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subtee -> RE: Slavegirl’s orgasmic abstinence by free will. (2/9/2008 2:07:13 PM)

FR~

taptaptap...

is this thing on?



RedMagic1 -> RE: Slavegirl’s orgasmic abstinence by free will. (2/9/2008 2:09:26 PM)

Nope.



Milivoje -> RE: Slavegirl’s orgasmic abstinence by free will. (2/9/2008 2:27:48 PM)

Yep, it's dead.

Thanks to the open minded and well informed community of collarme.

P.S. I just want to send a big thanks to Leatherist and daddysprop247.



daddysprop247 -> RE: Slavegirl’s orgasmic abstinence by free will. (2/9/2008 2:30:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Milivoje

Yep, it's dead.

Thanks to the open minded and well informed community of collarme.

P.S. I just want to send a big thanks to Leatherist and daddysprop247.


no prob, some of us understand and appreciate the joys and benefits of non-orgasmic sex. [:)]



subtee -> RE: Slavegirl’s orgasmic abstinence by free will. (2/9/2008 2:36:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Milivoje

Yep, it's dead.

Thanks to the open minded and well informed community of collarme.

P.S. I just want to send a big thanks to Leatherist and daddysprop247.


Certainly within your right to end it, as it is to not really respond to me, as both you and your girl chose to do. Instead you responded quickly and vehemently to the more adament posts. Was the intention to be inflamatory, then?

I'm not taking it as personal, but I did respectfully and with time and thought give input. I'm just curious why you didn't adress the thoughts I gave...



StormsSlave -> RE: Slavegirl’s orgasmic abstinence by free will. (2/10/2008 7:16:39 AM)

My man tells me when to orgasm, and often makes me ask permission, but I usually end up being "punished" for not waiting.  I can't.  I think maybe I'm hyper-orgasmic (new word?) but it happens whether I want it to, or not, sometimes.  Wouldn't make it through one session, let alone 6 months!!!



meticulousgirl -> RE: Slavegirl’s orgasmic abstinence by free will. (2/10/2008 10:22:28 AM)

i'm rarely ever used sexually unless it's to perform oral on Him and when i am i rarely get the chance to orgasm...until recently i was made to go exactly one year without anything, sex, play litterally anything except teasing, and only one spanking in the middle of it.  When used that way recently i still wasn't allowed to cum, it was for His pleasure and that was ok with me, i get more satisfaction out of pleasing Him then i do "getting off".

It was definitly my year from hell but, in return i learned alot about myself as His slave and yes as mind boggling as it was, it was ok with me because i knew there was a reason for it.

~meticulous~



ownedgirlie -> RE: Slavegirl’s orgasmic abstinence by free will. (2/10/2008 10:48:23 AM)

~ Fast Reply ~

I only perused this thread and....I don't get it.  Medically hazardous to not cum for a few months??  Loss of libido?

Hell, after my nearly 20 year, practically sexless marriage, one would I wouldn't even want to kiss anymore!  Instead, it turned me into the Energizer Bunny!

To the OP and slave, enjoy it.  I've been denied for several weeks, teased all the while, and the suffering and torment was sweet.  The wantonness it created was something he very much enjoyed.  Going a few months would be agonizing for me, yet that kind of suffering for him gets us both off in our own funky ways, so why not!  If he wanted this of me I'd do it in a heart beat.  I don't understand all the controversy in this thread, but I guess that's what makes us all unique individuals.



softness -> RE: Slavegirl’s orgasmic abstinence by free will. (2/10/2008 10:51:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Milivoje

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ORIGINAL: softness

we know that there are things we would give up orgasms for, becoming more devoted is not one of them


Could you care to enlighten us on this matter? What can those things be?

World peace? Saving the poor? Aiding the developing countries? Stopping hunger? Ot some other "humane" act?


your patronising tone is so endearing,

I have been very polite throughout discussions on this thread and feel that you have been very defensive in your posts in return. You came to the forum to seek opinions on your way of life, have the grace not to be snappy and defensive when those opinions are not wholeheatedly in your favour.




icy_flame -> RE: Slavegirl’s orgasmic abstinence by free will. (2/10/2008 12:17:11 PM)

I wanted to thank everyone who has posted on this thread. The difference in opinion is always welcome. However it’s nice and encouraging to know there are people who have had this kind of experience and who have also enjoyed it.

