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RE: On "Moderation" in all things ... - 2/3/2008 12:56:42 PM

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RE: On "Moderation" in all things ... - 2/3/2008 1:02:44 PM

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Nice try, Phin, but posts that are really awaiting approval can't be quoted and the thread title right above their post also says [Awaiting Approval].

I'm sure if you try hard enough, Mod XI might consider allowing you to experience the real thing. Then again, she's a busy woman as it is... I'd recommend not pushing her buttons.

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RE: On "Moderation" in all things ... - 2/3/2008 1:04:44 PM

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....You might not agree with how things are handled around here... I might not agree with everything, but I'd be hard pressed to make the intimation that we are given no respect.

And how exactly would you know that unless you were privy to every word ever written by the mods?

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RE: On "Moderation" in all things ... - 2/3/2008 1:04:54 PM

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~fast reply~

Free speech is rapidly becoming passe' Just an offhand thought, does anyone really believe a movie like Blazing Saddles could be released right now, or would it be banned for being racist, sexist, and quite a few other "ists". We have become too sensitive as a whole, and i personally do not know if it is simply sad, or frightening as well.

We have become bent on sanitation. People today no longer believe in the old addage if thine hand offends thee cut it off or if you do not like what the radio is saying turn it off. Instead if thine hand offends thee cut the other persons hand off and if the radio offends thee dont turn it off restrict the announcers freedom of speech instead!

Yes scary is right!

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RE: On "Moderation" in all things ... - 2/3/2008 1:14:33 PM

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quote:

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[Awaiting Approval]

Nice try, Phin, but posts that are really awaiting approval can't be quoted and the thread title right above their post also says [Awaiting Approval].

I'm sure if you try hard enough, Mod XI might consider allowing you to experience the real thing. Then again, she's a busy woman as it is... I'd recommend not pushing her buttons.

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RE: On "Moderation" in all things ... - 2/3/2008 1:17:12 PM

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~fast reply~

Free speech is rapidly becoming passe' Just an offhand thought, does anyone really believe a movie like Blazing Saddles could be released right now, or would it be banned for being racist, sexist, and quite a few other "ists". We have become too sensitive as a whole, and i personally do not know if it is simply sad, or frightening as well.

It could be released, wenchie, but I agree that there would be more of an uproar over it now, than then. Which kind of blows my mind.....

*wonders which parts would cause the most fuss, the farting around the campfire, or Cleavon Little*

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RE: On "Moderation" in all things ... - 2/3/2008 1:18:58 PM

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I disagree with most of your premise, Firmhand.

I think we have some great mods here, especially those who take the time to email and inform someone of whatever infraction they might have made, advertently or inadvertently. But I think a Mod who simply blasts off a quick insult of an email just isn't doing their job.

The two emails I received from the specific mod you mention were:

"Knock it off, !*(*$%*"

and

"Grow Up *&^%^%^"

Now don't get me wrong, I think the Mods do a thankless job and I admire them for their efforts and I appreciate their time.

Any Mod who emails me and says 'Texas Maam your post that said 'blah blah blah quote' was in violation of our policy on violence/children/flaming' or whatever the offense might be, is making a much greater effort than the Mod who just sends a three word email consisting of some insults and expletives that doesn't teach me a thing about board protocol.

It took another member to recently point out a faux pas I'd made on the boards, all I received from Mod XI was another insult and I hadn't a clue which post the Mod was referring to. If it hadn't been for the CM member telling me about the post I'd never have known.

We have some great Mods here at CM. Mod XI just isn't one of them.

We all make mistakes. Some of us just need a little enlightenment at times.

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RE: On "Moderation" in all things ... - 2/3/2008 1:22:54 PM

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I've gotten several "knock it off" emails from Mod XI and while they may have been terse they were always polite.

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RE: On "Moderation" in all things ... - 2/3/2008 1:24:21 PM

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FirmhandKY,
excellent post. You've done a great job of consolidating several related issues into one solid posting. I too think Mod11 is making a valiant effort in an effort to provide more middle ground and curb in the extremes. At the end of the day I think that's all that is being requested.

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RE: On "Moderation" in all things ... - 2/3/2008 1:28:11 PM

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Some posters enjoy an environment of heavy moderation. I do not. I post on other message boards, that do not have this amount of traffic and are not nearly as heavily moderated. These boards find their own equilibrium. This sometimes occurs with the loss of posters. I consider it part of life. Not every message board experience is going to fit every poster (you know, sort of like life experiences, in general). Moderating is a thankless job. I do understand that there is a lot of confusion going on and people being warned, yet not understanding why. I don't know what to tell them, other than give wide berth and try to stay away from people who trigger them or at least post less in those sort of threads. This is sometimes difficult to do when you see a poster taking an extreme nasty tone with others.

