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BlackPhx -> Man Critical After Being Suspended From Ceiling At S&M Club (2/9/2008 9:55:12 AM)

Man Critical After Being Suspended From Ceiling At S&M Club
WNBC
POSTED: 1:40 pm EST February 8, 2008
UPDATED: 3:31 pm EST February 8, 2008

NEW YORK -- An unidentified patron of a Midtown S&M club who was bound and suspended from a ceiling while wearing women's high heels and a neck choker was hospitalized in critical condition Friday, police sources said.

While an accident is the most likely cause, police said they are investigating whether he was the victim of a crime. Officials said a preliminary check showed that the club is a legal business.

One law enforcement source said this incident appeared to be an accident because the man apparently had consented to the treatment. Due to the seriousness of his injuries, police started an investigation, said an NYPD spokesman.









"Detectives are investigating whether there is any criminal culpability with the operators," said a police spokesman.

The man was found about 1:30 a.m. inside the East 33rd Street club known as Nutcracker Suite and Artistic Innovation, wearing his pants but not carrying any identification, police said.

He's listed in critical condition at St. Vincent's Medical Center, said police sources.

Detectives are trying to determine how long the man was left alone once tied up, sources said. He was discovered in apparent respiratory distress after a club worker checked on him as he was suspended from the ceiling and noticed that his hands looked blue, a police source said.
Attempts to reach the club were not successful.
The law enforcement source said that the club's staffers were cooperating with the police and told investigators that they had checked on the man in regular intervals after he had been bound and suspended




MisPandora -> RE: Man Critical After Being Suspended From Ceiling At S&M Club (2/12/2008 6:06:39 AM)

The referred to "club" is a professional SM house, Nutcracker Suite.  Interestingly enough, their website is down and unaccessible right now.  Thanks to the Internet Way Back Machine, we can see bits and pieces of what used to be there -- http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.nutsuite.com/




sextoygirlNY -> RE: Man Critical After Being Suspended From Ceiling At S&M Club (2/12/2008 6:54:41 AM)

Oh great, another good dungeon about to be shut down. NY used to have many to choose from, *sighs* this is not going to be good for the community.




dorina -> RE: Man Critical After Being Suspended From Ceiling At S&M Club (2/13/2008 5:49:05 AM)

Why are there not more people expressing there thoughs of what happen,when my case happen in 1998 every one had an opinion,has time changed,live and learn Mistress Christianna




MissSCD -> RE: Man Critical After Being Suspended From Ceiling At S&M Club (2/13/2008 7:45:18 AM)

That was a very dangerous and stupid thing to do to someone.   I bet there is going to be some charges filed.
I wouldn't like to be suspended like that either especially without my CONSENT!!!!
People, it is all about CONSENT!!!!!!!!
 
Regards, MissSCD




GreedyTop -> RE: Man Critical After Being Suspended From Ceiling At S&M Club (2/13/2008 7:47:22 AM)

"One law enforcement source said this incident appeared to be an accident because the man apparently had consented to the treatment"

Evidentally, he HAD consented.




xxblushesxx -> RE: Man Critical After Being Suspended From Ceiling At S&M Club (2/13/2008 8:28:58 AM)

When I looked in that way back thingie, I noticed they had specials on Friday nights (at least in 2005 or 2006...can't remember which)
Perhaps if you're paying for a fetish evening, you should just go ahead and pay full price.[:-] 
I'm just saying...




SirJohnMandevill -> RE: Man Critical After Being Suspended From Ceiling At S&M Club (2/13/2008 9:05:55 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

"One law enforcement source said this incident appeared to be an accident because the man apparently had consented to the treatment"

Evidentally, he HAD consented.


And now, the guy claims he's going to seek professional help to kick this "dirty habit":
http://www.nypost.com/seven/02132008/news/regionalnews/they_beat_it_out_of_me_97391.htm?page=0

WUSS!!!!!!

Les (Purveyor of Fine, Handcrafted Kink)




GreedyTop -> RE: Man Critical After Being Suspended From Ceiling At S&M Club (2/13/2008 9:16:42 AM)

yeah, saw that in a post by Mercnbeth...

'wuss' is being kind...lol




DragonLadysFire -> RE: Man Critical After Being Suspended From Ceiling At S&M Club (2/13/2008 9:29:28 AM)

That is sad, more like it.  To be ashamed of what you like and do like that. *sighs*




sadomasokisti -> RE: Man Critical After Being Suspended From Ceiling At S&M Club (2/13/2008 9:43:08 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MissSCD

That was a very dangerous and stupid thing to do to someone.   I bet there is going to be some charges filed.
I wouldn't like to be suspended like that either especially without my CONSENT!!!!
People, it is all about CONSENT!!!!!!!!
 
Regards, MissSCD


"suspended like that" ?? Do you mean suspension while wearing high heals and a choker?

Where said it was not consensual?




