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RE: Subspace..... - 3/13/2008 1:39:37 PM   
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Actually....I believe that all women do...it just takes a talented man to find it...



I thought that some did and some didnt? I mean the female climax is kinda natures accident we dont need to have them to procreate. one womans experiance doesnt equate to all, some men have two penisis did ya know that?


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RE: Subspace..... - 3/13/2008 1:40:51 PM   
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Umm, I just wanted to pop back in and say thanx to those who enjoyed my post.  *bows out before the shit starts flying again*


LOL.

I know I came across like a bitch...cunt what ever you wanna call Me...Im okay with that.

Fact is....arrogant, ignorant, egotistical, small minded, livin in the dark ages, wastes of space...should NOT speak on things that they do not have and HAVE NOT experienced first hand.

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RE: Subspace..... - 3/13/2008 1:47:30 PM   
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Actually....I believe that all women do...it just takes a talented man to find it...



I thought that some did and some didnt? I mean the female climax is kinda natures accident we dont need to have them to procreate. one womans experiance doesnt equate to all, some men have two penisis did ya know that?




In all actuality...and after having given this some thought on My own time,....I can say that yes, it is accepted that some do some dont, tho the jury remains out, and most likely will remain out until some one volunteers to have their vagina's dissected...and done so while they are alive and awake to feel it.

What I can tell you is...it is commonly accepted among women...and maybe this is the women that I have spoken with, that there is a G spot...and that in fact it is not ALWAYS reachable...due to being close to that time of the month, inadequate stimulation....or like clits...just being that small.

What I can also tell you is that it all depends on the woman and her mind set, the determination of the man...and how willing and patient he can be with the woman he is with.

Now...here again...most men dont have that kind of patience.



All in all this post was set to be about the existance of sub space...and I got wayyy off track by the small minded demeaning ignorant things being said by the male of the species that decided we needed their wisdom...

In any event....you could be right....and I could be wrong....which ever....I think I made it clear that the men that decided to join in on this need to realize that they are 1) Doms and 2) dont have vaginas...and 3) are cold, and incapable of normal emotion which would be what I think in all likely hood, needed to create the atmosphere needed for either subspace or the reaching of the G-spot....

I know as a woman Im not going to let some clear cut cold ass robot have any idea where My anything is....why would I give some one like that any kind of control over Me.

Okay...Im done rambling....Its My kids birthday...I got better things to do.

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RE: Subspace..... - 3/13/2008 8:41:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ok, pete and SailingBum. I'll say it one more time. Just because you've never been there ( G-spot, sub-space, Bora Bora or whatever) doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It only  means you've never been there. End of story. Google, read "experts" or whatever, it dun mean jack shit. It's always a mistake to deny another persons authentic experience, even though yours' may be different. It's arrogant and plain stupid.

Now, I'm not here to flame or fuck with either of you. Been there, done that and got the t-shirt. So, if y'all feel a need for a battle of wits, I ain't going there. I decline to cross swords with unarmed people.

Finally, have some respect for the people who , from their own experience, have a different opinion from yours. Simple shit,dudes.

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RE: Subspace..... - 3/13/2008 8:57:13 PM   
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Ok, pete and SailingBum. I'll say it one more time. Just because you've never been there ( G-spot, sub-space, Bora Bora or whatever) doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It only  means you've never been there. End of story. Google, read "experts" or whatever, it dun mean jack shit. It's always a mistake to deny another persons authentic experience, even though yours' may be different. It's arrogant and plain stupid.

Now, I'm not here to flame or fuck with either of you. Been there, done that and got the t-shirt. So, if y'all feel a need for a battle of wits, I ain't going there. I decline to cross swords with unarmed people.

Finally, have some respect for the people who , from their own experience, have a different opinion from yours. Simple shit,dudes.




aw...I think Im in love...a man that can back a woman!


WOOHOO!

those two need a support group. At least then they wont be so all alone.

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RE: Subspace..... - 3/13/2008 9:04:57 PM   
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Like I said ask "any doctor"  Which I have quite a few actually... cuz I was curious.  They all told me the same thing.  "no such thing"

BadOne


I'd love to talk to these "so-called doctors" (were they PhD's in geology or something?)  *rolls eyes*   It's not the Bermuda Triangle for heaven's sake...  women and lots of men know EXACTLY where it is.  I have one - it's not my imaginary friend, I know it's there.

I have doctors in my family (including OB/gyn's) as well as a few in my close circle of friends, and none of them has said that the G spot doesn't exist.  I asked a couple of them after seeing this post and they all tended to agree that some clinicians are on the fence as to what the spot's function is other than a pleasure source, but none of them said they knew another medical doctor to say that the G spot absolutely does not exist. 

The best response I got from two of them I asked was "Sounds like some male 'doctor' is trying to make himself feel better by negating the G spot's existence because he doesn't know how to find it, or if he did, didn't know what to do with it once he got there."       (Sounds more like the truth than anything else.)