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RE: On "Moderation" in all things ... - 2/3/2008 1:28:31 PM

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At the end of the day I want to know what I've done wrong, not just get insulted and be left clueless.

To each their own.

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RE: On "Moderation" in all things ... - 2/3/2008 1:30:18 PM

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I've gotten several "knock it off" emails from Mod XI and while they may have been terse they were always polite.

Let's just say that if I had used the tone and language on the boards that I've received privately from a certain mod, I'd have been gone permanently without any warning.

So again, unless someone is privy to everything the mods send privately, where are they getting their knowledge as to how respectful or professional the mods actually are?

The mods aren't perfect, they aren't robots, they are people with a little power... and axiomatically, they are going to be a little corrupted.
Any other view is simply naive.

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RE: On "Moderation" in all things ... - 2/3/2008 1:36:33 PM

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It could be released, wenchie, but I agree that there would be more of an uproar over it now, than then. Which kind of blows my mind.....

*wonders which parts would cause the most fuss, the farting around the campfire, or Cleavon Little*

i am sure it would be called "wrong" on any number of levels, Level. No wonder i still love it!

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RE: On "Moderation" in all things ... - 2/3/2008 1:40:51 PM

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Being a babysitter to a large number of adults might make one a bit cranky at times, who knows? The notes I have received have always been polite, my responses also have always been polite.

I'm suprised to see the statement that we have good and bad Mods, as far as I'm aware in the recent months there is only one Mod doing the majority of the work here. Keep in mind folks that means reading a ton of complaints and reading even the sections all of us can avoid FOR FREE.

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RE: On "Moderation" in all things ... - 2/3/2008 1:41:51 PM

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But occasionally, such cliques end up adopting an anti-social or even pathological attitudes which are destructive, and/or are counter to the perceived goals of the owners of CM.

What to do?

The problem is that not every post, or every person who posts in support of such a group intends to be destructive - they are just "joining in the fun" for the moment. Members of the group validate and reinforce each other, making it more difficult for them to realize that their actions may be seen by others as less than appropriate or destructive.

How is that destructive? Anyone holding the same opinion can be considered a click. Elaborate how a post can be "destructive"?

Your whole post leans heavily toward patronizing.

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RE: On "Moderation" in all things ... - 2/3/2008 1:44:29 PM

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The mods aren't perfect, they aren't robots, they are people with a little power... and axiomatically, they are going to be a little corrupted.
Any other view is simply naive.

Correct - and the moderators are the alpha kids. Nobody forces us to play with them, mind you, and it's our call if we wish to change playgrounds.

In my experience, on an scale of unpleasantness, modmail ranks up there with a letter from a collection agency. It's just a little more personalised. And it gets the blood going. All in all... not that bad, really

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PS: why isn't everybody glued to the box watching the Superbowl Circus Extravaganza? I thought the preview was the best bit.

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RE: On "Moderation" in all things ... - 2/3/2008 1:49:41 PM

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I'm glad that some people have had pleasant interactions with the mods. Still doesn't prove anything about all of their interactions, so the blanket statements about what kind of people the mods are remain unsupported.

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RE: On "Moderation" in all things ... - 2/3/2008 1:53:51 PM

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I so never want to get a "knock it off" email from any Mod. I must say though.... when Mod 11 makes an appearance, it makes me wiggle in my seat. It must be the authoritative position he/she holds.

I have noticed the posts more and more from Mod 11... what does this mean? Are people complaining more about others? Hmmm Or, am I missing some really juicy stuff. *shrug*

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RE: On "Moderation" in all things ... - 2/3/2008 1:54:16 PM

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FirmHand; may I have the Cliff's notes, please?

Treasure; Great catch on that [Awaiting Approval] thing. I never noticed it was in the box above the name as well!

And I have to say (as I've said in another post) that I agree with TexasMaam. If we are being reprimanded, we should be told what we are reprimanded for. Heck, it's Dom 101, is it not? How can we keep from doing something if we don't know what it is we did? As for vulgar terms being used in the emails, I've never experienced that, but were I to, I'd probably get in touch with whoever actually runs and/or owns this site and find out if they knew and approved of that type of behaviour. If so, I'd seriously reconsider whether I wanted to continue participating.

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RE: On "Moderation" in all things ... - 2/3/2008 1:59:53 PM

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Hmmm, since I compared modmail to a letter from a collection agency, I thought it was pretty obvious that my interractions with moderators wasn't the most pleasant.

As for blanket statements, I wouldn't know. I use a duvet.

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