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Question about Sex and Spermacide - 2/6/2008 12:50:03 PM   
PrincessEllie


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I was a virgin until yesterday, I 'lost it' to a longtime friend and longtime Dom whom I love deeply. And my questions center around my urge not to become pregnant. Though we are both adults, we are students too and cannot risk a pregnancy. I am already taking birth control and have been following the directions diligently. Our additional method of contraception is to pull-out, and I was wondering if anyone knew of a really good spermacide for those pesky accidents, just in case. I went hunting for one in my local drug store but I was not sure what I was looking for, so it was a failed experiment. I would also maybe like to find a good lubricant (possibly containing spermacide) as well, as I was rubbed quite raw during my last encounter.

My other question centers around positioning. My boy has quite a bit of sexual stamina (which centers from his voracious urge to masturbate during his teen years), which often outlasts his physical stamina. Case and point, he finds it hard to hold himself up for the half hour or so that sex requires for him to reach completion. He cannot lie directly on me without crushing me and restricting my breathing as he weighs 50pounds more than me. Does anyone know a position that takes the effort off his poor arms? Any help would be amazing!

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RE: Question about Sex and Spermacide - 2/6/2008 2:04:27 PM   
Phin


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Status: offline 		this is the wiki on sex positions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sex_positions

my preference on positions that would really help his poor little arms

doggystyle, you on your hands and knees and him behind you. if you do it at the edge of a low bed he can stand himself, it seems to help rather than being on his knees.

Missionary on a table. you sitting on a desk or table just lower than waist high for him. again he can stand.

my personal favorite, you on top. you get deeper penetration and he does minamal (not no if wants better sex) work plus it leaves his hands free to pull hair, play with your tits etc.

have fun experiment.

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RE: Question about Sex and Spermacide - 2/6/2008 3:48:09 PM   
PrincessEllie


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Thanks a bunch. I think I would like to try the second one you mentioned, as we did attempt doggy style but out differences in height made it such that he accomplished the same amount of work. Also, I kept slipping because it is hard to stay on all fours when going through rigorous excercise.

I am not comfortable with me on top, and neither is he. He likes being in a position that holds power over me, and generally likes those that allow him to slap my bottom.

Thank you for the link, it was very helpful!


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RE: Question about Sex and Spermacide - 2/6/2008 3:51:25 PM   
WaratahBlossoms


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Status: offline 		Oh! I love VCF.

I'm on the pill but I'm afraid I'm going to be too late or too early on it and wind up pregnant again.
(I have one baby, that's enough for quite some time for me!)

But it's a film that turns into a gel after about 15minutes inside the body and will last for 3 hours after insertion.
It doesn't lube though, but it does increase arrousal.

I, personally, love it!
You can pick it up at CVS for about $6 for 3 individual films.
But it's well worth it.

If you do a search online, you can find their website and they'll send you 3 film as a trial and it takes only about 1-2 weeks to arrive.

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RE: Question about Sex and Spermacide - 2/6/2008 3:53:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here. I found the link for you!

http://www.vcf-contraceptive.com/sample.asp

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RE: Question about Sex and Spermacide - 2/6/2008 5:45:38 PM   
PrincessEllie


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Status: offline 		Thank you WaratahBlossoms, but I am looking for something more along the lines of a gel or a foam, maybe even something to use after sex, I do not think I would be comfortable with the inserts. 

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RE: Question about Sex and Spermacide - 2/6/2008 9:12:31 PM   
amativedame


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Status: offline 		Well, my recommendation would be to find the foaming vaginal suppositories or the sponge... but if you aren't comfortable with inserts you might have issues there.  I think most spermicides are meant to be insereted before sex, so they can be effective.  Personally, I'm allergic to them (found this out the hard way with the foam) so I can't give you any actual suggestions.

This would give you an idea of what you're looking for on the shelf though:
Ortho Options Gel
Vaginal Foam
Jelly W/Applicators
Gel Inserts

The only lubricant I've run across with spermicide is condoms.


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RE: Question about Sex and Spermacide - 2/7/2008 1:12:41 PM   
PrincessEllie


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Status: offline 		I think I might go the gel/foam route. Any extra bit helps, and I suppose it wouldn't be so bad having to buy lubricant as well. 

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So tie me up
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And bite me baby, bite me!

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RE: Question about Sex and Spermacide - 2/8/2008 11:32:48 AM   
WaratahBlossoms


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Status: offline 		The film works the best with me, simply because if I'm not in the mood to deal with inserting it, I make him do it and he never objects to it. I also enjoy it because I don't really need lube during sex. Therefore, I think anything that's just going to make me more slick isn't going to be that enjoyable for either of us.

