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LadyEllen -> RE: marriage and true relation (1/26/2008 8:40:34 AM)

Catia - at the risk of making myself sound like I'm worth listening to....

Go and read my posts 27 and 33 on page 2 of the thread "male fantacies" on the Off Topic board - have a think about them and then let us know how applicable they are to you? (either or both)

Because - there is nothing wrong with being a crossdresser and enjoying your fantasies, but what youre talking about is something quite different. Gender, sex and sexuality are often related - but they are different things and all I'm interested in is making sure you dont make the biggest mistake of your life, which is how I read the situation I'm sorry.
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catia -> RE: marriage and true relation (1/26/2008 8:53:22 AM)

desolate I did not find articles. what is to be done?




LadyEllen -> RE: marriage and true relation (1/26/2008 9:08:50 AM)

Well, here are the relevant bits from the two posts;

Post 27
………..a need in the male for the ideal female. Since, believe it or not, women are people too, they are rarely able to live up to this ideal and more importantly rarely want to either - because it is a highly sexualised ideal, constructed from male sexual fantasy. When combined with a fetishistic approach, (another broad motivation) whereby one can have the person by way of their accoutrements, the male embarks upon liason with his ideal female by way of making himself as close to her as possible by way of adoption of her attire and her manner and her behaviour.

Post 33

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Lotus, I can't understand how a man can be "submissive."



Its no big mystery Popeye - its utimately just one form of reproductive strategy in a huge range of such strategies - whether conciously or not, and quite a successful one at that, to give yourself and all you have and do to the woman with whom you aspire to reproduce. By placing everything at her disposal and showing devoted submission to her wishes, the male seeks to demonstrate that he will make a good mate, always attendant to her (and thence her offspring's) needs.

But it is purely a reproductive thing - submissive males are usually not so submissive to other males and often not so submissive to just any female but those he has identified as attractive - ie worth reproducing with.

The puzzle with crossdressers (as per this thread) is that its not always clear whats going on with their submission - but I feel that for some it has at least something to do with offering up themselves even more completely, by a sort of ritual castration that says their manhood belongs to her too.

 
The question is Catia - are you confusing your desire to submit to a woman (a reproductive strategy) with your erotic enjoyment of crossdressing as a means of acquiring a woman (a fetishistic association), and coming to the conclusion that the fulfilment of both is to transition permanently - thereby submitting forever to a woman, even if she is in fact made from your body and your imagination?

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camille65 -> RE: marriage and true relation (1/26/2008 9:15:57 AM)

catia I am sorry but I have absolutely no advice for you, your questions and needs are far out of my usual world.However I clicked on your links and I wanted to tell you that I truly enjoyed your artwork, there is passion and beauty in them. Thank you for sharing that, and I do wish I had words of wisdom or advice but I haven't.




catia -> RE: marriage and true relation (1/26/2008 9:22:02 AM)

Dear
It is not one of the principles of base of love,"even if she is in fact made from your body and your imagination? "
that think you of Madam of it?

Know that for me you are superior come all predominant women and at all times

Thanks
slave catia




catia -> RE: marriage and true relation (1/26/2008 9:31:01 AM)

Dear Camille thanks you. You live in a splendid place. If you saw my job, the most radical, I explore that of mind. I like no more this world. I shall be able to live in these places that you photograph so well.
Thanks, I respect too much the domineering women, the women subjected not to give what I have to meileur in me.
Thanks
slave catia




catia -> RE: marriage and true relation (1/26/2008 9:44:05 AM)

Help me please Mistress




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