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Taik -> RE: Boys... Speak up and tell us what is it that you want! (9/3/2005 9:44:58 AM)

1) What motivates you to be submissive?

The enjoyment and happiness she gets from being in complete control, and the pleasure she derives from exerting it inside our consensual relationship.


2) Why do you identify yourself that way?

Becuase I don't see a way to give her that complete control without submitting to her, and consiously submitting is a natural conclusion to reach in order to achive and enjoy things that we both seek in this type of relationship.


3) What are you searching for in a Domme?

Someone who is confident in themselves know's what they want and what they expect both in and out of this lifestyle. Someone looking for a life partner to share everything with both in and outside of the lifestyle as well. Has an idea or plan of where she wants to go in life and how she might get there. Enjoys travel, the outdoors, and intellectual conversation. Who is willing to respect my bounds and comfort level and work with me one them, as we explore her intrests in the lifestyle, while occasionally dabbling in mine. But mostly, someone who will let me put her first and before myself, while allowing me to be myself and and make my own decissions. I don't want to be a doormat.


4) What are the qualities and attributes that you look for in a Domme?

I think I covered most of these above, but *shrug* Intelligance, careing attitude, willingness to explore and try new things. Has ideas of thier own and is more then willing to share them and even discuss them. Strong character and knows what she wants from her sub, and is willing to tell him instead of having him jump through hoops for those answers.


5) What is the hardest part of being a male sub?

Convincing people I don't want to be a doormat, that I have a mind and I want to use it. Seperating myself from the doormats, and the guys who just want wanking material. Convincing people that one can still be submissive, while being able to make thier own choices and act on thier own accord.


6) What kind of challenges do you face when attempting to approach a Domme?

Mentioned some of these already too, seperating myself from the crowd of doormats and fantasizers. My location and the understanding that I travel a lot, so many Domme's want someone close and in thier local area, not that I don't understand that and there isn't anythign wrong with it, my life just isn't condusive to it at this point.


7) What are you biggest fears when meeting a Domme?

In reguards to BDSM, that she will take things to far. In reguards to everything else, that ackward feeling of nervousness at first meeting and the inital breaking of the ice. Also behavior.. Do I hug her? Do I kiss her? Is it ok to take her hand crossing the street? What things does she consider socially acepptable and what is she comfortable with, in reguards to where we are in the relationship.


8) What do you believe to be your best strengths and attributes? And do you feel they are often overlooked?

My mind, my handyman skills, my ability to acomplish tasks that I havn't done before. I think only the last one gets overlooked, although the second one does too, but through no fault of her, more along the lines of the fact that the oppertunity to use it never presents it's self.

Taik




LadyAngelika -> RE: Boys... Speak up and tell us what is it that you want! (9/3/2005 11:01:22 AM)

Thanks for this Taik :-)

You know, if you boys put some of this stuff in your Intro letters to Dommes, you might actually increase your chances! I've found in and everyone of you priceless in your responses.

- LA




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Boys... Speak up and tell us what is it that you want! (9/4/2005 6:16:25 PM)

Thanks LA for starting this thread, and thanks to you men for sharing your views. Overall, there were no surprises, since I've read many of your posts on other topics. :)

The only surprise is the fear of being physically *injured*. I have to say that displays tremendous common sense.....when I think of how many times I have immobilized someone who barely knew me, and what *might* have happened, I have to say it's a reasonable fear.

Now! When are you guys moving to MY area?




funNtrainable -> RE: Boys... Speak up and tell us what is it that you want! (9/4/2005 9:27:31 PM)

what motivates me?

well, I seem different than most, I guess. I am normally very dominant. I don't talk too much. I just dominate. I guess when she is dominant, it reduces pressure on me. I can follow directions, and later, I feel stupid as hell, but at the time it seemed like a good turn on. well, then she laughs about it later, and that sort of equalizes things. later, that laughter helps me relax, and it helps her relax. she has a real sense of control, and I feel like I can just be.




imtempting -> RE: Boys... Speak up and tell us what is it that you want! (9/4/2005 9:59:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus


Now! When are you guys moving to MY area?


When you pay for my ticket to America :D




LadyAngelika -> RE: Boys... Speak up and tell us what is it that you want! (9/5/2005 9:27:47 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: funNtrainable

what motivates me?

well, I seem different than most, I guess. I am normally very dominant. I don't talk too much. I just dominate. I guess when she is dominant, it reduces pressure on me. I can follow directions, and later, I feel stupid as hell, but at the time it seemed like a good turn on. well, then she laughs about it later, and that sort of equalizes things. later, that laughter helps me relax, and it helps her relax. she has a real sense of control, and I feel like I can just be.


