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RE: how to tie a woman - 1/14/2008 3:44:22 AM   
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Oh for god sake's people, what a thread to read before leaving for my new job today, nice images!!

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RE: how to tie a woman - 1/14/2008 4:06:07 AM   
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Since rope work is a creative endevor, it is up to the Master/rigger to leave available what he/she chooses to be left available. Its your canvas paint away.

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RE: how to tie a woman - 1/14/2008 4:47:53 AM   
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I have to try some of these ideas when I get home...

Also, off topic but anyone know where I can get some velvet-like rope ( I have a small bit and I love the way it looks/feels/everything)


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RE: how to tie a woman - 1/14/2008 12:25:02 PM   
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You aren't tying her up to fuck her. You're tying her up to cocoon her in the rope, so she can feel it wrapped in silkiness around her, like a heavy cloak on a windy day. You're tying her up because it centers her, relaxes her and yet excites her at the same time.


THANK YOU for reminding all of us about that important aspect of rope!

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RE: how to tie a woman - 1/14/2008 12:29:52 PM   
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Nice LAM, complement my thread. I do believe I shall grace it with one of my oh so (insert adjective here) posts.

Spread eagle on the bed is always a hit. Or in the case of a Man you could tie his legs together, but of course that is less practical in this case.

But for a Woman there is another option, wrists to ankles. It's not hard to see why this would not work for guys, but for gals it's pretty sweet. I have had my wrists tied to my ankles, doesn't work for fucking but it was fun. You can't get comforable but it is not all that bad. And you are not going anywhere fast. You can move around but it's not easy. My pretty would be quite vulnerable that way.

Of course this does not work if you want anal, but neither does face up spread eagle, unless you got some kind of contortionist on (in ?) your hands.

Wait now, tie her wrists to her ankles and make her stand up, voila ! anal access. Geez I think of everything huh !

About twenty years ago I heard of a device called an overnighter. This would work for either sex actually. Had a wast belt and thigh straps and kept the wearers hands at the sides of their thighs. This coupled with almost any form of leash or restraint to prevent running sounds pretty effective. Note that I have never seen one, simply read a description, but it is not a pipe dream by any shot. Ponybuck could probably whip one out in an hour.

Something like that probably does exist, just it's probably not called that. People have been cobbling alot over the years. I have seen alot. One interesting piece was a leather skirt I think, and the wearer looks like she simply has her hands in the pockets, umm well actually she does. But in these pockets there are not only wrist restraints, but straps for each finger and thumb.

But then I must ask, what exactly are we talking about ? We are basically talking a rape scene but with a willing victim. Pertaining to both threads, the "victim" should seem unwilling. For either sex, a way must be found to make them try to not get it. To struggle.

I can't think of a threat or whatever that would work. After sex you have to do the dishes ? Spend a day with the inlaws ? This nasty inlaw thing started because people were immature and did stupid things, later in life alot of people like their inlaws, and the inlaws are happy to see them have someone. Anything that makes the sex unenjoyable defeats the purpose.

Perhaps getting out of the totally helpless mindset would work. Tied a bit less strictly, the "victim" could be rewarded for every minute they forestall the attempts at sex. Make it so it requires the "attacker" to pin the "victim" somehow to get the goodies. But getting someone to avoid what they want is the hard part. It would probably be quite workable in a switch/switch relationship. But not everyone is a switch. Hell I've only had one in 47 years.

Yup, in short (too late now), an option for the gals is to tie their wrists to their ankles. I think the other methods would be similar for both sexes. But the wrist to ankle thing, if you don't want her to stand up all you need is two belts. I can show you how to make a regular belt secure at a smaller size, it involves doubling it up and using the buckle differently. If it's done the way I'm thinking the wrists are held ay a 90 degree angle to the ankles tightly. In that case the "victim" cannot stand up. Hmmm, that sounds pretty good, just no anal.

Be fun.

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RE: how to tie a woman - 1/14/2008 1:49:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cuffkinks

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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

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I'm not tying someone up to rob a bank; I'm tying someone up to fuck her.


Sigh.  Some people just do NOT understand the rope.  You aren't tying her up to fuck her.  You're tying her up to cocoon her in the rope, so she can feel it wrapped in silkiness around her, like a heavy cloak on a windy day.  You're tying her up because it centers her, relaxes her and yet excites her at the same time.  You're tying her up because when you eventually fuck her, it is the one final piece that the rope cannot give her... your strength, your dominance, your ability to push her over the edge.

Sigh.

Cali
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Bravo Cali. Well said. That is what rope bondage is all about. (IMO)

But going with the OP, here's one that I have used and enjoyed in the past...
Her in a doggy-style position, spread her legs open and draw her arms down, betwen her legs, past her knees toward her ankles. Of course, just how close her wrists can get to her ankles depends on her flexability. Bind her wrists together and secure them to her ankles. Keeps her bent over. Keeps her face down. Her legs are kept open due to her arms between them. Pussy and ass are open to you for fucking, spanking, etc. She really can't move much. It's a very vulnerable position. Much fun! You just have to watch to make sure her neck is ok, since she doesn't have her hands/arms to rest any weight on.

