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simple test - 8/27/2005 3:54:09 PM

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It never fails to amaze me and I am sure it the same with others. My girls both reflect in their profiles that anyone wishing to contact them to send and email to myself first. of course the emails still come and we just laugh about it. But, what really is interesting is the nicely put and polite emails that are sent to the girls about how nice their profile is etc and if you would like to chat please just send a message. I keep wondering about these nice polite individuals... I wonder if they realize that their inability to respect what is said in my girls profile is a huge reflection of their integrity or lack there of. Why would they believe that any one choose to give them self to such a person when they continuely show a lack of ability to respect a girls limit that is the property of someone else? Do so many fail to see the wolf in sheeps clothing? or am I just being a cynic?

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RE: simple test - 8/27/2005 6:05:29 PM

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They probably don't even read the entire profile. Polite, but not thorough.

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RE: simple test - 8/27/2005 10:14:43 PM

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Do so many fail to see the wolf in sheeps clothing? or am I just being a cynic?

It is true that sometimes an entire profile may not be read. If and when I message a sub due to a profile or something on the message boards, it normally has something to do with a question about attire and events in there local area. If I notice that they are involved with a Master, I'll normally add something along the lines of "I have no problem with you awaiting approval of your Master to message me back"

Any how, I do not wear sheeps clothing. I'm just polite most of the time. If people want to really try the polite thing to seduce away someones sub or have some other wicked minded and illegal / scamming agenda, it's something that the two of you will have to think about together.

As for me, when I invite the opprotunity to chat and keep in touch, I expect and invite for there other half to chat and such with me as well.

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RE: simple test - 8/28/2005 8:24:47 AM

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ummm i dont think many even READ the profiles at all... my profile says(in the first and ONLY sentence) that im not looking for anything except community and a place to talk... yet still since i joined(oh less than a week ago) i have been propositioned and attacked for "not answering in a timely manner"... and im certainly not going to join up with someone on another continent just cause they say theyre dom... lol i understand how you and your girls feel...

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RE: simple test - 8/28/2005 9:26:57 AM

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I think saying they are disrespecting them or their limits is giving them too much credit and importance to the event. Telemarketers aren't disrespecting you by calling you when you'd prefer them not to. Are your slaves supposed to give you the phone when it rings so the person can ask permission to talk to them first?

Obviously these people aren't going to get a response from anyone, but I don't think they are disrespecting something, they just aren't reading it or don't care.

Emails are just emails, I think if we start getting so worked up over the emails we do or don't get, we're not putting enough focus on the real stuff going on.

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RE: simple test - 8/28/2005 11:53:23 AM

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ORIGINAL: tedibare

ummm i dont think many even READ the profiles at all... my profile says(in the first and ONLY sentence) that im not looking for anything except community and a place to talk... yet still since i joined(oh less than a week ago) i have been propositioned and attacked for "not answering in a timely manner"... and im certainly not going to join up with someone on another continent just cause they say theyre dom... lol i understand how you and your girls feel...

tedi

nods yes ... that whole thing was hardly surprizing... hey I have got a few emails ... whcih I thought was great... it made me feel so wanted *G* one can't help but laugh at them....

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RE: simple test - 8/28/2005 12:05:08 PM

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ORIGINAL: EmeraldSlave2

I think saying they are disrespecting them or their limits is giving them too much credit and importance to the event. Telemarketers aren't disrespecting you by calling you when you'd prefer them not to. Are your slaves supposed to give you the phone when it rings so the person can ask permission to talk to them first?

Obviously these people aren't going to get a response from anyone, but I don't think they are disrespecting something, they just aren't reading it or don't care.

Emails are just emails, I think if we start getting so worked up over the emails we do or don't get, we're not putting enough focus on the real stuff going on.

Telemarketers???!! well that is a rather silly comparison... my phone number doesn't tell people not to call mmm but maybe yours does.... I would say this isn't even comparing apples to oranges... mmmmmm maybe a nuts to fruits comparison.

Secondly, mmmmm disrespecting mmmmm I don't believe that is what I was saying... just because someone doesn't show respect doesn't mean that they are automatically disrespecting. In fact, they are very polite when they send their emails.... but at the same time they are showing that they don't read or comprehend what is being said in the profiles and as a result just don't show respect to what is there.

