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catia -> RE: question on lasted or permanent very long sequestration (2/3/2008 10:57:58 AM)
I undestand, sorry

Politesub53 -> RE: question on lasted or permanent very long sequestration (2/3/2008 11:34:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TexasMaam Ms Pandora is rightfully referring to both WW1 and WWII and is also correct if she's alluding to wars both prior to and since...... The French are notorious for having their asses saved by the blood of other nations - but they are also a brave sort of iconoclastic underground who never gives up the spirit of Freedom so let's adjourn the politics to some other board and let our little tranny ask their question about isolation of a slave and get back on topic. I'd really like to see a genuine response from someone, - Aakasha are you reading? - who has the experience with holding a slave in isolation long term. TM Thats a tad ironic seeing as France gave both military aid and finance in 1776. Not only that but Yorktown was mainly a French victory. "George Woodbridge summed up the Yorktown campaign in the following words: "The strategy of the campaign was Rochambeau’s; the French fleet was there as a result of his arrangements; the tactics of the battle were his; the American army was present because he had lent money to Washington; in total naval and military participants the French outnumbered the Americans between three and four to one. Yorktown was Rochambeau’s victory. " France also had over 1 &1/4 million killed and 4 million wounded in ww1. Hardly everyone else saving there arse is it ?

TexasMaam -> RE: question on lasted or permanent very long sequestration (2/3/2008 11:50:13 AM)
In World War II, the Battle of France, also known as the Fall of France, was the German invasion of France and the Low Countries, executed from 10 May 1940. The battle consisted of two main operations. In the first, Fall Gelb, (Case Yellow), German armoured units pushed through the Ardennes, to cut off and surround the Allied units that had advanced into Belgium. The British Expeditionary Force (BEF) and many French soldiers were however evacuated from Dunkirk in Operation Dynamo. In the second operation, Fall Rot (Case Red), executed from 5 June, German forces outflanked the Maginot Line to attack the larger territory of France. Italy declared war on France on 10 June. The French government fled to Bordeaux, and Paris was occupied on 14 June. After the French Second Army Group surrendered on 22 June, France capitulated on 25 June. For the German Axis, the campaign was a spectacular victory. France was divided into a German occupation zone in the north and west, a small Italian occupation zone in the southeast and a collaborationist rump state in the south, Vichy France. Southern France was occupied on 10 November 1942 and *France remained under German occupation until after the Allied landings in 1944*; the Low Countries were liberated in 1944 and 1945. < My mother was French and my father fought in WWII, and no, they didn't meet during the war. My French grandfather was executed by the Germans and my American Grandfather agonized at home while his son (my father) fought in the Battle of the Ardennes. I never said the French had no soldiers. I never said the French don't wage war. I simply agreed with Ms Pandora that historically France has not had the best track record for defending it's own. TexasMaam

Politesub53 -> RE: question on lasted or permanent very long sequestration (2/3/2008 12:13:45 PM)
Although France was occupied, many died resisting the Germans both at home and fighting in North Africa with the allies. Prior to that they had fought the English for a 1,000 years. Just before the War of Independence, France and Britain had the seven years war. This was fought on a world wide basis, but mainly in what is now America and Canada as well as in India. Historically the French have always defended their own, i agree that in WW2 tactics that the Germans had perfected in the Spanish civil war paid off, this doesnt mean the French didnt defend themselves. What else would you call the high numbers of dead in both world wars ?

TexasMaam -> RE: question on lasted or permanent very long sequestration (2/3/2008 12:19:50 PM)
With regard to WWI: The number of World War I casualties, both military and civilian, was over 40 million — 20 million deaths and 21 million wounded. This includes 9.7 million military deaths and about 10 million civilian deaths. The Entente Powers (also known as the Allies) lost more than 5 million soldiers and the Central Powers about 4 million. Russia, then France, then Italy, then the UK sustained the highest WWI casualties. Entente Powers Population Millions Military Deaths Civilian Deaths Total Deaths Military Wounded Australia[1] 4.5 61,928 61,928 152,171 Belgium[2] 7.4 42,987 62,000 104,987 44,686 Canada[3] 7.2 64,944 2,000 66,944 149,732 France[4] 39.6 1,397,800 300,000 1,697,800 4,266,000 Greece[5] 4.8 26,000 150,000 176,000 21,000 India[6] 315.1 74,187 74,187 69,214 Italy[7] 35.6 651,010 589,000 1,240,010 953,886 Japan[8] 53.6 415 415 907 Montenegro[9] 0.5 3,000 3,000 10,000 New Zealand[10] 1.1 18,050 18,050 41,317 Newfoundland[11] 0.2 1,204 1,204 2,314 Portugal[12] 6 7,222 82,000 89,222 13,751 Romania[13] 7.5 250,000 430,000 680,000 120,000 Russia[14] 158.9 1,811,000 1,500,000 3,311,000 4,950,000 Serbia[15] 4.5 275,000 450,000 725,000 133,148 South Africa[16] 6 9,463 9,463 12,029 United Kingdom[17] 45.4 885,138 109,000 994,138 1,663,435 United States[18] 92 116,708 757 117,465 205,690 France was later unable to defend itself against Germany in WWII. It took our boys to pull them back from the brink of anhiliation. Not that the French were ever very grateful. Perhaps their new French President can help soften the opinion of those of us stateside who aren't exactly Francophiles. He certainly has a lot to make up for with regards to France's international policies from 1964 - 2008. Today more than 60% of the French population is immigrant Muslim arab. I believe France is a lost cause, new president or not. TexasMaam