My little girl and I saw some nice rope at Home Depot the other night. I do believe there is some shopping to be done in the near future.
I already have plenty of rope...But can one ever have enough? 
  That's my favorite one

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RE: how to tie a woman - 1/14/2008 1:57:13 PM   
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Lam:  I apologize for going off on a tangent on your thread.  I'm glad you ended up with some actual posts relating to the subject.

At the risk of sounding tedious, all three of the pictures you linked to have her knees free.  With her face down on the bed, you should be able to get at her wet girlie bits in the scissors position.  You wouldn't be able to if her knees were tied together though.  And if the hogtie is a bit "loose" so that the trunk of her body is relatively flat, and her knees are free, you should be able to slide underneath her, and it would be similar to the position if she were riding you.  All of her weight would be on you, or you would have to hold her up (or suspend her from the ceiling to just above the bed).

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RE: how to tie a woman - 1/14/2008 1:57:55 PM   
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OMG ~drools on her breasts and slides off her chair~

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RE: how to tie a woman - 1/14/2008 2:09:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Cuffkinks

quote:

ORIGINAL: CalifChick

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

I'm not tying someone up to rob a bank; I'm tying someone up to fuck her.


Sigh.  Some people just do NOT understand the rope.  You aren't tying her up to fuck her.  You're tying her up to cocoon her in the rope, so she can feel it wrapped in silkiness around her, like a heavy cloak on a windy day.  You're tying her up because it centers her, relaxes her and yet excites her at the same time.  You're tying her up because when you eventually fuck her, it is the one final piece that the rope cannot give her... your strength, your dominance, your ability to push her over the edge.

Sigh.

Cali
(silky and twisted... and then there's rope)



  Bravo Cali. Well said. That is what rope bondage is all about. (IMO)

  But going with the OP, here's one that I have used and enjoyed in the past...
Her in a doggy-style position, spread her legs open and draw her arms down, betwen her legs, past her knees toward her ankles. Of course, just how close her wrists can get to her ankles depends on her flexability. Bind her wrists together and secure them to her ankles. Keeps her bent over. Keeps her face down. Her legs are kept open due to her arms between them. Pussy and ass are open to you for fucking, spanking, etc. She really can't move much. It's a very vulnerable position. Much fun! You just have to watch to make sure her neck is ok, since she doesn't have her hands/arms to rest any weight on.

  My little girl and I saw some nice rope at Home Depot the other night. I do believe there is some shopping to be done in the near future.
I already have plenty of rope...But can one ever have enough? 


<sigh>. I am a lucky little girl. And it was quite fun walking around Home Depot in a low cut top and 4 inch heels. The rope was black and soft and braided and would look so good on me......
 
Sorry for the meandering. Now, back to our regularly scheduled bondage techniques.

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RE: how to tie a woman - 1/14/2008 2:19:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Asherdelampyr

I have to try some of these ideas when I get home...

Also, off topic but anyone know where I can get some velvet-like rope ( I have a small bit and I love the way it looks/feels/everything)



google it!

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RE: how to tie a woman - 1/14/2008 2:20:49 PM   
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T<Also drools on subtee's breasts and smears it all around. Then shows my beautiful SS leather lined cuffs, the kind firemen would have trouble cutting you out of.

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RE: how to tie a woman - 1/14/2008 2:23:02 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: hejira92

quote:

ORIGINAL: Cuffkinks

quote:

ORIGINAL: CalifChick

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

I'm not tying someone up to rob a bank; I'm tying someone up to fuck her.


Sigh.  Some people just do NOT understand the rope.  You aren't tying her up to fuck her.  You're tying her up to cocoon her in the rope, so she can feel it wrapped in silkiness around her, like a heavy cloak on a windy day.  You're tying her up because it centers her, relaxes her and yet excites her at the same time.  You're tying her up because when you eventually fuck her, it is the one final piece that the rope cannot give her... your strength, your dominance, your ability to push her over the edge.

Sigh.

Cali
(silky and twisted... and then there's rope)



  Bravo Cali. Well said. That is what rope bondage is all about. (IMO)

  But going with the OP, here's one that I have used and enjoyed in the past...
Her in a doggy-style position, spread her legs open and draw her arms down, betwen her legs, past her knees toward her ankles. Of course, just how close her wrists can get to her ankles depends on her flexability. Bind her wrists together and secure them to her ankles. Keeps her bent over. Keeps her face down. Her legs are kept open due to her arms between them. Pussy and ass are open to you for fucking, spanking, etc. She really can't move much. It's a very vulnerable position. Much fun! You just have to watch to make sure her neck is ok, since she doesn't have her hands/arms to rest any weight on.

  My little girl and I saw some nice rope at Home Depot the other night. I do believe there is some shopping to be done in the near future.
I already have plenty of rope...But can one ever have enough? 


<sigh>. I am a lucky little girl. And it was quite fun walking around Home Depot in a low cut top and 4 inch heels. The rope was black and soft and braided and would look so good on me......
 