A lot of men I meet have dominant personalities and yet like to meet a woman who will trump that, at least for a given period of time. I wonder why you feel stupid as hell afterwards.

- LA




Dracironsgirl -> RE: Boys... Speak up and tell us what is it that you want! (9/7/2005 10:44:04 AM)

i have always been submissive, it gives great pleasure in pleasing another. it is just who i am, always will be.
i'm with my first (and last) Master and a newbie to BDSM, so i don't know the lifestyle but i know that this is where i'm suppose to be~ i never fit into vanilla life, always new i didnt belong there, but didnt know about BDSM untill this year and i'm finally able to be the person i always had to hide from the world, it's a great feeling to belong somewhere finally. did that make any sense at all ?




BalletBob -> RE: Boys... Speak up and tell us what is it that you want! (9/7/2005 2:18:30 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

Pollux inspired me to ask this question. So here goes.

This question is addressed to male subs more specifically but in collarme tradition, everyone is welcomed to chime in. I'm usually not so heterosexist and gender specific but there seems to be a disconnect between Dommes and male subs. More often the not, you hear about the expectations that Dommes have of male subs. Let's turn the tables now and see what kind of responses we get.

1. What motivates you to be submissive?

I feel that someone else to control me, and guide me.

2. Why do you identify yourself that way?

I have trouble deciding for myself, what to do or wear, when it comes to B&D.

3. What are you searching for in a Domme?

Someone who can tell me what to wear or do, that would have fun and enjoy doing things like that.

4. What are the qualities and attributes that you look for in a Domme?

A sence of humor, and one that loves to Torment and have fun.

5. What is the hardest part of being a male sub?

Finding a Mistress, who is into Cyber.

6. What kind of challenges do you face when attempting to approach a Domme?

Not knowing if they have the same likes and dislikes as you.

7. What are you biggest fears when meeting a Domme?

If she will like me, or find me trusting.

8. What do you believe to be your best strengths and attributes? And do you feel they are often overlooked?


I am sincere, and try to do what ever wold please a Mistress. I am only happy if they are happy.

Now talk boys!! ;-)

- LA





pogoSTIK -> RE: Boys... Speak up and tell us what is it that you want! (9/9/2005 9:05:17 PM)

before i start, please note i consider myself more of slave than a sub...

What motivates you to be submissive?

i have an attraction to being an object of pleasure or use. i like the feeling of surrendering to someone. it makes me hot :)

Why do you identify yourself that way?

i am not really sure why. all i can say at the moment is because im a dirty whore :) haha

What are you searching for in a Domme?

well im not searching to be owned 24/7... i am looking for someone who can understand that i have my own life outside of this and am the type of person to not let it affect my "real-life". this may seem black and white, but its hard to give context here.

What are the qualities and attributes that you look for in a Domme?

one who respects limits, but pushes other areas to new heights.

What is the hardest part of being a male sub?

not making too much noise at night during an online session not to wake up other people in the house!

What kind of challenges do you face when attempting to approach a Domme?

havent had any yet... when i meet the right one, it works

What are you biggest fears when meeting a Domme?

i dont think about that stuff.

What do you believe to be your best strengths and attributes? And do you feel they are often overlooked?

havent had enough experience to know how to answer that.




lonewolf05 -> RE: Boys... Speak up and tell us what is it that you want! (9/10/2005 10:19:45 AM)

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A lot of men I meet have dominant personalities

=====

yesssssss

i am STILL struggling with my alpha side....it's my inner core......and i have SO much trouble being docile...

wolf




truesubboy -> RE: Boys... Speak up and tell us what is it that you want! (9/10/2005 11:36:34 AM)

What motivates you to be submissive?
The mental aspects of BDSM are what I find to be most appealing. The feeling that I'm giving someone else pleasure, or enabling them to live out a desire or fantasy is what I love about being a submissive. What thrills me in a session is making Mistress happy and seeing that her needs are met.

Why do you identify yourself that way?
All of my fantasies and dreams revolve around serving Dominant Women and being subservient to them. From day one, I was never the typical male that is just trying to get laid and "conquer" as many women as possible. I am a submissive because that is my mindset.