I know my body inside and out, and I, for one, KNOW beyond a shadow of a doubt that my G spot exists bc I've felt it for myself, and I know what its purpose is.  Better yet, Daddy knows where my G spot is and knows damn good and well what to do when He touches it.   

So, yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus...  and for damn sure, Mrs. Claus has a G spot.   

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RE: Subspace..... - 3/14/2008 12:40:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok guys and cjan!! We all tend to focus and over emphasize illusions and sometimes feel good. There are many things that can make us feel good, relationships, looking forward for something buying that new sports car or whatever. All theses and other thinks can release chemicals in our head that can make us feel good. We can call them anything we want and i don't care what they are called....... i am only certain for one thing that people tend to over emphasize there excitement and give them names. i would prefer to keep my feet on the ground and keep my head on my shoulders. i have been seeing a local Mistress and i do get those funny feelings when i see Her. i hate to over emphasize it, and i just consider it as "another exciting feeling"

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RE: Subspace..... - 3/14/2008 12:47:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well i feel sorry for you medicine girl. i wonder how much you really tried to help your own self before resorting to your doc?? eee....(crunching on my carrot).. what's up doc?? (Bugs bunny)

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RE: Subspace..... - 3/14/2008 1:36:35 AM   
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Ok guys and cjan!! We all tend to focus and over emphasize illusions and sometimes feel good. There are many things that can make us feel good, relationships, looking forward for something buying that new sports car or whatever. All theses and other thinks can release chemicals in our head that can make us feel good. We can call them anything we want and i don't care what they are called....... i am only certain for one thing that people tend to over emphasize there excitement and give them names. i would prefer to keep my feet on the ground and keep my head on my shoulders. i have been seeing a local Mistress and i do get those funny feelings when i see Her. i hate to over emphasize it, and i just consider it as "another exciting feeling"
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RE: Subspace..... - 3/14/2008 4:18:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: imber

i have often heard of this mentioned, but since i am still really brand new to this, i would like to know what  subspace is, and can it last for more than 3-4 days???


In my experience, feeling nervous and jittery prevents me from reaching sub space.  What does get me there is a combination of physical and mental relaxation.   When I quit worrying about what might happen, when I am able to accept rather than anticipate, when I can absorb the sensation instead of tense against it, I float, I fly,  I am in sub space.  It’s not caused by pain or bondage or ~name an activity~, it happens when I am in the right frame of mind. 

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RE: Subspace..... - 3/14/2008 4:47:39 AM   
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Ok guys and cjan!! We all tend to focus and over emphasize illusions and sometimes feel good. There are many things that can make us feel good, relationships, looking forward for something buying that new sports car or whatever. All theses and other thinks can release chemicals in our head that can make us feel good. We can call them anything we want and i don't care what they are called....... i am only certain for one thing that people tend to over emphasize there excitement and give them names. i would prefer to keep my feet on the ground and keep my head on my shoulders. i have been seeing a local Mistress and i do get those funny feelings when i see Her. i hate to over emphasize it, and i just consider it as "another exciting feeling"



-tosses two quarters down at your feet as well-

See My post to good ole SB up there about what thats for....incase you need to know.

With any decent Domme youll need to gain some practical experience in finding a G spot....instead of being on a time limit....and not worrying about it.



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RE: Subspace..... - 3/14/2008 4:49:26 AM   
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Ok guys and cjan!! We all tend to focus and over emphasize illusions and sometimes feel good. There are many things that can make us feel good, relationships, looking forward for something buying that new sports car or whatever. All theses and other thinks can release chemicals in our head that can make us feel good. We can call them anything we want and i don't care what they are called....... i am only certain for one thing that people tend to over emphasize there excitement and give them names. i would prefer to keep my feet on the ground and keep my head on my shoulders. i have been seeing a local Mistress and i do get those funny feelings when i see Her. i hate to over emphasize it, and i just consider it as "another exciting feeling"
++)

Shrugs and gives up on this one.

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LMAO....aint that the truth man.

Wait....if you cant make it drink....can you at least make it drown?


I almost feel sorry for what ever women have been spending their time with these two bobo's.

-shakes Her head-




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RE: Subspace..... - 3/14/2008 10:37:27 AM   
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WOW kirren you must be a genius to dispute a couple hundred years of medical research.  Using your logic since all girls have cunts they ALL should have G spots though most girls can't seem to find them.  things that make me go hmmmmmmmmm


Interesting how you can squeeze a couple hundred years of medical research into a maximum of 64 years isn't it?  Ernst Grafenberg first suggested it's existence in 1944,  the term G-Spot wasn't adopted til the 80s.

