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RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? - 1/21/2008 4:02:45 AM

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The science would agree that female promiscuity is part of our biological makeup. From the article http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/02/070210170428.htm

"Competition may also affect sperm count, say the authors. When men spend more time away from their partners (time that their partners could have spent with other males), the number of sperm in their ejaculate increases upon their next copulation. In one study, the authors note, simulated phalluses that most closely resembled the human penis removed an ejaculate-like substance from an artificial vagina. This could potentially signify that that the penis developed its shape to act as an anatomical squeegee.
But sperm competition does not solely take place in the realm of our biological makeup. According to the authors, many sexual behaviors such as deep copulatory thrusting may function to remove rival sperm. Accordingly, sexual partners report that men thrust more deeply and quickly into the vagina following allegations of infidelity. The same periods of separation that increase sperm number in male ejaculates may also help to explain the increasingly lustful feelings human males develop after long periods of time apart from their mate. That is, the human male may want to copulate as soon as possible as insurance against possible extra-pair copulation."

Another study indicates that female promiscuity may evolve a healthier immune system: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/11/001109152702.htm

The best of both worlds is to have a monogomous whore! It certainly explains why so many men get aroused over calling their partners terms of endearment like 'slut' or 'whore' within a loving and stable relationship.

To those who see "Love" as simply chemical reactions and that nothing exists unless scientifically proven, the science suggests that female promiscuity was part of our evolutionary success story.

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RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? - 1/21/2008 5:18:53 AM

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Don't care. Doesn't matter who they were with before, or how many others - it matters that they're disease free (important if they've had a lot of experience, depending on the type of relationship), and what our relationship becomes when we're together.

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RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? - 1/21/2008 5:45:46 AM

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Well Said!

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RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? - 1/21/2008 8:24:30 AM

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I'm not really sure if what people do in their teen years is really a good place to judge them..

Considering you're only two years away from your teen years, damn near almost all your impirical data is based on what you did in your teens and what you saw your classmates do.

The teens I know who date a lot have better people skills than the teens I know who are nerds. Having two teens, I can judge fairly well. The two girls I know who haven't been without a boyfriend in three years are not cheapened by their popularity. I'd be thrilled beyond belief if in ten years one of them decided to date my son again and they got married. And her having 20 boyfriends in the meantime wouldn't mean she was cheap or settling. It would mean that she had sufficient experience of all kinds of people to be able to choose well.

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RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? - 1/21/2008 8:29:41 AM

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The teens I know who date a lot have better people skills than the teens I know who are nerds.

unfortunately, having been one of those nerds it's true...lol. though that wasn't out of a lack of interest. even in high school i was running towards the kink/alt end of the spectrum and i think i scared most of the guys and i wasn't out yet so there was no chance of a girlfriend.

though now that i am dating i'm doing okay for myself. it works out in the end.

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RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? - 1/21/2008 8:53:07 AM

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The teens I know who date a lot have better people skills than the teens I know who are nerds. Having two teens, I can judge fairly well. The two girls I know who haven't been without a boyfriend in three years are not cheapened by their popularity. I'd be thrilled beyond belief if in ten years one of them decided to date my son again and they got married. And her having 20 boyfriends in the meantime wouldn't mean she was cheap or settling. It would mean that she had sufficient experience of all kinds of people to be able to choose well.

Dating a lot, and sleeping around are not the same thing either.

I have seen my son's friends, some nerds, some not, it does not seem to impact their ability to find dates. Nerds just date nerds. My son is kind of nerdy (even if he is big and handsome, 6 foot 4), he has had several girlfriends...

I do not think of popularity as being synonymous with being sexually active is all.

Also, when my son brings home a young woman, my last thought is to how many guys banged her in the past. Nor did I raise my son to judge women by the amount of sex they have had.

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RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? - 1/21/2008 9:01:15 AM

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I dont think a whore is defined? I try to keep sex out of the picture when dealing with subs, and am able to deal with the bdsm aspects rather than the sexual side. Many subs can't however.

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RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? - 1/21/2008 9:04:24 AM

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My eyes have rolled back in my head about as fair as they can over this thread. A twenty year old falling all over his words and continually falling in love with his own ideas.... YAWN! I'm forty and finally found some amount of sexual emancipation. I spent the first forty years of my life being sooooooo earnest, because I was afraid what people would think about me (this thread is giving me post tramatic stress... lol). Come back to me in twenty years and tell me if you're still in love with your ideas and ideals. Tell me that you haven't grown or changed. And for god's sake, we need to stop rationalizing our sexual experience. I love being in charge of my body, my seuxality, my life. So sue me.