What are you searching for in a Domme?
I have to somewhat selfish here and say because serving a Domme would make me happy. I want to gain experience in learning how to properly serve a Mistress and be useful to Her. I think I have a lot to offer a Domme if given the chance and I want to explore this further. I've served Pro Dommes and played with some laidies privately, but I would love to have the opportunity to serve a Domme on a discrete, regular basis.

What are the qualities and attributes that you look for in a Domme?
Dommes who are real, honest, safe, sane, consensual and are open to training a (kind-of) novice are the main qualities.

What is the hardest part of being a male sub?
Finding a Domme when you're not totally out. There are SO MANY other male subs to "compete" with for such a small number of Dommes. I suppose it would be easier if I posted a full face pic and really got myself out there, so to speak, but for now, I'm just not ready to be out.

What kind of challenges do you face when attempting to approach a Domme?
Trying to make myself stand out among the hoards of other male subs.

What are you biggest fears when meeting a Domme?
If i'll measure up to Her expectations and she'll want to continue seeing me.

What do you believe to be your best strengths and attributes? And do you feel they are often overlooked?
Believe it or not, I'm for real, I'm honest and sincere, and I treat Women with respect. I'm not some HNG with short term goals that are all about myself. I really have a lot to offer a Domme and it's hard to articulate that.




denimknight -> RE: Boys... Speak up and tell us what is it that you want! (9/10/2005 12:06:37 PM)

I'm very pleased that so many have decided to take the time to respond to your questions. However, with so much data at Your disposal now the question remains: Have You been able to define any patterns, figure out any generally applicable theme regarding the submissive male, come to any conclusions based upon the results of this study?




LadyAngelika -> RE: Boys... Speak up and tell us what is it that you want! (9/10/2005 12:28:22 PM)

Thank you for your input pogoSTIK & truesubboy. It is much appreciated.

quote:

ORIGINAL: denimknight
I'm very pleased that so many have decided to take the time to respond to your questions.


Me too!

quote:


However, with so much data at Your disposal now the question remains: Have You been able to define any patterns, figure out any generally applicable theme regarding the submissive male, come to any conclusions based upon the results of this study?


Well this has confirmed some of my own thoughts and perceptions. I do however think that all the men who identify as submissives do so for their own personal reasons. Of course there are some fears (fear of rejection) and desires (someone who cares) that are similar. I think this is not dependant on one's kink orientation or gender. Morrissey said it best. "I am human and I need to be loved, just like everybody else does". Then again, I always thought Morrissey made the perfect shy little sub boy... way to melancholic though... anyhow, I digress.

What I liked most about this was just seeing the responses with such reflection and honesty. I don't think I've heard anything new here. But what is important is that it came across as sharing as opposed to a rebutal. Much more productive.

- LA




frenchpet -> RE: Boys... Speak up and tell us what is it that you want! (9/10/2005 6:06:08 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

I'm a complete vanilla (was just submissive to my gf...) so I can't answer all questions but I'll try anyway, as these are interesting questions.

What motivates you to be submissive?
Why do you identify yourself that way?
I can't find an answer to this. It seems like I'm trying to explain why do I have blue eyes. I just do. I have -almost- always desired to obey a Woman. Kneeling before a Woman seems something natural to do, so does kissing a Woman's foot.

What are you searching for in a Domme?
What are the qualities and attributes that you look for in a Domme?
Confidence in Herself, Her beauty and Her authority.

What is the hardest part of being a male sub?
Finding a Domme girlfriend, or at least one very inclined to domination.

What kind of challenges do you face when attempting to approach a Domme?
The hardest is always to stand out from the crowd, Domme or not Domme. And I think I'm better at that in real life [&:].

What are you biggest fears when meeting a Domme?
I haven't so far. If I were to meet a Domme... I guess I'd be afraid that she'll do things we didn't agree about, while I can't defend myself.

What do you believe to be your best strengths and attributes? And do you feel they are often overlooked?
I don't think I have any. I would have said that I'm very honest and sincere, but that's probably my main problem, not a quality. Or it feels like it.
...I have a good oral technique, does that count as a submissive's strength ?




funNtrainable -> RE: Boys... Speak up and tell us what is it that you want! (9/10/2005 10:40:52 PM)

LadyAngelika asked why I feel stupid as hell later. well, that is when my partner makes me do stupid things. Things I would not normally do or allow unless of course I was being dominated. I guess it is that whole humiliation thing going on.




LadyAngelika -> RE: Boys... Speak up and tell us what is it that you want! (9/11/2005 8:37:26 AM)

Thanks for your input frenchpet. Know that many men aren't submissive overall but rather only in a relationship. That's actually a very attractive quality in my opinion.

