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RE: on Non Masculine Masters - 1/24/2008 4:53:26 PM

zhouwuatsien

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ORIGINAL: BOUNTYHUNTER
Those that control only in the bedroom are in my humble opinion is just a forceful lover nothing more nothing less.Why would one want to be in control one minute and not the next..

This is going to be my signature.

These words are almost heroic

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For Clarification purposes. I am very controlling outside of bed, but not forceful. But outside of bed I'm more like a team leader. I'm not really demanding as much as I say things like "This is the plan, it's a very serious plan, now we need warm milk and baked cookies to succeed in this plan. I've calculated that the most efficient manner in which we must do this, is that I have to go out and get milk, while you bake cookies"

"Commence"

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RE: on Non Masculine Masters - 1/24/2008 5:46:19 PM

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ORIGINAL: zhouwuatsien

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If anyone were to cut me off, treat me like a simpleton or in general use tactics that were designed to shake my self confidence or self esteem, they would soon find themselves whining about how emasculated I made them feel.

Well, you're also Dominant... An extremely hot dominant. So it's not like you'd find a situation where anyone would even try that...

Is there?

There is.

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RE: on Non Masculine Masters - 1/24/2008 6:25:20 PM

zhouwuatsien

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

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ORIGINAL: zhouwuatsien

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ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch
If anyone were to cut me off, treat me like a simpleton or in general use tactics that were designed to shake my self confidence or self esteem, they would soon find themselves whining about how emasculated I made them feel.

Well, you're also Dominant... An extremely hot dominant. So it's not like you'd find a situation where anyone would even try that...

Is there?

There is.

o.O*

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RE: on Non Masculine Masters - 1/25/2008 2:42:11 PM

BossyShoeBitch

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ORIGINAL: zhouwuatsien

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

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ORIGINAL: zhouwuatsien

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ORIGINAL: BossyShoeBitch
If anyone were to cut me off, treat me like a simpleton or in general use tactics that were designed to shake my self confidence or self esteem, they would soon find themselves whining about how emasculated I made them feel.

Well, you're also Dominant... An extremely hot dominant. So it's not like you'd find a situation where anyone would even try that...

Is there?

There is.

o.O*

zhouwuatsien,

The girl in both pictures is me.. SimplyMichael is my Sir/Master/Daddy/boyfriend/partner and the man who makes me omlettes every day.. He makes me feel like the hottest, most intelligent, capable and sexiest woman on the planet.. We inspire each other to continue to grow as people and he expects great things from me..

The person who I described in my previous post just got served with divorce papers.

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RE: on Non Masculine Masters - 1/25/2008 4:59:04 PM

DesFIP

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ORIGINAL: zhouwuatsien

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I will say that the pictures don't scream dominance to me. Because you're looking down, not looking the camera in the eye. And because your hair is covering your face. That says insecurity to me. I might switch to a pic with you looking into the camera, hair pulled back and smiling. Confidence is essential.

Hair back, wide smile...

...I think the temptation to try my best to look extremely dopey would be too great if I tried that. After each picture I'd try to make myself look more and more ridiculous...

...I actually want to do that now. xD

Displaying a sense of humor is a great thing. People who are insecure don't make fun of themselves. But confidence is the one thing that most subs say they respond to. Be realistic about what you do and don't have skill in, but have confidence in the skills you do have. Confidence is a major turn on.

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RE: on Non Masculine Masters - 1/26/2008 2:21:08 PM

Vampyrefledgling

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Men (and I'm speaking for myself) who dominate in a non-forceful manner, as you put it, are incredibly attractive, more so than the ones who dominate based solely on physical control. Anyone can do that. It is the ability of a Dom to infiltrate his submissive's mind, to be able to dominate her mentally as well as physically that creates a true D/s relationship. I have nothing against totally physical relationships, but they fade and something else has to replace that. Intellectual domination is far more powerful, to me at least, than being controlled physically (though hopefully the two go hand in hand).

