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GreedyTop -> RE: Hair-ed Limits... (1/27/2008 2:29:05 PM)
FR I'm so TOTALLY jealous of you folks whose hair grows quickly! Mine does to about the length in my pic, but beyond that..it j.u..s...t t....a.....k.......e........s SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO long....sigh

YourhandMyAss -> RE: Hair-ed Limits... (1/27/2008 2:50:20 PM)
To me total means everything 100 percent of me and my life, there's nothing I wouldn't allow them to control, that they couldn't control or change so in my opinion if you're holding back area's they can control like hair length an color and stuff, you're not giving total control. so there for it's not total slavery in my opinion. Now it doesn't mean they're not a good slave, it just means to me it's not total slavery. quote: ORIGINAL: CrimsonMoan . You can still be a good complete and total slave and still want to maintain control over your hair.

YourhandMyAss -> RE: Hair-ed Limits... (1/27/2008 3:07:43 PM)
On a whim about 7 months ago I got ass length hair cut clear up to just below my jawline, and my hair's naturally curly amd has a lot of natural body so it started curling like mad all by itself, and with it that short I REALLY looked like a child, it wasn't a good look for me lol. Plus not to mention it wasn't as easy for me to care for so short, cause I couldn't dry it as easily as I had before so drying was either grabbing handfulls and scrunching in the towl which hurt, or doing the towl on head and scrub thing which snarled it. quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross It doesn't work for that chicks frame or face, or it really starts to look yucky over time and needs trimming- but orders and orders and they happily go along.

TemptingNviceSub -> RE: Hair-ed Limits... (1/27/2008 4:17:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: nothing4ever Wowie! I am amazed at how this thing has exploded into spews of rudeness & condescending comments! Thanks to everyone who replied to this with an honest answer.. I think we both got a little bit of an answer to our question. Alas this has been a reminder as to why I do not post.. because people cannot remain civilized. In the end it is just hair.. take that as you would like! Again I offer you all a sincere thank you for your input! N4E To you it is just "hair"...as most realize, all people have different value systems..what is valued by one does not necessarily mean it is valued by another..The idea however is the ability to not be flippant when one person is asking another to give up something they highly value, as not a "big deal"..thus you then devalue the difficulty they went through to comply..or become disillusioned when they find they cannot....Tempting

breatheasone -> RE: Hair-ed Limits... (1/27/2008 4:24:30 PM)
I am not allowed to cut my hair....and must ask if and when i feel I need a trim.

ownedgirlie -> RE: Hair-ed Limits... (1/27/2008 4:30:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TemptingNviceSub To you it is just "hair"...as most realize, all people have different value systems..what is valued by one does not necessarily mean it is valued by another..The idea however is the ability to not be flippant when one person is asking another to give up something they highly value, as not a "big deal"..thus you then devalue the difficulty they went through to comply..or become disillusioned when they find they cannot....Tempting Hi Tempting, I think, when putting life priorities into perspective, hair (for me) does not rank amongst those losses that should cause trauma. I remember standing with my mother before a mirror, who, at the age of 50, weighing in at 125 with beautiful dark hair down to her waist, was being treated for breast cancer and now found herself bald and puffy from medication. It was traumatic for her, naturally. She mumbled, "Who is this person? I don't even know her anymore." I realized I did not want to put all my value into things like hair and clear skin. Last year when everything in my house was stolen, including family heirlooms and photos, etc., I came to realize things are just things. So to me, things are things and hair is hair, but human spirit, love, and compassion are the real priorities. I can live without the rest. It is not that I mean to devalue what others place value on, it is that for me, losing something that will come back to me is not an issue. In a year's time I lost my Dad, two uncles and an aunt, my house, all my possessions, my health and my job. I've recovered from that loss, but the idea of crying over hair, after all that other loss, is not something I personally relate to. I respect this is not the case for everyone, and I respect their right to value their hair. But that's where I'm coming from when I think "just hair."