"email are just emails...". mmmmmmm no!.. More importantly it is a form of communication. Everyone expresses that communication is important even critical for relationships. So if one can't comprehend or take the time to read a simple few words on a profile before they wish to initiate an email... well at a minimum it is a reflection of their communication skills to some extent and depending on the manner in which one is communicating it can reflect more. Communication is not just speaking or writing, but it is listening and comprehending what is read or heard. It is the full loop of sharing thoughts that are understood by the others, but also understanding the thoughts of others in return. Effective communication is difficult to do well at the best of times and thanks for assisting me in proving that point.

mmmmm "We should...."? mmm reflects that you have a manner of approaching the email issue that all of us should approach together and maybe even what is suppose to be important. I think everyone is different... if someone wants to think emails are important for them.. well that is their choice... heck if a person wants to focus on the weather or sports or how many marbles are in the jar.. that is their choice... As far as a general statement from myself, I think we can decide for ourselves what is important for us, we don't need to be a peg that fits into a specific hole just because someone happens to think so. We can choose for ourselves what is important to focus on and what not to focus.

A simple test.. is not just about respect or disrespect.... it is about communication. Can one read what is said and comprehend it. People take time to write their thoughts and feelings down... Can the person take the time to read it and comprehend it? It reflects much to me on their communications skills... and depending on the manner they send their email... it could express more.

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RE: simple test - 8/28/2005 3:08:43 PM

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I completely agree if i was told to not have contact with others without "future His'" permission and i posted it , i expect that people should respect it. If they don't , they will not be happy with the response that might come there way.

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ORIGINAL: EmeraldSlave2

I think saying they are disrespecting them or their limits is giving them too much credit and importance to the event. Telemarketers aren't disrespecting you by calling you when you'd prefer them not to. Are your slaves supposed to give you the phone when it rings so the person can ask permission to talk to them first?

Obviously these people aren't going to get a response from anyone, but I don't think they are disrespecting something, they just aren't reading it or don't care.

Emails are just emails, I think if we start getting so worked up over the emails we do or don't get, we're not putting enough focus on the real stuff going on.

Telemarketers???!! well that is a rather silly comparison... my phone number doesn't tell people not to call mmm but maybe yours does.... I would say this isn't even comparing apples to oranges... mmmmmm maybe a nuts to fruits comparison.

Secondly, mmmmm disrespecting mmmmm I don't believe that is what I was saying... just because someone doesn't show respect doesn't mean that they are automatically disrespecting. In fact, they are very polite when they send their emails.... but at the same time they are showing that they don't read or comprehend what is being said in the profiles and as a result just don't show respect to what is there.

"email are just emails...". mmmmmmm no!.. More importantly it is a form of communication. Everyone expresses that communication is important even critical for relationships. So if one can't comprehend or take the time to read a simple few words on a profile before they wish to initiate an email... well at a minimum it is a reflection of their communication skills to some extent and depending on the manner in which one is communicating it can reflect more. Communication is not just speaking or writing, but it is listening and comprehending what is read or heard. It is the full loop of sharing thoughts that are understood by the others, but also understanding the thoughts of others in return. Effective communication is difficult to do well at the best of times and thanks for assisting me in proving that point.

mmmmm "We should...."? mmm reflects that you have a manner of approaching the email issue that all of us should approach together and maybe even what is suppose to be important. I think everyone is different... if someone wants to think emails are important for them.. well that is their choice... heck if a person wants to focus on the weather or sports or how many marbles are in the jar.. that is their choice... As far as a general statement from myself, I think we can decide for ourselves what is important for us, we don't need to be a peg that fits into a specific hole just because someone happens to think so. We can choose for ourselves what is important to focus on and what not to focus.

A simple test.. is not just about respect or disrespect.... it is about communication. Can one read what is said and comprehend it. People take time to write their thoughts and feelings down... Can the person take the time to read it and comprehend it? It reflects much to me on their communications skills... and depending on the manner they send their email... it could express more.

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RE: simple test - 8/28/2005 3:48:05 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: KnightofMists
Telemarketers???!! well that is a rather silly comparison... my phone number doesn't tell people not to call mmm but maybe yours does.... I would say this isn't even comparing apples to oranges... mmmmmm maybe a nuts to fruits comparison.