~Fledgling

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RE: on Non Masculine Masters - 1/26/2008 4:42:52 PM

tigerstyle

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I rely on emotions and intellect, and I'm as butch as they come. Big subtle tricky manipulative neanderathal.

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RE: on Non Masculine Masters - 1/26/2008 6:38:05 PM

collaredncontent

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I am older [by two years] and taller [by 4''] than my Master but I have no trouble submitting to him. He's a lot more reserved than I am and highly intellectual. He doesn't get my obedience from fear of punishment but from my utter and undying respect for him. Height and age don't matter to me, though if you saw us together you might think I was the dominant since I'm more outspoken and physically more dominant looking. But look closely and you'll see a collar on my neck and I know very well how to heel when he tells me to.

-Brian.

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RE: on Non Masculine Masters - 1/26/2008 9:22:55 PM

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~~fast response~~

i like that Daddy is taller than i am. but if you saw us out on the street, you'd probably not think of us as Master/slave. he treats me with courtesy and respect, and as though i were his Lady....as i am. he is courtly and gentlemanly...and when you see him whisper in my ear, it may be "you look cute" or it may be "over the back of the couch when we get back to the house, slave!" and either one makes me happy to be his.

its not what you do that makes you a dominant, or not. its who you are.

kitten

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RE: on Non Masculine Masters - 1/27/2008 12:20:48 AM

PrizedPosession

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Master isn't what most people would deem as big but in the end it's up to the person inside and their personality. Master may be small for His age (and makes up for His weight with His hair

) but He is very strong (physically and mentally) and has a domineering presence to me. Even before we decided to be in a D/s dynamic He was always in charge and i was always comforted in His ability to lead.
Just be yourself (and from the looks of it you have no problem with it) so just carry your head high and show confidence and charisma. You seem like a very sensible and intellectual person so don't worry whatever you are looking for it will come.
-bobcat
(sorry if none of that was helpful)

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RE: on Non Masculine Masters - 1/27/2008 9:20:27 AM

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ORIGINAL: zhouwuatsien
However, I want to ask the entire field of Submissives on Collarchat what they think of Masters or Dominants or Slave Owners that Dominate in a non forceful Manner. (Except in Bed, in which case it's completely physically forceful). Masters who depend and rely on emotions and intellect. They don't cut off a slave's words and force their dominance because they look very mean but because their own words will have already predicted or countered the slave or submissive's thoughts with a better idea.

They don't dominate by only ordering and commanding with simple words. But they dominate the woman (or man) like a puppeteer. Leading them almost subconsciously without lies or deception. So in tune with how the submissive feels and how to change her feelings that they are like commands themselves.

M. Zhouwuatsien,

Consider that , being a fairly 'masculine' type myself, I envy guys that can pull off androgynous sometimes. Nobody's happy, but I am generally content with myself.

More to your point, while I enjoying flinging a girl around on occasion, and (as in any other social interaction) sometimes sheer overpowering force is the quickest solution, generally I'd hope my style of dominance is just what you seem to be describing.

Stay Warm,
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RE: on Non Masculine Masters - 1/27/2008 9:45:55 AM

fullofgrace69

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i prefer Doms who are can make me submit through words alone, if i can have a giggle with them, if i can respect them and if W/we can have a proper conversation about everything under the sun not just D/s BDSM than i will be far more interested in being with them, than if its a simple case of me Dom you sub on yer knees. i've met a fair few of those at events and they get the same response, its not exactly rude, but it does have some of my dom mates rolling around in the corners. i like Doms with confidence, and as a girl whose a bit on the larger side and who is reasonably tall i personally prefer a guy to be taller than me and yeah i guess you'd say 'butch' that's what im attracted to though, and that isn't to say that i wouldn't be in a D/s relationship with an amazing Dom if He was none of those things. i look at the person rather than the package. and mostly what i look for is someone that i respect from the word go, and someone that doesn't make me want to poke them in the eye. most Doms annoy me and it takes a lot to get me to consider submitting to someone. i'm starting to think my so called friend was right, maybe i aint so submissive after all LOL :D

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