I just got my free "sample" today and I'm really happy. It's worth the shot to try it though, I think. I mean, it's 3 free samples and if you're not happy with them, you can always find a friend that's interested in them!



But I think we've hit a good thread here for anyone interested in different spermacides out on the market!

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RE: Question about Sex and Spermacide - 2/8/2008 12:58:51 PM   
Maynard


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FYI: 'pulling out' is not an "additional method of contraception".  Precum contains thousands of his little swimmers.

If you think you had an 'uh oh' you should quickly run to get a pack of 'morning after' pills.  It must be started 72 hours after intercourse (there are two doses).  It is not an abortion pill, just an extra huge shot of birth control.  Your school's clinic will care them, you can get them at any planned parenthood if you don't have insurence, possiablely for free.

I suggest you go talk to a nurse, or go to a women's center, or something to learn more about contraceptive options....and get a karma sutra book. 

Have fun exploring!

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RE: Question about Sex and Spermacide - 2/8/2008 3:38:03 PM   
WaratahBlossoms


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Status: offline 		Pulling out IS an acceptable backup of protection in this case.
It's hard to spot, but if you look at it again, you can see she's already taking BC.

Therefore, in that case, it is a good backup method.


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RE: Question about Sex and Spermacide - 2/8/2008 3:54:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		As far as arms getting tired you have to experiment with different positions and learn how to roll around each other so that you can change positions frequently. As far as you being on top it is sometimes easier to pull the woman on top and hook the palms of your hands on her hips so that you lock her hips above you and pund from underneaith.  It is still dominating because the woman is somewhat held off the ground and has no control over the motion and gives the guy plenty of leverage if its done on the floor, I just find that you have to carefull not to hurt a woman.  Also, in the misssionary position there is plenty of things that can be done that does not crush your chest like being on the forearms where he isnt really using any arm strength. Its really just a matter of practice---practice---practice. 

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RE: Question about Sex and Spermacide - 2/8/2008 3:58:12 PM   
camille65


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Status: offline 		Okies I will freely admit that learning about the birds n bees was a long long time ago thing for me. But I was always under the impression that the 'pull-out' method was just bunk in regards to his spunk?(had to make that rhyme.) 
quote:

ORIGINAL: WaratahBlossoms

Pulling out IS an acceptable backup of protection in this case.
It's hard to spot, but if you look at it again, you can see she's already taking BC.

Therefore, in that case, it is a good backup method.



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RE: Question about Sex and Spermacide - 2/8/2008 6:08:17 PM   
WaratahBlossoms


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Status: offline 		But if you're already on another form of BC and taking it as carefully as she is, the pull-out method isn't as "dangerous" as if she were not taking it correctly or not taking anything at all.

Hence me. I can't seem to remember my pill the exact time every day. And so I use the film as my back-up method since I'm not that into condoms. And I feel that proper use of the film and a 10minute before or after the exact time on the pill are a good second option.

Beats the Hell out of the Depo shot for me! I mean, unless I found a sub that was totally into a girl bleeding every day for 3 months. And if it wouldn't drive me crazy going through that again!

Haha!


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RE: Question about Sex and Spermacide - 2/9/2008 3:10:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		I can't recall what the position is called, but with your legs pushed up and back against yourself, his arms hooked under your calves of knees, he can lean into your legs keeping them pinned and him supported while he hammers away. I often find this position a bit uncomfortable with a well endowed partner, but if you like some deep jabbing against your tender inards try it out. (I probably described the position horribly, sorry.)

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RE: Question about Sex and Spermacide - 2/9/2008 9:39:49 AM   
WaratahBlossoms


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Status: offline 		I know what you're talking about!

And, yea, it's really easy for him to support himself that way but when I was introduced to this by another Dom on here, it felt terrible because of his endowment. I think it'd feel best with a bit more normal-sized man!


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RE: Question about Sex and Spermacide - 2/9/2008 10:45:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		I agree that pulling out isn't that dangerous if you are CORRECTLY using BC. 

But it isn't a back up, a method, or a form of contraception. 

If you are still concerned about getting pregnat even when taking Birth Control and are planning on having him pull out to save you from a baby...ya' might as well let him cum in you because pulling out isn't going to do anything but save you from messing up your vagina.

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RE: Question about Sex and Spermacide - 2/9/2008 8:36:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Why not use a condom and protect yourself against some of the STDs as well as pregnancy? Or was your dom also a virgin until a few days ago?

quote:

  Does anyone know a position that takes the effort off his poor arms?


He could always be on the bottom.

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