To me it's the same in that it's random strangers trying to hook into you for more information. It's an analogy, all analogies have flaws and limits, there's no perfect analogy.

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In fact, they are very polite when they send their emails.... but at the same time they are showing that they don't read or comprehend what is being said in the profiles and as a result just don't show respect to what is there.

And so what's the big deal? Are you just curious why this is? You've been around long enough to see the bi-weekly "why aren't people answering emails/sending emails the way I want" threads to know it's just how internet life is.

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"email are just emails...". mmmmmmm no!

On one level, YES. If I said "words are just words" Yes on a very real level that's what they are. They have NO inherent value in them. Whatever value we give to them is our own choice, whatever power emails have over us it is because we put it there.

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Effective communication is difficult to do well at the best of times and thanks for assisting me in proving that point.

I'm just not sure what your entire point of starting this thread was? Dorks don't read or understand profiles and do what they want anyway. No kidding.

I just think we spend far too much time wrapped around what others should do or wondering why people aren't acting we think they should- it ALWAYS leads to disappointment.

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We can choose for ourselves what is important to focus on and what not to focus.

Well the good news IMO is that if you're biggest concern is guys sending emails, you're life is pretty good.

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Can the person take the time to read it and comprehend it? It reflects much to me on their communications skills... and depending on the manner they send their email... it could express more.

Sure. Everyone screens their emails and responses.

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RE: simple test - 8/28/2005 4:06:03 PM

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Why are you worrying about 'testing' doms on this site? With two subs here I would have thought you had your hands full.

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RE: simple test - 8/28/2005 4:27:28 PM

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I don't believe I said I worry about it... wonder yes .. worry mmmmmm no.... as far as my hands full well sometimes my hands are free when I lock them in a room together... they are good and um self-entertainment *g*

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Why are you worrying about 'testing' doms on this site? With two subs here I would have thought you had your hands full.

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RE: simple test - 8/28/2005 5:54:58 PM

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KoM Sir I understand completely where you are coming from. When I was still with MR I had a similar requirement yet I was constantly getting e-mails or IM's I found it was best just to ingnore them as it was not worth either of ours time or effort to inform them other wise.

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RE: simple test - 8/28/2005 8:45:47 PM

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quote:

It never fails to amaze me and I am sure it the same with others. My girls both reflect in their profiles that anyone wishing to contact them to send and email to myself first. of course the emails still come and we just laugh about it. But, what really is interesting is the nicely put and polite emails that are sent to the girls about how nice their profile is etc and if you would like to chat please just send a message. I keep wondering about these nice polite individuals... I wonder if they realize that their inability to respect what is said in my girls profile is a huge reflection of their integrity or lack there of. Why would they believe that any one choose to give them self to such a person when they continuely show a lack of ability to respect a girls limit that is the property of someone else? Do so many fail to see the wolf in sheeps clothing? or am I just being a cynic?

First of all, if you don't want your girls to receive emails from other disrespectful people, why allow them to have a profile that accepts email at all? Silly question I am sure but an obvious one.

Second, since when does contacting someone and saying nice profile etc. denote misconduct to the point of saying someone lacks integrity or is a wolf in sheeps clothes? Yes, they either missed or ignored your request to email you first before contacting your girls, but that isn't a crime. Sometimes being nice is just that, being nice.

This issue isn't really all that earth shattering... is it?

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RE: simple test - 8/29/2005 4:20:17 AM

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As one of Knight's girls, I would like to add my thoughts to this thread. My Lord has set a limit in our profiles. A limit that many feel they can ignore and not abide by. If that person is willing to violate a limit that is simple to follow, then what evidence do we have that they would respect other limits that are of more consequence to us, limits that have been set by our Lord to protect our boundaries? From some of the posts I have read here, the message I received is that because the limit has no value to you it is okay for it to be violated.

It is an email and not of monumental importance, but it is also a first impression and important because you may never get the opportunity to make a second. Everything that we do in life speaks to our character. In the online world, your character is shown through the words you use to communicate with. Something as simple as the email that you send in response to a profile on a website, shows your character. Did you take time to effectively "listen" to what was written in the profile? If not, why should the person think that you would effectively listen to anything else that they say?