Sorry for the meandering. Now, back to our regularly scheduled bondage techniques.


I love hemp! My Sir bought some partially preconditioned rope. I love the feel of it and I love the marks it leaves behind. I love rope burns too!

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RE: how to tie a woman - 1/14/2008 2:28:46 PM   
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A four-ton Tirfor and a couple of snatch blocks.

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RE: how to tie a woman - 1/14/2008 2:36:11 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Asherdelampyr

I have to try some of these ideas when I get home...

Also, off topic but anyone know where I can get some velvet-like rope ( I have a small bit and I love the way it looks/feels/everything)

quote:

Also, off topic but anyone know where I can get some velvet-like rope ( I have a small bit and I love the way it looks/feels/everything)


I did google it. Heres a site...


http://www.stanchionworld.com/Velvet_Ropes_s/3.htm?Click=2&gclid=CJXy0Yrk9pACFQIUPAoddEeq1A

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RE: how to tie a woman - 1/14/2008 2:47:57 PM   
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A four-ton Tirfor and a couple of snatch blocks.


Wheres the little swooning icon???

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RE: how to tie a woman - 1/14/2008 4:51:45 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: CalifChick

quote:

ORIGINAL: tigerstyle

A four-ton Tirfor and a couple of snatch blocks.


Wheres the little swooning icon???

Cali
(who knows that a snatch block doesn't go on your... snatch)

I have to know.... what is it?

As for the tying I am thinking using a table that is about 2 ft square. (maybe a little longer in one direction, so you can put your sub up on the table as well) bondage points up and down the legs, and around underneath the surface.

Bend the sub across the table arms tied so to one side and the ankles tied on the opposite. have the legs spread so that the feet a little more than sholder width. Now you have easy acess to all three holes...

Is that more what you were asking for?

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RE: how to tie a woman - 1/14/2008 5:09:39 PM   
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Phin... In layman's terms... That little wheel thingy, commonly called a pulley but also called a block, that you run a rope thru and attach to your winch... a snatch block is one of those with a swing away side so that you can thread a rope without undoing your load.  It can be extremely dangerous if not used properly.

Here is a picture:  http://www.warn.com/truck/accessories/snatch_blocks_.shtml .  You can see the sides are not connected.

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RE: how to tie a woman - 1/14/2008 6:11:26 PM   
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OK, since some of you are obviously just perving the pictures at this point, I thought I'd give a little catalogue raisonné of bondage positions that still allow you to fuck the girl...

Pretty much any spreadeagle position:
http://www.kinky-fetish-sites.com/content/naturebondage-10.jpg
It works face-down, too:
http://www.societysm.com/updates04/feb04/520darby.jpg
(Personally, I think it's easier if the legs are elevated, but strangely I'm not finding pictures of that.)

Most strappado positions, from the rear (would be nice with a pulley overhead):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4f/Strappado_-_Model_Jassi.jpg/450px-Strappado_-_Model_Jassi.jpg (strappado)

Any position where the forearms are tied to the calves (or the wrists to the ankles) and the legs are not tied together:
http://ads.whippedass.com//imagedb/3407/i/h/650/15.jpg (head down)
http://ads.whippedass.com//imagedb/3407/i/h/650/27.jpg (same thing, but now on her back)
BDSM stores love to sell implements to help you with this position:
http://www.extremerestraints.com/the-doggy-style-locking-spreader_65.html
http://www.passiononline.co.uk/shop/images/wrist-ankle-restriction-bar.jpg
The arms can go INSIDE, too:
http://www.ezbondage.com/hogtied-for-sex.jpg

Many frogtie positions, again, as long as the legs are not tied together:
http://www.vilehabit.com/picpost/stuffedsub6.jpg

Some contortionist positions that I wouldn't even know how to classify:
http://www.thespankingblog.com/images/uploads/painful_bondage4.jpg
http://www.societysm.com/updates06/oct06/520amber.jpg

Oh, one last thing: you can still fuck a girl whose ankles are tied together if you put her on her side:
http://www.restrainedelegance.com/preview/lexicon1/re6IMG_9612d.jpg (you have to imagine the rope)

And that's enough; I don't want you people to think I'm just supplying you with smut...

(Edited because, again, not all of the links worked.  Sorry guys.)

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RE: how to tie a woman - 1/14/2008 6:29:54 PM   
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I was tied with shibari (is that the way it would be phrased?) where the rope came down from around my neck, encased my breasts, secured my arms behind my back and then proceeded to go down between my legs and up the back.  The pattern on my body was such a turn on.  I absolutely loved it.  I loved how I was helpless to position myself yet could still walk if requested.  When it was fucking time all he had to do was loosen the rope just a bit and take me doggie style.  He was able to use the rope that went around my back as a harness to grab onto and fuck me harder.  It was delicious.  Big fan of rope here. 

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RE: how to tie a woman - 1/14/2008 6:30:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

The arms can go INSIDE, too:
http://www.ezbondage.com/hogtied-for-sex.jpg



Hot,very very hot, especially with the shoes still on. 

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