5/2/2009 10:09:51 PM)

I was happy... but i think it is fading...




berrysurprise -> RE: Love vs D/s (5/2/2009 11:24:58 PM)

I know i need D/s... but i also need to be loved




lally2 -> RE: Love vs D/s (5/3/2009 3:22:38 AM)

hey berry,

i just read youre last two posts and i had to say hi.

i think i know how youre feeling right now.  i think, but im likely to be shot down here by some, that there are two primary approaches to submission.  there is the pragmatic approach - submission is expected, orders are given, the submissive responds.  there doesnt need to be love on either side for this to work very well.

then there is the emotional approach to submission, where what is given and submitted to comes from a strong need to give all of youreself and to give all of youreself means to give youre emotions too. it does lead to a level of vulnerability that i for one love to feel.  i love and need to feel so secure and stable in my relationship that i can give it all freely, that is when i am at my best submissively.  if i feel i have to hold back to protect myself then my submission gets into difficulties.

there are lots of grey areas in between these two approaches.  niether is better than the other, its just how it works for some or how the relationship theyre in works.

if you need to talk to someone youre more than welcome to swing by my place any time. x

edited to add:  i have submitted pragmatically and emotionally.  i would say though that the pragmatic approach was always within a temporary position and the emotional way was always with relationships that had no predetermined shelf life.





puppypauer -> RE: Love vs D/s (5/3/2009 4:42:38 AM)

I am not sure either. I love my Dom and would not want it any other way.




InTonguesslut -> RE: Love vs D/s (5/3/2009 5:58:56 AM)

For me yes totally.
For others posiibly not.




littlewonder -> RE: Love vs D/s (5/3/2009 7:05:37 AM)

It's possible if that's what you are seeking. Just find someone you admire but you don't find attractive and keep the two separate.

I've done it in the past but it was very unsatisfying and unfulfilling.

These days I need the entire package. Without it all I just can't be productive.




obis -> RE: Love vs D/s (5/3/2009 7:17:48 PM)

From the D side, I can say honestly I have loved every girl who has ever submitted to me. But there was only one I was in love with, because she was the only one who filled every part of my heart, including all the ones that had nothing to do with D/s.




breatheasone -> RE: Love vs D/s (5/3/2009 10:13:01 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: berrysurprise

Is it possible to love your Master/Dom without falling in love with them?

yep




GoddessTeaze -> RE: Love vs D/s (5/3/2009 11:29:51 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: petpete

Now aren't you a little bit selfish scs??? You forget that us subs can fall easier then the powerful and Almighty D's do??!! Lets face it guys its not our choice of what happens to us... Its our stupid hearts that fall, pardon me, is there a cone of silence here??


Since when can one rule their feelings,
and what noncence are you saying here that subs fall easier then Dominants?

D/s is a choice,
you as sub have a choice, in order to say I want to serve You,
but No I don't want to serve You.
D/s is a relationship between 2 humanbeings,
which ought to be respected, cared for, and communicated with.

No one can make you submit when you don't want too.

I always remember this quote :

~ Nobody can make you feel inferior without your consent. ~Eleanor Roosevelt~

So petpete, all I can say is that in My case,
I need to fall inlove with My sub, and love him/her
allong the way, otherwise to Me, it feels totally empty.

And that's Not the way I want to live.

But there are many ways to live D/s.

But you always have a choice!! Don't forget that.

berrysuprice, I think you've answered your own question,
later on. That you want the whole deal. Which is alright.
Many people want that. It's a matter of finding the right
match, and that isn't easy.

I wish you enough.

GoddezzT`




berrysurprise -> RE: Love vs D/s (5/4/2009 3:37:55 AM)

thank you for your comment... it is nice to know that others can relate to how i feel... sometimes i feel so alone... too alone... - thanks again for sharing :)




berrysurprise -> RE: Love vs D/s (5/4/2009 3:45:53 AM)

when i am with him... i feel like i have everything i could ever need...  - but when i am alone the loneliness is so painfully deep i cannot stand it... I know that we will never be together as a whole.... so where can i find the strength to be alone completely and able to open myself up to the opportunity to find someone who can complete me. when i am risking losing someone i love so deeply... and i may never find someone who understands me so well...




GYPZYQUEEN -> RE: Love vs D/s (5/4/2009 3:58:04 AM)

pete...
 
I fall deep and I fall hard..

the DOMME heart is not "almighty' ,hard and railing against..
the onslaughts of love ...
 
it at times wants to surrender to love as much as yours
 
..it is as soft..pliable and vulnerable as anyone's
 
 





noorman53 -> RE: Love vs D/s (5/4/2009 8:23:03 AM)

My experience: yes, it is possible. I esteem and respect my Mrs, enjoy being Her toy but we don't love eachother




RavenMuse -> RE: Love vs D/s (5/4/2009 4:28:25 PM)

I am most certainly NOT 'in love' with My girl nor is she 'in love' with Me. I care for and about her and I have a duty of care also but I don't need the romantic claptrap




GoddessTeaze -> RE: Love vs D/s (5/5/2009 1:28:47 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: berrysurprise

when i am with him... i feel like i have everything i could ever need...  - but when i am alone the loneliness is so painfully deep i cannot stand it... I know that we will never be together as a whole.... so where can i find the strength to be alone completely and able to open myself up to the opportunity to find someone who can complete me. when i am risking losing someone i love so deeply... and i may never find someone who understands me so well...


I so understand where you're coming from.
And that emptyness is so painfull. It's a shame you two can't b
together. Yesterday I spoke to a subbygirl. who broke off with her Dom,
because she fell inlove, and he told her not to....

To Me it's amazing to b so intimate and not fall for that person.
He expected her to bare her soul, and that doesn't happen overnight..
and then she got "punished" for her feelings..

Well I don't understand such a type of commitments.

But again, I understand you, and you'll find it one day,
although it will take time, to get there.

I wish you enough berrysurprice.

Warm Greetingz

GoddezzT`




berrysurprise -> RE: Love vs D/s (5/5/2009 5:01:58 AM)

Thank you...




eyesopened -> RE: Love vs D/s (5/6/2009 5:11:45 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: berrysurprise

when i am with him... i feel like i have everything i could ever need...  - but when i am alone the loneliness is so painfully deep i cannot stand it... I know that we will never be together as a whole.... so where can i find the strength to be alone completely and able to open myself up to the opportunity to find someone who can complete me. when i am risking losing someone i love so deeply... and i may never find someone who understands me so well...


What worked for me was to be complete first, on my own, as an individual.  That way I can never feel incomplete or empty or lonely.  I am whole, I am complete, just me, as I am.

Finding my Master did not complete me, nor did it complete Him and I would have never been attracted to Him had He been incomplete.  We enrich each other.  Big difference.




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