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RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? - 1/21/2008 9:06:38 AM

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Well, if your eyes are rolling back in your head, the whorishness is obvious; ain't it?

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RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? - 1/21/2008 9:12:10 AM

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And for god's sake, we need to stop rationalizing our sexual experience.

The biological imperative is pretty overwhelming. Every social scientist, psychologist, and medical doctor would tell you that. It is pretty humorous that there are some that would state being sexual is unhealthy, when as a matter of fact, there would be far less people on planet Earth if it weren't so damn imperative to mate. Through out history people had sex no matter the consequence, even under threat of stoning. Tells ya how high on the list of needs it is, right under food, water, and shelter for a person in their reproductive years.

And for those who think of humankind as being superior to their animal friends, um, ok, perhaps we are more "intelligent", but we have biological instincts and needs like any other organism. To think otherwise is just illogical. Yes, you are right, applying logic to sex just doesn't work, because if we were going to be completely logical about it all, we wouldn't have sex unless we wanted offspring that we could put to work for economic advantage... any other reason to mate would be illogical

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RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? - 1/21/2008 9:12:17 AM

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Well, if your eyes are rolling back in your head, the whorishness is obvious; ain't it?

DAMN it! You found me out. Now my inner slut is in retreat again.

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RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? - 1/21/2008 9:16:11 AM

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And for god's sake, we need to stop rationalizing our sexual experience.

The biological imperative is pretty overwhelming. Every social scientist, psychologist, and medical doctor would tell you that. It is pretty humorous that there are some that would state being sexual is unhealthy, when as a matter of fact, there would be far less people on planet Earth if it weren't so damn imperative to mate. Through out history people had sex no matter the consequence, even under threat of stoning. Tells ya how high on the list of needs it is, right under food, water, and shelter for a person in their reproductive years.

And for those who think of humankind as being superior to their animal friends, um, ok, perhaps we are more "intelligent", but we have biological instincts and needs like any other organism. To think otherwise is just illogical. Yes, you are right, applying logic to sex just doesn't work, because if we were going to be completely logical about it all, we wouldn't have sex unless we wanted offspring that we could put to work for economic advantage... any other reason to mate would be illogical

I just meant we need to stop rationalizing our sexuality according to some puritan ideals. It only reinforces the idea that there is a magic number, that there is an ultimate morality, etc. I'm all for looking at emperical data, it's interesting. But... for pete's sake, freedom is priceless.

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RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? - 1/21/2008 10:00:00 AM

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Don't care. Doesn't matter who they were with before, or how many others - it matters that they're disease free (important if they've had a lot of experience, depending on the type of relationship), and what our relationship becomes when we're together.

agree aslong they are loyal in the relation they have now

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RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? - 1/21/2008 10:03:11 AM

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The difference between a whore and a bitch?.....a whore will fuck anyone....a bitch will fuck anyone but me!

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RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? - 1/21/2008 10:08:53 AM

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CL, you seem to think that people cannot do different things throughout their life and change their behaviours according to different time frames.

Here is an example of how my life played out
for 16 to 19 was sexually promiscuous
19 to 21 married I was totally monogamous, he screwed around-- left due to physical and mental abuse

21 to 24 I was 100% celibate -- was busy as a single mom with infant son, focused on going back to school and abtaining a career and raising my child

24 to 28 promiscuous, I wanted to sex but no commitments

28 to 35 entered a common law relationship, sexually it was far for stimulating a quickie and roll over to sleep, sexually my needs were not filled but I stayed throughout monogamous, breakdown of the relationship had to do with his laziness and irresponsibility when he started talking about quitting his job and living just on my paycheck I threw him out.

35 to 38 I became celibate again my son was a teen and getting into all sort of trouble and I was struggling financially trying to keep from losing my house on just one income at a time

38 to 43 became sexually active again

43 to 48 celibate again, rotating layoffs were occuring, I launched a home based business to help make ends meet and took to doing volunteer work which left me no free time and was cutting into sleep time and leaving me very run down, started by cutting out the volunteer work, as the business grew, but the business was growing too fast and I found out I could not keep out to the demands of the business and still work my fulltime job that at the time require me to work 6 days a week, so I folded my business and took time just for me to relax and recover.

at 48 I got involved in on temporary relationship to get a feel for the lifestyle and current working on forming a monogamous hopefully longterm relationship as that is what I want now, I am not looking for playmates at this time of my life.

