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RE: FW Dialogue - 6/27/2009 6:56:40 PM

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Can I just say

this is not me saying this and I apologize if you think it is me

this is someone else posting this I am just alerting you to the thread .

Mitzie

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RE: FW Dialogue - 6/27/2009 7:03:36 PM

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*looks at the photo, back at the post, the photo, the post, frowns*

It looks like you posting this stuff. If you "needed" to let ME know, you know how to message me, here OR there.

If you "needed" to serve as a conduit for Rap's conjecture & misinformation, you did it right.

~K

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RE: FW Dialogue - 6/27/2009 7:09:47 PM

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well you know if you once ate out of a dogs bowl then so be it

You dont see I am alerting you to a post for gawds sake

pms on here ??? come on now

if you dont care about your past and want me to hide it in pm ???? excuse me ???

be real on here dont hide it !!!!

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"The free should not be slave, and the slave should not be free," he said. "I do not understand," she said. "Just as it is wrong for the properly free to be enslaved," he said, "so, too, it is wrong for the properly enslaved to be free."PoG

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RE: FW Dialogue - 6/27/2009 7:14:22 PM

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sounds like the actual motive for your post is coming out now, Mitzie. Should we just lump you in with rapture?

Didn't we all get enough of Rapture's crap when he use to post here? I for one can do without a repeat especially when its him posting on another website. Let them who wish it find their own pain instead of us innocent folks who have been gladly rid of him for a long while lol.

We also know that much of what Rapture says many times is his own presumption of the facts, meant to be silliness and insults and shock value. grins, i mean Mitzie i have heard rumors you were a nude model or was it stripper but i am sure a woman who claims to be a Free Woman of Gorean and live by such a modest position wouldn't hold such a profession. But surprisingly, in al the discussions of FW etc, i never saw you mention this fact, or missed it if you did. I mean hell, it was RAPTURE saying it. come on, get a life already.

angel

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RE: FW Dialogue - 6/27/2009 7:26:29 PM

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Well

angel you knw I dont happen to hide what I do for a living and note I say for a living

yes I am a model and yes I earn money at it and might I add good money at it.

does that alter who I am off line and not working ??

I dont think so I know who I am and if you think by alerting others to me care then forget it. I dont hide it from my friends

Mitzie

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"The free should not be slave, and the slave should not be free," he said. "I do not understand," she said. "Just as it is wrong for the properly free to be enslaved," he said, "so, too, it is wrong for the properly enslaved to be free."PoG

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RE: FW Dialogue - 6/27/2009 7:41:10 PM

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OooooooooooooooK.......
I'm having a devil of a time wrapping my mind around that one, based on what I've read in the books.

Grace

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RE: FW Dialogue - 6/27/2009 7:55:47 PM

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i don't know Mitzie -- i guess the same thing can be said about anyone's past or offline life their friends probably know quite a bit about them, if someone doesn't ----- perhaps they aren't in their circle of friends as they felt they should have been. Personally i think there is a BIG difference between divulging your PAST or private information to any anonymous nicknames on a public discussion board where it really doesn't come up often, and divulging to friends. But that's just me, i don't yell out my past or private information about me in the street either offline --- maybe you are different.

lol Grace, me too especially since she seems to be making a big deal out of what a Free Woman who once was a slave -- which even in the books that happened, once did as a slave. I mean hell, if what slaves do as slaves is what is going to become newsworthy, i think we are going to have more people bitching about its al about slaves, i mean hell -- i bet jealousy will rise up and slaves now will start competing to see who has gotten to do the coolest thing as a slave.

Okay Free you better nip this one in the bud before the slaves sniff it out and tell the current slaves no personal play by plays of slavery so they don't feel left out. Thinks on second thought -- i use to slurp cherries off my Master's dick with my eyes closed while humming in my throat. grins. beat that.

angel

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RE: FW Dialogue - 6/27/2009 8:14:59 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: barelynangel

Okay Free you better nip this one in the bud before the slaves sniff it out and tell the current slaves no personal play by plays of slavery so they don't feel left out. Thinks on second thought -- i use to slurp cherries off my Master's dick with my eyes closed while humming in my throat. grins. beat that.

angel

But...to top that, I'd have to like....lift a veil or sumfin. ROTFLLLLLLLLLLL
Thanks for that snickergigle, angel. I needed it after the crap I've been reading this evening.

Gracie

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RE: FW Dialogue - 6/27/2009 8:16:52 PM

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blinks innocently -- i live to please Grace.

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RE: FW Dialogue - 6/27/2009 8:32:36 PM

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*GRIN*...and no comment...

Grace

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RE: FW Dialogue - 6/27/2009 8:35:18 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mitzie
well you know if you once ate out of a dogs bowl then so be it

Are you asking me if this is true?

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mitzie
You dont see I am alerting you to a post for gawds sake

Ahhh, so you are NOT asking me if this is true, you're just "alerting me" to a thread. A thread on another site. A thread on which I have already posted. Did you think I have suddenly forgotten how to find that site?

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mitzie
pms on here ??? come on now

I said nothing about "pms". I said "message me"....you know, like you did the other day...or have you suddenly forgotten how to get to collarme's email?

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mitzie
if you dont care about your past

What I do not care about is anything Rap has to say. That includes those who go around copying/pasting his stuff.

I care enough about my past to have shared much of it in multiple essays which you, AND Rap, can read at your leisure.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mitzie
and want me to hide it in pm ???? excuse me ???

If I had something to hide, then I would hardly have written essays about it, would I?

I was not inviting you to "hide" my past in pm. I was rather suggesting that you ask for personal information in a personal venue, personally. Instead, you chose to post it publically as if it's of some dire importance to everyone what I may or may not have done while collared. As though there's some sort of shame in a collared woman being obedient.