breatheasone -> RE: Hair-ed Limits... (1/27/2008 4:34:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie quote: ORIGINAL: TemptingNviceSub To you it is just "hair"...as most realize, all people have different value systems..what is valued by one does not necessarily mean it is valued by another..The idea however is the ability to not be flippant when one person is asking another to give up something they highly value, as not a "big deal"..thus you then devalue the difficulty they went through to comply..or become disillusioned when they find they cannot....Tempting Hi Tempting, I think, when putting life priorities into perspective, hair (for me) does not rank amongst those losses that should cause trauma. I remember standing with my mother before a mirror, who, at the age of 50, weighing in at 125 with beautiful dark hair down to her waist, was being treated for breast cancer and now found herself bald and puffy from medication. It was traumatic for her, naturally. She mumbled, "Who is this person? I don't even know her anymore." I realized I did not want to put all my value into things like hair and clear skin. Last year when everything in my house was stolen, including family heirlooms and photos, etc., I came to realize things are just things. So to me, things are things and hair is hair, but human spirit, love, and compassion are the real priorities. I can live without the rest. It is not that I mean to devalue what others place value on, it is that for me, losing something that will come back to me is not an issue. In a year's time I lost my Dad, two uncles and an aunt, my house, all my possessions, my health and my job. I've recovered from that loss, but the idea of crying over hair, after all that other loss, is not something I personally relate to. I respect this is not the case for everyone, and I respect their right to value their hair. But that's where I'm coming from when I think "just hair." I admire your strength and character. From that perspective I can easily see why you would say "just hair".

ownedgirlie -> RE: Hair-ed Limits... (1/27/2008 4:39:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: breatheasone I admire your strength and character. From that perspective I can easily see why you would say "just hair". Thank you, breathes. It is not to say no one should value their hair...it's just the perspective of how I see it. It's also how I view Mr. Wonderful's ownership of me, meaning I would certainly rather have hair on my head, but if he removes it, he removes it. As it is, I'm going to the salon on Friday. He has already given me instructions of how to have it done. No head shaving. [8D]

TemptingNviceSub -> RE: Hair-ed Limits... (1/27/2008 4:47:01 PM)
Dear Owned..I fully understand..:0)..and agree with your value system for the most part..Think upon it like this...There will always in life be something lost that is either inconcievable or irreplaceable..such as loved ones, health etc..(and please do not feel I am minimizing your losses, hugs)..but to minimize lesser losses, still does not make the loss less felt...it is after all a loss....ex:..a person comes into the hospital for knee surgery, experiences a great deal of pain for them..another person comes into the hospital for heart surgery and experiences a great deal of pain..do you then say to the one with knee surgery "quit your whining after all it is only knee surgery and not heart surgery"???..Does the loss of hair compare to the loss of a parent?..NO!...but does it have too??...Tempting

breatheasone -> RE: Hair-ed Limits... (1/27/2008 4:53:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: swtnsparkling quote: A hard limit would be for me to have to grow my hair LOL!!! because I said the exact same thing once. it is now to the top of my shoulders LOL me too....I am 44 and this is the longest my hair has ever been.... I'm diggin it though....LOL [:)]

darchChylde -> RE: Hair-ed Limits... (1/27/2008 4:54:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie Hi Tempting, I think, when putting life priorities into perspective, hair (for me) does not rank amongst those losses that should cause trauma. I remember standing with my mother before a mirror, who, at the age of 50, weighing in at 125 with beautiful dark hair down to her waist, was being treated for breast cancer and now found herself bald and puffy from medication. It was traumatic for her, naturally. She mumbled, "Who is this person? I don't even know her anymore." I realized I did not want to put all my value into things like hair and clear skin. Last year when everything in my house was stolen, including family heirlooms and photos, etc., I came to realize things are just things. So to me, things are things and hair is hair, but human spirit, love, and compassion are the real priorities. I can live without the rest. It is not that I mean to devalue what others place value on, it is that for me, losing something that will come back to me is not an issue. In a year's time I lost my Dad, two uncles and an aunt, my house, all my possessions, my health and my job. I've recovered from that loss, but the idea of crying over hair, after all that other loss, is not something I personally relate to. I respect this is not the case for everyone, and I respect their right to value their hair. But that's where I'm coming from when I think "just hair." i also admire all that you've lost and how you've recovered and grown from that pain. But, i too have had my losses (which i will not go into right now, it's in my profile for all to see) and i look at things a little differently. For me, my hair is a part of that which i've always saw as a part of me and one of the few things that were part of my life way back when that i can hold on to. But even more than that; it is something which i have control over, something tangible that i can reach up and feel or look in the mirror and see. My hair is a reflection to me of my growth and persistance; and when i first decided to become part of the world again, it was a promise that i made to myself. It wasn't until i finally came up for air that i was able to decide to grow my hair out again and stick with it. So yes, it is something i could lose and most likely grow back; but for myself and for many like me, i need something i could more easily see than the human spirit, love and compassion. In those times that i am missing Ma'am, my family or those that i have lost; my hair is still there. When i have a hard time feeling loved or worthy, just because of my own pain and drama and not due to others' actions; my hair is still there to remind me of how far i've come. Just being able to care about anything, even if it is only hair; is a huge step from where i've been. In the end, it is still a matter of perspective. What one person's been through is not what another has, and how one has dealt with it is not how another person has. What matters is not the how we've overcome, but that we have.