- LA




LadyAngelika -> RE: Boys... Speak up and tell us what is it that you want! (9/11/2005 8:38:47 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: funNtrainable

LadyAngelika asked why I feel stupid as hell later. well, that is when my partner makes me do stupid things. Things I would not normally do or allow unless of course I was being dominated. I guess it is that whole humiliation thing going on.


Ah ok. I understand now. As long as this feeling is something that you want, then it's cool. But know that humiliation doesn't always have to make you feel stupid.

- LA




frenchpet -> RE: Boys... Speak up and tell us what is it that you want! (9/11/2005 3:32:55 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

Thanks for your input frenchpet. Know that many men aren't submissive overall but rather only in a relationship. That's actually a very attractive quality in my opinion.

- LA

I'm not sure what you mean by submissive overall. Submissive means submissive to someone. I only submit at home, to one person. Outside, it's a completely different thing. When I am outside with female friends (which means, when I am outside) I am always a bit protective, especially in a city that is not perfectly safe. I'm not a big guy, but confidant enough to keep the scum away (with some really tense moments, but they would have been tragic if I had not been there). I also always try to be considerate with all my female friends (I don't really have male friends, so it's a bit redundant in my case), but although this is due to my desire to please Women, it's not the same thing as being submissive. So far I've always been submissive in intimacy only.

Any thought, Doktor Freud ? [;)]




sjacket -> RE: Boys... Speak up and tell us what is it that you want! (9/11/2005 5:50:39 PM)




Answering some....


What motivates you to be submissive?
For me, it is not a matter of motivation. My submission is part of my being, part of my life. It is like being motivated to breathe- it just happens. And I don't want to die. My motivation for sharing my submission is the happiness I get from serving my Mistress. If I can make Her life easier and better, then I have accomplished something positive.

Why do you identify yourself that way?
As I said- it's me. I can't stop it. I identify myself as a submissive servant, rather than a slave.

What are you searching for in a Domme?
Thankfully, I have found all that I was searching for. She is strong, smart, great sense of humor (I love hearing Her laugh), doesn't micro-manage, similar tastes in music, Sadistic, inventive.....

What is the hardest part of being a male sub?
In the lifestyle- the hardest part was often being taken seriously. All the fakes and wannabes take their toll. In r/t the hardest part is "coming out". A submissive male must be pussy whipped, or gay, or just broken somehow. Men are supposed to be the ones in charge. And I really don't think the "painslut" part of it should be tossed in right now. Most would never be able to figure that part of it out.

Challenges and fears when approaching a Domme were often based on personal insecurities. I quickly realized that the best approach was honesty. That simple. Communicate honestly. Be who you are, and be honest about it. From what I see while reading some other male sub's profiles and posts- most could use a copy of a good book on manners/etiquette. But that's for another thread (or two, or fifty).

There we go- not too long, and maybe a little different perspective on a thing or two.


*edited for glaring typo*




LadyAngelika -> RE: Boys... Speak up and tell us what is it that you want! (9/11/2005 6:20:49 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: frenchpet

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

Thanks for your input frenchpet. Know that many men aren't submissive overall but rather only in a relationship. That's actually a very attractive quality in my opinion.

- LA

I'm not sure what you mean by submissive overall. Submissive means submissive to someone. I only submit at home, to one person. Outside, it's a completely different thing. When I am outside with female friends (which means, when I am outside) I am always a bit protective, especially in a city that is not perfectly safe. I'm not a big guy, but confidant enough to keep the scum away (with some really tense moments, but they would have been tragic if I had not been there). I also always try to be considerate with all my female friends (I don't really have male friends, so it's a bit redundant in my case), but although this is due to my desire to please Women, it's not the same thing as being submissive. So far I've always been submissive in intimacy only.

Any thought, Doktor Freud ? [;)]


When I get approached by someone who doesn't know me from Eve and offers to submit to me, I figure they are overall submissive. It's a major turn off for me (though I will acknowledge it may be a major turn on for some). Some people have socially submissive personalities and that's just how they are hard wired. I have a friend who claims that she can't help but submit to dominant personalities because it is what is most natural for her.

I've often said that a good sub boy is like a guard dog. He is stands proud, is impressive and intimidating somewhat to others, ensures my safety and comfort, is alert and ready for anything, is at my feet and obeying my every command. So I understand exactly where you are coming from.

- LA




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