CalifChick -> RE: Man Critical After Being Suspended From Ceiling At S&M Club (2/13/2008 9:50:39 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: dorina

Why are there not more people expressing there thoughs of what happen,when my case happen in 1998 every one had an opinion,has time changed,live and learn Mistress Christianna


What is there to say?  The dipshit asked to be left alone in suspension, and the dipshit Domme left him alone.  Now he says he's ashamed.  They all need a heavy dose of therapy.  And a big whack with the clue-by-four (aka, the "common sense stick").

Cali




GreedyTop -> RE: Man Critical After Being Suspended From Ceiling At S&M Club (2/13/2008 9:52:43 AM)

FR~

I'm just curious about what case dorina is referring to...




Lucylastic -> RE: Man Critical After Being Suspended From Ceiling At S&M Club (2/13/2008 10:45:08 AM)

Im thinking maybe that being unconcsious didnt agree with him , waking up in the hospital, has to be a hell of a come down and a mental barrier to doing it again.
Just glad for the guy that he didnt shove off this mortal coil.
I wonder if anyone will be charged in this?
Lucy




XiaoTheOwl -> RE: Man Critical After Being Suspended From Ceiling At S&M Club (2/13/2008 2:01:03 PM)

I notice the word consent gets thrown around a lot, as if the other imortant factors are nolonger considered...
Ok he consented... safe?...sane?... he ended up in a hostital... I think not...

And Shame on the Domme for not caring enough to be safe, while he was bound, suspended...

And even if he asked to be left alone.. common sence would be to ignore such a request, or at the very least leave him BRIEFLY.. while consistantly checking on his well being.

I'm sure his 'trust' has been tainted as well, which just puts him off from experiencing a Good session, where he doesn't end up hospitalized.

*edited for spelliing




dorina -> RE: Man Critical After Being Suspended From Ceiling At S&M Club (2/14/2008 8:07:40 AM)

The owner of the Nutcracker, is the one whould should  make sure the people working for him knows what they are doing,Robert Fluty,the owner of ths Fetish Factory and now is putting on in Nov 2008 Kink In the Caribbean is that person,yet he has not made any public statment of what went wrong or what his plans are so this does not happen again,Mistress Christianna




MisPandora -> RE: Man Critical After Being Suspended From Ceiling At S&M Club (2/14/2008 8:28:40 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: dorina

Why are there not more people expressing there thoughs of what happen,when my case happen in 1998 every one had an opinion,has time changed,live and learn Mistress Christianna

Perhaps it's obvious.  Unmonitored predicament bondage tying someone off by the NECK isn't bright.  The client is fortunate he isn't dead.  The dom is fortunate she isn't in jail.  What more is there to say?




dorina -> RE: Man Critical After Being Suspended From Ceiling At S&M Club (2/16/2008 9:31:33 AM)

she was not a real Dom,aka known as dress up in leather and give her a whip and call her self a Dom,I trained along side back in 1989 with a real Dom,Mistress Victoria Crux,maybe if more took training this would not happen!Mistress Christianna




pinkwind -> RE: Man Critical After Being Suspended From Ceiling At S&M Club (2/19/2008 1:43:18 PM)

Isn't it a tad sad to call a man who was in critical condition at one point, and possibly ill used or looked after to get into that state, a wuss for having to publically say he was seeking help for his proclivities.

He may well have had to go public after the story of his "accident" hit the papers in the hopes of mitigating thae damage done by being outed as a kinkster in the press. People are always banging on about not wanting family, friends and co-workers finding out about their kink, how do you think this poor sod feels right now?

Not only does he go through some form of hell whilst suspended from a ceiling and basically ignored long enough to become critical, but now has to deny all that he is because of it. Personally i feel sorry for him, and would be wondering just what happened at that establishment, that such a thing could happen to a patron using some of their equipment, consent aside.

And yes, it might be a shame that another good club or venue hits the skids, but if this can happen in a supposedly regulated space then maybe it should at least be temporarily closed until all the circumstances are known, and steps put in place to make sure something like this couldn't happen again.

One wonders what would have happened in the worst case scenario.





BlackPhx -> RE: Man Critical After Being Suspended From Ceiling At S&M Club (2/19/2008 2:37:23 PM)

Worse case scenario is he would have died or been permanently brain damaged, and the "Domina" would be sitting in jail pending charges.

Criminal negligence in this case is (as far as I am concerned) leaving him unattended and unmonitored. When I worked Bizarre Theater (NY 80's) no customer or actor (yes we did fetish skits as well) was left alone for any length of time. There was always a monitor with anyone who was suspended, bound or restricted in anyway for safety sake and quick release latches were used.

This club may close, or not, a lot will depend on whether they had good insurance and have a good lawyer. NY constantly tries to close down the clubs, but they always crop up again. It seems to be a cost of doing business in NY.

As for our dear Victim, I suspect he is praying his wife doesn't divorce him, take the Bank Accounts, pensions and Apartment/home and his employer terminate him (in fact I wonder how recent his retirement was). I wouldn't have expected him to do anything else other than put out a denoument against his ever being involved in BDSM again.

poenkitten




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