sexyred1 -> RE: Hair-ed Limits... (1/27/2008 4:57:08 PM)
Tempting...you make too much sense, believe me. You will never be able to convince everyone of your point, however. There will always be someone who feels compelled to belittle those who disagree with them and say that something like being attached to ones hair, is trivial in the grand scheme of things like death or loss of job, etc. I lost my job on Friday and that is huge loss. I still maintain that losing my hair would be just as big a loss. I don't ask anyone to prioritize my opinions of what represents loss or importance to me; they are my opinions.

ownedgirlie -> RE: Hair-ed Limits... (1/27/2008 4:59:09 PM)
Tempting, I completely understand what you are saying, although that's probably something my Master would say, [8D] This is why I respect other people's right to have their own experiences.

ownedgirlie -> RE: Hair-ed Limits... (1/27/2008 5:01:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: darchChylde In the end, it is still a matter of perspective. What one person's been through is not what another has, and how one has dealt with it is not how another person has. What matters is not the how we've overcome, but that we have. I agree, and I did not write what I did to convince anyone that my perspective should be everyone else's; only to explain where I was coming from. I'm glad you were also able to overcome what you have. I applaud your efforts. Edited to correct spelling.

darchChylde -> RE: Hair-ed Limits... (1/27/2008 5:06:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie I agree, and I did not write what I did to convince anyone that my perspective should be everyone else's; only to explain where I was coming from. I'm glad you were also able to overcome what you have. I applaud your efforts. Thank you, and please let me clarify that i understood what you were saying; i merely took your post to make a contrasting point.

ownedgirlie -> RE: Hair-ed Limits... (1/27/2008 5:09:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: darchChylde Thank you, and please let me clarify that i understood what you were saying; i merely took your post to make a contrasting point. No clarification necessary, as I understood that, but thank you for considering that. I see this exchange as two individuals sharing their personal perspectives. Nothing offensive intended or taken. :)

AquaticSub -> RE: Hair-ed Limits... (1/27/2008 5:13:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ForcefuIHands I think they should add this to the limits lists, and in curiosity, I want to know if anyone else has stories related to their locks, or the loss thereof. So, question, girls: Would you let a Dominant choose your hairstyle? We'll say they make a salon trip out of it, a professional cut, and not just grabbing a pair of scissors. Cheers! Yes and no. Like walking over hot coals, yes I'll do it but we've got to do it right. I very freely admit to being very vain about my hair and a lot of me gets tied up into how my hair looks. I have cut it as his request before, when we had just gotten together I cut off about... six inches... because it was bothering him. When the shorter length still annoyed him while snuggling, we realized that we would have to cut off more than I could willingly part with and it was decided to be a non-issue. However, he does still have control over my hair. He wants me to be happy with how I look so our compromise was to find a stylist that we both love and trust.

TemptingNviceSub -> RE: Hair-ed Limits... (1/27/2008 5:14:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie Tempting, I completely understand what you are saying, although that's probably something my Master would say, [8D] This is why I respect other people's right to have their own experiences. LOL..ach!..~teasing mode~..you have probably heard it enough that you quote HIM in your sleep...[:D]..Tempting

ownedgirlie -> RE: Hair-ed Limits... (1/27/2008 5:15:58 PM)
Ha! No comment! [:D]

AquaticSub -> RE: Hair-ed Limits... (1/27/2008 5:17:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ForcefuIHands Wow, talk about a hot thread, all of a sudden. I never realized hair was taken quite so personally. Why do you think this is? I am amused by the "accept me for me" responses, especially since hair is, in fact, a renewable resource, as mentioned before. Is your hairstyle such a deeply intimate expenditure of one's very being? Is it the last bastion of control you can't let go of? I don't quite make the connection between hair and penis-chopping, but maybe that's a guy thing. I have been through a few different hair combinations, both cut and color. Maybe it is a control thing. Many orthdox religions do not allow women to show their hair. We know that even in slavery, African woman took great pride in their hair and, when I studied African art, had the chance to study some drawings of how slave women wore their hair. Women have wrapped pearls and other baubles into their tresses. Complex hairstyles have long been a way to show social class and refinement. It's been refered to as a woman's "crowning glory". Women have died rather than undergo chemo that might save their lives simply because they will lose their hair. Dumb as it may be... yeah... for a lot women it is.

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