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RE: Training for another - 1/4/2008 7:07:55 PM   
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If you do this you will find you have lost a friend and gained a submissive you aren't particularly compatible with.

Mentor him. Explain to him that in order to get submission, he has to earn it. That he has to consistently demonstrate good choices in the areas he wishes to control.

Which means if he orders dinner for her and she's allergic to fish, he has to remember that and specify no anchovies, even if that's his favorite.

If he's picking her clothes, he better be able to coordinate things and know what is professional, what is casual, what is suitable with family, and what is suitable clubbing.

And that he has to be sufficiently self aware to be able to admit that he is clueless when it comes to women's clothing, so he should ask her to choose three appropriate outfits and he picks from them.

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RE: Training for another - 1/4/2008 7:20:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: zimmeron

I'd like to ask my fellow Doms is this. A friend of mine, has asked me to "train" his girlfriend. She seems perfectly willing, and it's not sexual at all. He wants her to be the kind of mentally and emotionally submissive girl in public that he has seen me with.

Should I do this for him? Should I just try to teach him what I do when I am bringing up or training a sub for myself, or should I just leave the entire thing alone. I don't want to potentially damage their relationship. I know she "seems" willing but I've run into a lot of girls who have seemed like that but really weren't ready or willing at all.

He's been hounding me for a while and I thought this would be a good question to ask here.

Doesn't get any simpler than this....
 
What you do is sit back and let Nature take its naural course. 
 
She (apparently) wants discipline.
 
He apparently wants it for her, too, but is incapable of delivering himself.
 
They both face facts and move on to more compatible partners....
 
Focus.

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RE: Training for another - 1/4/2008 7:53:36 PM   
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From a submissive point of view, some of us become submissive to the person, not just any ol body... so if I was being trained to be submissive to a person, they are the only one I would feel that way toward. I do not translate being submissive to one person to another. He is taking a huge risk by having his sub mentally be submissive to another dominant.. just my opinion

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RE: Training for another - 1/4/2008 9:14:32 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: zimmeron

I'd like to ask my fellow Doms is this. A friend of mine, has asked me to "train" his girlfriend. She seems perfectly willing, and it's not sexual at all. He wants her to be the kind of mentally and emotionally submissive girl in public that he has seen me with.

Should I do this for him? Should I just try to teach him what I do when I am bringing up or training a sub for myself, or should I just leave the entire thing alone. I don't want to potentially damage their relationship. I know she "seems" willing but I've run into a lot of girls who have seemed like that but really weren't ready or willing at all.

He's been hounding me for a while and I thought this would be a good question to ask here.


How hot is this girl? She would have to be quite hot to be worth the headaches this could cause.

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RE: Training for another - 1/4/2008 10:13:40 PM   
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It does seem odd that he wouldn't want to do the work himself. I'm a fairly inexperienced Dom/Master myself and the mutual discovery with an equally willing, buy inexperience sub/slave is a huge part of the attraction to the lifestyle for me.
-R

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RE: Training for another - 1/4/2008 10:49:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: zimmeron

I'd like to ask my fellow Doms is this. A friend of mine, has asked me to "train" his girlfriend. She seems perfectly willing, and it's not sexual at all. He wants her to be the kind of mentally and emotionally submissive girl in public that he has seen me with.

Should I do this for him? Should I just try to teach him what I do when I am bringing up or training a sub for myself, or should I just leave the entire thing alone. I don't want to potentially damage their relationship. I know she "seems" willing but I've run into a lot of girls who have seemed like that but really weren't ready or willing at all.

He's been hounding me for a while and I thought this would be a good question to ask here.


Hello zimmeron. This "fellow Dom" says you never train a friend's sub. This seems like a fantasie thingie more than anything else...RL

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RE: Training for another - 1/5/2008 6:00:07 AM   
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train her hard  make her a good slave 

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RE: Training for another - 1/6/2008 5:50:44 AM   
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Train his sub, sure. Train his girlfriend, only if you're a lawyer.

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RE: Training for another - 1/6/2008 8:51:22 AM   
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i cant imagine being trained by someone else to serve another.

without the connection of the minds, created by wanting to serve him, i think it would just make me giggle to have someone else tell me to act a certain way or do a certain thing.

i also cant imagine getting that connection of the minds with someone who would hand me off to another.

even if he is inexperienced, learning together would be better and create a stronger bond between him and his sub.......imho anyhow.

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RE: Training for another - 1/7/2008 9:39:40 AM   
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I always get a laugh when this subject comes up, and likely hold a different view than most, since I know a slave can be trained for another.  What makes being a slave different from anything else?  Can we suddenly not train someone to be a teacher?  However, no you cannot train someone to serve a particular person, what training I do may make a slave very unsuitable for someone else, and often does.  But I also teach them to know what they need and want and help them locate it.  I don't train girls for other dominants, that would never work, but it does not mean a girl cannot be trained.

There is alot more to being a slave than the emotional aspects and connections, all of that can be trained, and not everyone is a suitable trainer, it's a skill like any other, and not many have it.


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RE: Training for another - 1/7/2008 10:40:08 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: zimmeron

I'd like to ask my fellow Doms is this. A friend of mine, has asked me to "train" his girlfriend. She seems perfectly willing, and it's not sexual at all. He wants her to be the kind of mentally and emotionally submissive girl in public that he has seen me with.

Should I do this for him? Should I just try to teach him what I do when I am bringing up or training a sub for myself, or should I just leave the entire thing alone. I don't want to potentially damage their relationship. I know she "seems" willing but I've run into a lot of girls who have seemed like that but really weren't ready or willing at all.

He's been hounding me for a while and I thought this would be a good question to ask here.

Do not do it.  Point him in the right direction on how to train his own sub.  You can give him some pointers but do not do it for him.  If he really is a Dom or wants to be then he needs to take the initiative to do his homework and train her himself.

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