Ownedgirlie I love the way you said this:
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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

The wantonness it created was something he very much enjoyed. 


My Master would definitely agree [:D]. I’m incredibly horny most of the time and it makes me want to please him even more.



Milivoje -> RE: Slavegirl’s orgasmic abstinence by free will. (2/10/2008 1:33:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: softness

your patronising tone is so endearing,

I have been very polite throughout discussions on this thread and feel that you have been very defensive in your posts in return. You came to the forum to seek opinions on your way of life, have the grace not to be snappy and defensive when those opinions are not wholeheatedly in your favour.


 
I am sorry you feel this way. My style of writing may perhaps come accross as arrogant, nevertheless I only responded to posts that seem rather to attack, than to share experience, in this manner.

P.S. I would still like to know what are the things you would give up orgasms for?



camille65 -> RE: Slavegirl’s orgasmic abstinence by free will. (2/10/2008 1:55:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Leatherist

Lord no orgasms for a few months and you people think the thing is going to rot out or something? I wonder how the nuns mananged.
 I wholeheartedly agree with this statement. 4 months may sound like an eternity but it isn't. I read the links, and I dug a bit deeper on my own. From all that I read it takes much longer than 4 months for problems of a physical nature to start. Psychologically I don't have any idea, I don't know if that would make it hard to reach orgasm after the 4 months or not. What about women that are high risk pregnant and can't have sex for several months? I've never heard of them atropying. I imagine that there are a lot of women around the world who have gone 4 months without an orgasm, and without a problem. This seems to have struck a chord with a lot and I've found it an interesting thread to read.



AquaticSub -> RE: Slavegirl’s orgasmic abstinence by free will. (2/10/2008 1:57:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: icy_flame




To each his own! Master and I posted in the first place because we were interested in the opinion and experience of other people in the lifestyle, and not because we wanted to convince anybody of anything. I get that people are different and that they enjoy different things.

However, I don’t agree with this statement.
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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

Our approach is that if I need to give up orgasms to become fully devoted, I am not devoted enough in the first place.

I see this experience as yet another form of giving myself to him, as I explained in the previous post. It doesn’t imply I wasn’t devoted enough in the first place.




If you will read it again, you will see that I clearly stated there are different approachs. You don't have to agree. I don't agree with your approach. But if I have to give up orgasms to become fully devoted, I'm simply not devoted enough in the first. You would not suit my owner because he enjoys racking up the count of orgasms, trying to get it so high my head swims, I can't breathe, I can't think, I'm swimming in clouds, I have no control and all I can do is beg for more.

Your needing to give up orgasms to be fully devoted would mean that you simply weren't devoted enough. On the other hand, I clearly wouldn't suit yours. There is nothing to give up, I can't provide them to myself. How hard is to give up something that you can't get for yourself in any way, shape or form? It would do nothing to increase my devotation, my depression would get worse and I would wonder why he was unwilling to provide something that has such a positive effect on my life.

Try to understand: There are many ways of doing things. There are people who think all men are dominant and all women are submissive. There are people who think all women are dominant and all men are submissives. Situations like these are the norm, rather than the exception.

Edited to add: Just in case I wasn't clear since this is a written forum - I really don't have an issue with the concept. It's simply a 180 from our approach and the approach that would work for me. Both are valid. I am also not saying that any particular way, owner, slave, submissive, or toaster oven is better than another.



AquaticSub -> RE: Slavegirl’s orgasmic abstinence by free will. (2/10/2008 2:01:02 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Milivoje

Yep, it's dead.

Thanks to the open minded and well informed community of collarme.

P.S. I just want to send a big thanks to Leatherist and daddysprop247.


Oh good grief. Open-minded doesn't mean receiving every idea with a parade. I think you've gotten a very open-minded responses. You've gotten a lot of people going "Hey, it doesn't work for me but it works for you. That's great. But there is this one thing that might be a health problem, you might want to check it out" and some people wondering why you won't.

Personally, I don't care if it sounds stupid, I'm pretty careful these sorts of things. Every now and then someone dies from drinking too much water. From my understanding, usually after a competition of "see how much water you can drink before you have to use the bathroom", and nobody calls a doctor ahead of time because... hey it's just water.



softness -> RE: Slavegirl’s orgasmic abstinence by free will. (2/10/2008 2:04:22 PM)

Thankyou for the apology, I think you mistook my meaning, most likely because I didn't express is properly. I am not owned, I am talking from prior experience and future expectation.