I think that anyone who sees something shameful in a collared female being obedient needs to take a good long look at the hypocrisy of calling themselves "Gorean" while harboring such puritanical repression.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mitzie
be real on here dont hide it !!!!

Is this a command, Mitzie? I'm sure you didn't intend to use an imperative tone with me, so I'll simply repeat this once more:

Anyone who wants to ask me any personal questions can freely do so directly, one-to-one, personally. If they prefer to read about my personal history in a more public setting, I invite them to search out my several blogs/journals & read to their heart's content.

We are done here, Mitzie. Consider me "alerted".

~Kimveri

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RE: FW Dialogue - 6/28/2009 5:31:43 AM

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quote:

I said nothing about "pms". I said "message me"....you know, like you did the other day...or have you suddenly forgotten how to get to collarme's email?

yes you said that but you didnt answer the pm I sent you so whats the point. I also did message Liz prior to posting here because she was the one who first mentioned the post on the other site where Brule was being ridiculed but there was no reply she later told me she was not at her comp.

your not the only ones he was having a go at he seems to think I too was a slave and he says he will look further into it.

Have I a problem with a once slave being a FW no I dont it happens in the books.

At the time of posting Kim I didnt know you had been a slave but I did know that Liz had been FC to Bull not slave to him so I assumed he was spreading lies.

No doubt the thread will carry on over there and other nasty threads however the next time I see lies and ridiculous assumptions about people on here I will not alert any of you to it.

I too am done

well wishes

Mitzie

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RE: FW Dialogue - 6/28/2009 5:51:25 AM

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Mitzie, if you KNEW Liz was a FC to Bull why didn't you yourself correct his lies in your post instead of letting them be? I mean wouldn't your integrity demand you do so instead of reposting what you actively knew was false PUBLICALLY? I mean i could see you messaging Liz and Kimveri with a hey there is information being said about you that i know is false or derogatorily being used. If Kimveri didn't answer you or Liz when you messaged them, why did you feel the need to post the falsehood publically?

I mean that's like me leaving a VM for someone i knew stating what i had heard and when they didn't get back to me sufficiently for me -- me taking out an ad in the newspaper.

angel

< Message edited by barelynangel -- 6/28/2009 5:53:06 AM >

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RE: FW Dialogue - 6/28/2009 6:40:47 AM

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well angel

you also was on the thread I didnt see you step in either ??

However I did report what was happening to a moderator there.

anyhow thats by the by now whats done is done and whats said is said.

Mitzie

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"The free should not be slave, and the slave should not be free," he said. "I do not understand," she said. "Just as it is wrong for the properly free to be enslaved," he said, "so, too, it is wrong for the properly enslaved to be free."PoG

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RE: FW Dialogue - 6/28/2009 6:46:46 AM

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Umm actually Mitzie, i don't read Rapture. So until you posted same here, i had no clue what he said specifically. In fact my previous post actively advocates leaving RAPTURES posts off this board as he was banned i believe a long time ago. NIce try though trying to pass the buck.

And i am not the one who knowingly posted a falsehood on a completely different venue without correcting same when i did so. If i were going to post a known falsehood to me, i can guarantee you i would put the correct information to my knowledge into any post i do with a falsehood actively correcting the information that i know to be false. Obvuously, you and i do things differently.

angel

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RE: FW Dialogue - 8/2/2009 8:53:45 AM

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Hello Ladies,

It's been awhile since this thread was moved to the top, so I thought I would bring it to the fore front again. Actually I have a question, and am interested in your responses, how you would handle a situation. A good situation!

Our neighbor asked to borrow our camper for the fair, their daughter has sheep, (yes we live in the Midwest as most know), so anyway, we of course said yes. We weren't using it and we were glad someone could. So this past week, they sent us a $50.00 gift card to Applebees. Which was nice and thoughtful, BUT - we didn't let them borrow it with ANY expectation of payment. To me it was just the neighborly thing to do. So now, to the question, keep it or return it?

What say you?

Take care,

Liz

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RE: FW Dialogue - 8/2/2009 9:35:54 AM

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Howdy, Liz!

quote:

ORIGINAL: ElizabethAnne
So this past week, they sent us a $50.00 gift card to Applebees. Which was nice and thoughtful, BUT - we didn't let them borrow it with ANY expectation of payment. To me it was just the neighborly thing to do. So now, to the question, keep it or return it?

I would take them out to dinner sometime in the next few weeks...at Applebees! ;-P

Much love, my friend,

~Kim

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RE: FW Dialogue - 8/2/2009 6:33:06 PM

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Hiya, Liz!

Yes, it was just the neighborly thing to do. I would consider their response to be a neighborly one as well, even if it wasn't necessary or expected. Kim's suggestion is a good one. If, however, life and schedules won't allow that, consider this...

IMO, being able to accept a gift graciously is ever bit as essential as learning to be a gracious - and sometimes generous - neighbor. Sounds to me like you were a generous neighbor, and now get to be a gracious one. How blessed you are to have neighbors that you can trust with your property, and who are also gracious and generous in return. Sometimes, life is just downright beautiful.

Gracie

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RE: FW Dialogue - 8/2/2009 8:28:29 PM

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Hiya Liz,

It is a gift of appreciation. Use it well, have a good time, and then relate the good time to them so they know that the appreciation was received.

take care,
Orion

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RE: FW Dialogue - 8/2/2009 10:31:07 PM

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Hello EliabethAnne,

To be in a fair makes for long days, the children worry about their animals, so to have a camper and to be able to stay close is a blessing. What you did, is the same thing Kirk and I would do, and I too would have a hard time accepting something in return. But I have learned the joy I felt giving, they must feel it too, and I need to allow them the same feeling.
I would bring back some dessert back for them, and keep the neighborly giving flowing.

Elan

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