TexasMaam -> RE: question on lasted or permanent very long sequestration (2/3/2008 12:27:57 PM)
I would call those high numbers of deaths in WWI and WWII a lot of good men dying for sorry French asses, that's what. Just like a lot of good men today are dying for sorry Iraqis. Not one of them is worth a single American Soldier's life. God bless our Troops and keep them from harm. TM

Politesub53 -> RE: question on lasted or permanent very long sequestration (2/3/2008 12:40:36 PM)
As it happens i`m English and dont have much time for the French. I see WW2 though more as defeating Hitler and Facism than helping the French. The last French census in 2006 estinmates 10% of the population, so i dont know where you get your figure from. As for the French not being greatful, how far back do you go ? Certainly not to Yorktown. What i dont get is this, if someone post a question here, either a good one or a bad one. What has there country of origin got to do with it.

TexasMaam -> RE: question on lasted or permanent very long sequestration (2/3/2008 12:43:48 PM)
I get my figures from my cousin who is a news analyst in France for a major broadcast network. Actually, the poster's country of origin was only pertinent in that they were using a faulty webtranslator to try to ask their question, and then got flamed for even trying to post because the meaning wasn't clear. I'm hopping off of this thread so the OP can get back to their question about permanently isolated slaves. Have a good day, TM

SolangeRichards -> RE: question on lasted or permanent very long sequestration (2/3/2008 8:58:31 PM)
Still wondering what were the wars that France started and asked others to fight them for them were. France was not the aggressor nation in either World War I or World War II. They started neither war. In each of those conflicts their combined total of military and civilian deaths were higher than the same figure for the United Kingdom or the United States. In fact, in World War I, the total of military/civilian deaths for France exceeds the total for the United Kingdom and the United States combined....

DominaJayde -> RE: question on lasted or permanent very long sequestration (2/3/2008 9:35:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MisPandora quote: ORIGINAL: catia i hate freedoom Ah yes, that coming from a country where other people have fought your wars. That was uncalled for, in case you are unaware of your own history, if it wasn't for the French pulling your arses out of the fire during the War of Independence, the English would have overwhelmed you and the major deciding battle would have been lost. And your independence would have been shortlived. DJ

catia -> RE: question on lasted or permanent very long sequestration (2/5/2008 1:42:05 AM)
This is very curious, I you palace of séquestration and you talk about the war

sunshinemiss -> RE: question on lasted or permanent very long sequestration (2/5/2008 6:33:56 AM)
Catia Sometimes we talk like that. It is similar to a real conversation. Do not worry. Someone will answer you. You are right. It is strange. Good luck with your question. I have a question, too. What will you do if you can not find someone to give you this?

catia -> RE: question on lasted or permanent very long sequestration (2/5/2008 6:55:50 AM)
dear sunshinemiss I will continue to suffer catia

PanthersMom -> RE: question on lasted or permanent very long sequestration (2/5/2008 9:56:29 AM)
i don't see how you could do much else at this point catia, without a dominant to put you into a position where you live in isolation. you could choose to isolate yourself, but then how will you find a dominant? it's a catch 22 situation. do you do the best you can to self impose isolation and pray a dominant will fall into your lap? or do you live with the detestible condition of freedom until you meet a suitable dominant who claims you and gives you the life you desire? the choice is up to you. nobody said this would be easy. you may just have to live with this awful state until you can find someone. PM

catia -> RE: question on lasted or permanent very long sequestration (2/5/2008 10:57:03 AM)
i just seek the rigth Mistress for live under his guardianship. I seek and wainting alone.

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