These are the perceptions that we get when someone sends us an email saying, "nice profile, want to chat?" The person does not respect limits that are set and does not take the time to comprehend what is said. Not a crime no, but certainly not something that will gain my respect or the respect of the House.

Knight's kyra

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RE: simple test - 8/29/2005 11:01:55 AM

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Yes, too what many have stated,,,,,,,,they don't read the entire profile!

Now, as far as the wolf in sheep's clothing...well, that sounds like me?

However, I can't help it if I'm attracted to sheep! I'm just a baaaaaaaaad boy.

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RE: simple test - 8/29/2005 11:32:37 AM

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Hello Sir KnightofMists,
I know you ask the Masters, but I just had to say WAY TO GO SIR!!!
I think what happens is they see a photo, or age & size they are interested in and don't actually read the profiles. You're right to assume they are lazy, non-detail oriented, and not real Dom's looking for subs. They seem to me to be horny wanna be's hiding behind the position of a Dom and pulling their own puds as they can't get anyone else to.

I'm glad a Master is offended by these losers too.
Thank you for your posted annoyance. It's a wonderful one.
Sincerely,
sub suzanne

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RE: simple test - 8/29/2005 1:41:18 PM

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ORIGINAL: fastlane

Yes, too what many have stated,,,,,,,,they don't read the entire profile!

Now, as far as the wolf in sheep's clothing...well, that sounds like me?

However, I can't help it if I'm attracted to sheep! I'm just a baaaaaaaaad boy.

sooooooo it was you in the field the other day as I drove by... and here I thought i was seeing things *w* lol

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RE: simple test - 8/29/2005 1:46:14 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Gauge

First of all, if you don't want your girls to receive emails from other disrespectful people, why allow them to have a profile that accepts email at all? Silly question I am sure but an obvious one.

Second, since when does contacting someone and saying nice profile etc. denote misconduct to the point of saying someone lacks integrity or is a wolf in sheeps clothes? Yes, they either missed or ignored your request to email you first before contacting your girls, but that isn't a crime. Sometimes being nice is just that, being nice.

This issue isn't really all that earth shattering... is it?

Fuckin' A bro.

If you let your slave have a profile, they're gonna get email - deal with it.

My slave's profile is clear about her being owned, and she regualrly gets shit like "would u liked to be owned pretty 1?" and crap like that. Plus she gets like 4 "pussy-feelers" a day: "Wow, lovely pictures, good for you and your Master and oh if you ever want to chat
please feel free to IM me."

Hey, it comes with the territory. She has an email in box, people are gonna send her email.

And MistofAvalon, wtf is up with all the damn "mmmmmmmm" shit you keep typing? It sounds idiotic.

Oh, and EM2's analogy was spot on. You have phone, yer gonna get phone calls. You have an email inbox, yer gonna get emails. If it makes you cry, I'd suggest deleting the profiles.

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RE: simple test - 8/29/2005 3:00:02 PM

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I jsut thought i'd note how absure all of this is....attacking other people's posts and such...becasue you don't agree...where do we get our balls to chastize or critisize anyone for their thoughts and opinions....unless they're directly attacking you? I mean..well..

Yes i understadn the irritation with the goofs who're sending the emails...but what do we hope to accomplish by complaining about it in such a forum as this...are they going to stop..i think not...it won't deter those who're determined to be ignorant and well..irritating.

I also get the opposite pov...that this is a silly thread...and if you have an email box..you'll get emails..

the point that was trying to be made i think is that the OP is irritated by the lack of attentivness of the trolls and wanna-be pussys who irritate and offend everyone..a valid complaint...however often articulated.

Everyone who decided to attack the OP's post...if you're so offended to write things about how silly it is...if you can let it bother you..why post at all..why not pass the thread up in favour of something more agreeable?

to end..I sympathize with the OP and His...and all ou other yahoo's*grins* no offence..but...grow up.

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RE: simple test - 8/30/2005 9:21:02 AM

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Just an opinion, but I rather enjoy the emails that miss receives. I've instructed her to forward the interesting ones to me for my amusement. I'm perfectly well aware that my relationship is in no danger from the trolls, so their notes seem more funny and sad to me than offensive. If the mood strikes, and it's a particularly presumptuous or silly email, I'll write the person back on miss' behalf in order to let them down 'gently'; it's a pastime of mine.

They almost never reply to me, though. Wonder why that is.

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