I would obey the order to not orgasm purely because it was an order. I know that the order would not be given me because I needed to become more devoted, or to focus myself more fully on my Master. I know this because my own orgasm is not a factor in my devotion to, or focus on my Master, it is a lucky bi-product of those things. There may be many reasons or goals in mind if that order is ever given to me, but in becoming my Master .. any man would know me well enough to know that my orgasm, and my physical pleasure, do not change the my attention or devotion.

I would not progress to the Ms dynamic with a man who did not want me to enjoy sexual intercourse to the fullest of my ability - notice I am not saying sex cannot be pleasurable without orgasm, just that it is most enjoyable for me *with* orgasm. This is not because I am a bad slave, or really not a slave at all .. it is not something I need to defend or explain, or excuse.

I hope that answers your question.



ownedgirlie -> RE: Slavegirl’s orgasmic abstinence by free will. (2/10/2008 2:07:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub
But if I have to give up orgasms to become fully devoted, I'm simply not devoted enough in the first.


I saw this come up a couple of times and wanted to comment on it.

For myself, if I ever reach "enough" for him, I am lacking.  I don't see "Not devoted enough" as a negative.  As devoted as I may become to my Master, it will never be "enough."

Not to hijack the thread, but that occurred to me as I read the posts.



AquaticSub -> RE: Slavegirl’s orgasmic abstinence by free will. (2/10/2008 2:13:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

quote:

ORIGINAL: AquaticSub
But if I have to give up orgasms to become fully devoted, I'm simply not devoted enough in the first.


I saw this come up a couple of times and wanted to comment on it.

For myself, if I ever reach "enough" for him, I am lacking.  I don't see "Not devoted enough" as a negative.  As devoted as I may become to my Master, it will never be "enough."

Not to hijack the thread, but that occurred to me as I read the posts.


We see it differently. If I wasn't devoted and didn't love him to a certain, undefinable degree, it wouldn't be enough to stay in the relationship. That doesn't mean our love, my devotion to him and his to me can't grow. It just... wouldn't be enough for him to have a woman who needed to forgo certain things to get into her headspace, for lack of a better term. Knowing him, he wouldn't do well with a sub/slave who thought she couldn't have nice jewelry either.

Maybe I'm phrasing things horribly, but I hope I'm making sense. I haven't had much sleep. [:)]



ownedgirlie -> RE: Slavegirl’s orgasmic abstinence by free will. (2/10/2008 2:27:43 PM)

I think I see what you're saying, and we do disagree (not the first time, lol).  It's not that I forego something to stay in a headspace, it's that we both enjoy when I forego something as a way of expressing myself.  Some people enjoy romantic dinners and roses, we enjoy my suffering :) 

As for jewelry, he likes me to have nice things, too.

Get some sleep!



AquaticSub -> RE: Slavegirl’s orgasmic abstinence by free will. (2/10/2008 2:38:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

I think I see what you're saying, and we do disagree (not the first time, lol).  It's not that I forego something to stay in a headspace, it's that we both enjoy when I forego something as a way of expressing myself.  Some people enjoy romantic dinners and roses, we enjoy my suffering :) 

As for jewelry, he likes me to have nice things, too.

Get some sleep!


That makes sense to me. Or at least it does right now, with my very sleep-deprived brain. [;)]

There are things I'm not allowed to have. I wouldn't say that not being able to have them increases my devotation but sometimes he likes to watch me squirm when I can't have something I want. It's that just that if I needed to forgo certain things, like orgasms or nice jewelry to not feel selfish and be fully devoted, I just wouldn't be right/enough/whatever for him.

I probably should toddle off, before I end up offending someone by accident. Sadly, I think I'm too wired to sleep. If you know that "tired but wired" state. [:'(]



ownedgirlie -> RE: Slavegirl’s orgasmic abstinence by free will. (2/10/2008 2:45:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

I probably should toddle off, before I end up offending someone by accident. Sadly, I think I'm too wired to sleep. If you know that "tired but wired" state. [:'(]


I think it just boils down to different people expressing themselves differently, and utilizing different methods to elicit certain existing feelings from within.  Thanks for engaging me in the dialogue!

And yes, I was in that "tired but wired" state most of last week!  Tylenol PM is your friend!!  [8D]



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