BTW, following your 'logic',  as all eyes have irises,  shouldn't they all be blue?  No Brown?  No gray?  No green?  ;)

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RE: Subspace..... - 3/14/2008 1:06:01 PM   
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WOW kirren you must be a genius to dispute a couple hundred years of medical research.  Using your logic since all girls have cunts they ALL should have G spots though most girls can't seem to find them.  things that make me go hmmmmmmmmm


Interesting how you can squeeze a couple hundred years of medical research into a maximum of 64 years isn't it?  Ernst Grafenberg first suggested it's existence in 1944,  the term G-Spot wasn't adopted til the 80s.

BTW, following your 'logic',  as all eyes have irises,  shouldn't they all be blue?  No Brown?  No gray?  No green?  ;)




YAY! Another voice of reason!

Welcome aboard Jay...youll find its quiet here. Not many of us....we have rum and a shuffle board deck...and grass skirt dancers at 7.

-snickers-


If you follow his logic just because we all have noses doesnt mean we have two nostrils either.

But....you gotta read that ass comment to understand...we'd have to drown em to get em to drink.

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RE: Subspace..... - 3/14/2008 1:26:54 PM   
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WOW kirren you must be a genius to dispute a couple hundred years of medical research.  Using your logic since all girls have cunts they ALL should have G spots though most girls can't seem to find them.  things that make me go hmmmmmmmmm


Interesting how you can squeeze a couple hundred years of medical research into a maximum of 64 years isn't it?  Ernst Grafenberg first suggested it's existence in 1944,  the term G-Spot wasn't adopted til the 80s.



Geez I clearly stated that there is no medical evidence of a g spot.  Im not going to disagree with all the girls who say they have one.  The sources that I cite are to my mind valid. According to the Journal of sex research just cuz a Dr Graf makes a claim that doesn't make it so.  His manuscript was rejected.

April, 1983": This manuscript was rejected by Clive Davis, editor of the Journal of Sex Research 
 
Here is the link folks do the research
http://www.drgspot.net/Hines.htm

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RE: Subspace..... - 3/14/2008 2:14:02 PM   
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Perhaps the G spot debate is best settled in simply recognizing that — regardless of “proof” — not every woman’s G spot is an erogenous zone.

To put this thought into perspective, consider that many people don’t have sensitive nipples and never experience a nipple-induced orgasm. Likewise, some men don’t get anything out of prostate play and will never realize a prostate-induced orgasm. It’s all highly individual. We can’t help how we’re made.

I wish that I could sugarcoat the situation, as a male colleague of mine recently did when he wrote, “At the end of the day, an orgasm is an orgasm is an orgasm...”

That’s easy to say if you’ve never had a female orgasm. I can tell you that there is nothing like the G spot orgasm, as there is nothing like the blended orgasm (climax due to stimulation of the clitoris and G spot). The key to sexual satisfaction is not in worrying about which hot spots you don’t have, but learning how to fire up the ones you do!

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,336572,00.html

and that about sums it up from my point of view

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RE: Subspace..... - 3/14/2008 4:56:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Im thinking its about time someone did a study of more than oooooh say 25 women, who arent afraid of their bodys reactions, or admitting to them..Kinseys report was done in 48 (53 for the fem part), sex was much taboo, admitting to it was tantamount to admitting to perversion or lack of morality and hardly a representation of the "general public", plus his techniques were questionable.
And while I have been  *triggered* by gynos to a certain step of "accidental" arousal, its usually too embarrassing for women to admit to it and what caused it.Three hours training my ass, they are doctors, they are not my idea of a fun petting event,  this from the article provided......"
Two years later, Goldberg et al6 examined 11 women, both to determine whether they had a G-spot and to examine the nature of any fluid they ejaculated during orgasm. The latter aspect of this article will be discussed later. To determine whether the subjects possessed G-spots, 2 gynecologists examined each subject. Both had been given a 3-hour training session on how to examine for the presence of a G-spot. This training consisted of “a special type of bimanual exam as well as a sexological exam where they palpated the entire vagina in a clockwise fashion.” Using this technique, they judged that 4 of the 11 women had G-spots."

Four out of the eleven.... hmmmmmmm not 0 out of 11, 4....kinda supposes that there is something there.
While im thinking that many women may NOT have them, or have had the opportunity to feel it....... from my "anecdotal" experience and it adds up to a whole lot bigger number than 25, lots of women do have them, and if people took the time to find it, without being clinical or uncaring the number would rise enormously. And yeah I would be the first to offer up my gspot for examination (as long as I dont have to die, and can choose the gyno to perform it.)
oh a link here, more up to date I think....
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19726444.100-ultrasound-nails-location-of-the-elusive-g-spot.html
nope not proof, more questions,
taking my gspot home now
Lucy


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RE: Subspace..... - 3/14/2008 6:39:13 PM   
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RE: Subspace..... - 3/14/2008 6:40:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would equate subspace to seeing the face of the divine.

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RE: Subspace..... - 3/14/2008 8:29:51 PM   
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I would equate subspace to seeing the face of the divine.


This is nice...  

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