I have no problems organizing my life into compartment choosing to be commited when I want to be, promiscuous at other times to fill sexual needs or to explore my sensuality or celibate when I want to focus on other areas of my life

To assume once a person is promiscuous that they always will be and that they therefore will have no self control is ridiculous, I am very much in control of my life and I can choose to live it according to my needs at the time, and I am also able to make very serious commited monogamous relationship and stick it out even when my sexual needs are not being met.

But now I am at a stage where I want the commited monogamous relationship but I also want to be sure my sexual needs will be met unlike in my common law with some one who is more dominant then myself unike my spouse then at the time and I want the control that existed in my marriage without the abuse. My past experiences with different individuals and their personalities/sex drives/activitities is partly is what is helping me to determine what I want now in a partner to form that longterm commited satisfying monogamous relationship, without all the experiences I have had and actually participating with the person before making a commitment is how I will know if I found the person that will truly meet my needs. The collarme end of this site and alt is filled with married men who ending marrying woman with limited experience who possibly at the time felt they could be openmind sexually but when it came down to actually doing could not , most are good wives in every other way but unable to fill their husbands needs sexually, so after years of trying the men get frustrated and try to fill thse needs behind their wives backs on sites like these. Yes you may find your virgin to marry who may say she has an interest in BDSM like yourself , what happens if her sex drive does not match your own or she gives things a try and then feel morally repulsed by, or decides she does not enjoy sex, are you planning to stick by her remaining monogamous till death do you part even if it means you will never feel sexually fulfilled maybe lucky if you can have sex with her twice a month? Your not going to be able to make her enjoy if she does not or has a mental block about, if you try to force you could end up being accused of rape. This is the risks you run into with very inexperienced sexual partners especially if both of you are virgins going into as you will not know whether the 2 of you will prove to be sexually compatible. And I have met men who thought they where on the high end of sexual prowness and thought they were highly skilled but in reality were very far from.

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RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? - 1/21/2008 11:46:38 AM

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Thank you eyesopened, this is an awesome post. I have been trying to tell people this for years :)

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RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? - 1/21/2008 11:50:20 AM

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I dont care as long as she is MY slut , My whore ... *S*

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RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? - 1/21/2008 12:07:41 PM

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[/quote]

It's not a matter of hard numbers, it's a matter of ratios.

Take the number of people that you did not know their name beforehand, and add one half of a point for those in which you did not ask their name afterwards, and divide that by the total number and multiply by 100. If that number is higher than your age, you're a whore.

In the title you said "whore", but in your question you said "easy". Going back to the numbers from your first calculations, take the number in which you neither asked their name beforehand nor afterwards, multiply that by the age in which you first had sexual intercourse. If the number has three digits to the left of the decimal point, then you are easy.

So, you can be a whore AND be easy too, but just because you are a whore does NOT mean you are easy.

Cali

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Punching the numbers...darn it why didn't I pay attention better in math class...punching the numbers...

Based on my calculations...3,256,789.08!

I think I either multiplied wrong, or, I am a whore who is easy! Darn it! I'm going back to the calculator!

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RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? - 1/21/2008 12:09:02 PM

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CL, you seem to think that people cannot do different things throughout their life and change their behaviours according to different time frames.

Naw, I just think life experiences tend to stick with people. That if someone as more into sex when they're younger, they're likely to still be more into it later as compared to someone who wasn't.

It's a stastical thing.. not a this-is-the-only-way-it-could-be thing. Like.. if you drink milk past the expiration date, it's more likely to make you sick than milk that isn't. But, still, that doesn't mean it's going to make you sick.

I really think people are reading into my comments and observations on small factors and thinking I mean something huge..

Slutiness vs. non-sluttiness doesn't strike me as all that big of a deal.

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RE: Do you care if your slave is a whore? - 1/21/2008 12:13:21 PM

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I just meant we need to stop rationalizing our sexuality according to some puritan ideals. It only reinforces the idea that there is a magic number, that there is an ultimate morality, etc. I'm all for looking at emperical data, it's interesting. But... for pete's sake, freedom is priceless.

Just to make sure.. you should know these two things..
1. CL is an athiest. No god, no heaven, no hell, no black cats, no vodoo dolls, no magik love spells. No puritans.
2. CL isn't saying there's something morally wrong with sleeping around. He's just not attracted to girls who do.

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