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Hearing health - 2/23/2008 12:02:35 PM   
Termyn8or


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I think this is the right place for this. I am not specifically talking BDSM related for part of it, but alot of people probably play music during a scene, and on that level, how loud ?

So this is not completely off the wall. But to preface, I am listening to Rare Earth right now. I like how the high sounds are piercing, strong, powerful. And we do not even want to talk about bass, I wish I could crack the ground outside from upstairs here.

Thing is alot of people can't take it, my Mom says it all turns to noise at a certain level. She is not the only one. She is not the only one. Even though my tunes are running on the piddly little power out my TV right now, it is too loud for some.

Don't get me wrong, I'll turn it down, have a convo, of course. Others come over and make a request for a song and I might say "I can burn it for you", but then they say no, they want to hear it on MY stereo.

Anyway, over the years I have had headphones (before I owned a house) that would do 136dB. I had Sony MDR-CD5s with the resistors jumped. I blew them but it was fun. But I had to settle for them after the Sansui SS10s, you could hear them OUTSIDE. They were about the loudest sound I have ever heard. It took a really drunk friend to blow them. So I shelled out the $150 for the Sonys. At one point in time I was listening to the headphone WITH the speakers running so I got the feel of the bass. Yes I know I am nuts, there is no need to point it out.

I have also seen a sign at a concert warning that hearing damage WILL occur if you get within ten feet of the speaker, and I went right up to it and put my ear to it. I have been in a basement with ten grand worth of equipment, where the dude put an empty wine glass in front of a speaker and the sound started melting it !

Yet I can still hear a conversation two rooms away, I can tell when someone comes over by the sound of their car, even if it has a good muffler. From inside my house I can sometimes hear thier tires crunch the snow on the street. And this house is relatively soundproofed after I went to jail for a loud stereo.

I am not without physical problems, but my ears seem to work really well.

Why ? I have abused them all my life. But some people can't stand it.

Admittedly if I were bottoming the threat of playing a song I hate might get me to comply, but for some just loudness seems to hurt them. Even pumping the sub's favorite song into headphones would be terrible for them, in a bad way.

Guy I work with has poor hearing, but the 400Hz test tone even low grates on him.

Now they are talking about hearing damage from ipods and shit. Are you kidding me ? what these things got two double A batteries in them ? Poppycock. You want to fuck up my hearing you need mains voltage. I have had headphones that did 136dB. You have any idea how loud that is ? A jet taking off 30 feet away might be 120dB.

I don't expect others to be able to tolerate that level, I had to work into it. But thing is, next day I could again hear, and I mean hear well. I can still hear the HV come up in a TV, and a vacuum leak in a car.

Why ? Why am I different ? Some people no matter what you do they are fine, others, one concert and they have to go to an ear doctor. Why ?

Back later. Any thoughts ?

T
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RE: Hearing health - 2/23/2008 12:18:32 PM   
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What?

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RE: Hearing health - 2/23/2008 12:25:17 PM   
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quote:

And this house is relatively soundproofed after I went to jail for a loud stereo. ORIGINAL: Termyn8or


You were actually put in jail because of the loudness of your stereo?  And your house is only "relatively" soundproofed?


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RE: Hearing health - 2/23/2008 5:42:42 PM   
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Term - you usually start to lose the higher frequencies first. I have a studio and both play and listen loud. The difference with the ear buds is that they are inside the ear canal and not surrounding the outside of the ear like headphones.The micro music players don't have enough power to blow an eardrum but that can cause that insidious deterioiration.

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RE: Hearing health - 2/23/2008 7:31:45 PM   
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Are you f*king deaf dude?
Why the heck do you want to listen to something that loudly in the first place if your hearing is as sensitive (as you claim)?

I like my music loud sometimes, but not so much that it infringes on other people's right to NOT have to listen to it. Silence is golden.


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RE: Hearing health - 2/24/2008 8:28:01 AM   
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So my first question is have you had your hearing tested recently? Second have your eardrums ever rattled from loud music? The thing is hearing loss is very insidious. In other words it will creep up on you very slowly then suddenly you will be virtually def. I used to love loud music until I got a hearing test. The Audiologist said unless I stopped I would be def in ten years. That was 12 years ago and I have no permanent damage because I listened to the doctor. What I do have is a sensitivity that causes my eardrums to rattle that makes it impossible for me to use power tools w/o ear protection. Simply put loosing my hearing wasn't an option because it truly separates you from people. Go get a hearing test done you may be surprised.   

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RE: Hearing health - 2/26/2008 8:04:34 AM   
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Here it is.  I am very hearing impared.  The doctors claim my hearing loss came from a viral infection three years ago; however, I listened to head phones, went to loud concerts, had mind blowers and alpine speakers in my car for years. 
I went to one concert that was so loud, I could not hear for three days.  There was ringing in my ears.
It started gradually, but the viral infection finally took 70 percent loss on both ears.
Needless to say, I refuse to get an IPod or any other type of stero equipment.  I just don't like it and know what it has done to me.
I lost a career because of this type of thing.  I was a dispatcher for 11 years.  I work in retail now, but the money loss is quite huge. 
Think about what you do before you do it.

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RE: Hearing health - 2/26/2008 10:53:29 AM   
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I really don't think I need the hearing test. Before I continue I want say I regret anyone losing their hearing. I've had a couple of ear infections and even temporarily losing the hearing in one ear drove me nuts. Ear infections were the only exception I make, yes I did go to a doctor, but that was at least 15 years ago.

Actually I could test my own hearing, I have the equipment. Actually maybe not, I have headphones but I don't think their frequency response is flat enough. I have the generator though.

I think different people are built differently. There are people who work with a jackhammer all day and some experience a profound hearing loss yet it seems not to affect others. And that's a way worse sound than almost any music. Rat-at-at, not quite as loud as a machine gun. Then what of soldiers on the battlefield ?

I've never run a jackhammer but was around quite a few gunshots, both indoors and out, and let me tellya, indoors a gun is LOUD. So after the headphones that did 136dB, which replaced the ones I blew that were even louder, sitting in band practices with sound reinforcement equipment that is literally melting glass, for some reason I can still hear.

I can still hear the crackle of the high voltage when you turn on a TV set. I am 47 and I can still hear a pin drop. Until we put in the second ceiling downstairs I could hear the induction motor on my furnace, which is in the attic, from downstairs. Up until maybe ten years ago I could hear the HV transformer in a TV, which runs at 15,734 Hz, and they are designed to minimize the sound. I had one TV I could hear running from a couple of rooms away, had to get rid of it. I no longer hear that high, but pretty close.

In the old days I had the golden ears almost. I could tell if something was a radio, cassette or CD. I had a $150 cartridge in my turntable and would not buy a cassette deck that didn't have Dolby HX. All for the sound. I abandoned the vinyl because of all the problems, but I would have to say I still prefer it to CDs.

Now things are different. I don't even have CDs anymore, it's all on the harddrive. On certain songs I can tell the difference if they were ripped with a 160 or 128 bitrate, and 96 sounds terrible to me. I won't even download anything ripped at 96.

I think my high frequency hearing is pretty good for my age. Then there's the rest of it. There are very few cars that I can't hear pull up in front, and that is through closed, double pane windows.

Now if I could only see.

But I do understand, somewhat, the plight of the deaf. A late good friend of mine had deaf Parents. His Father got it from heredity, and his Mother went deaf because of sulfa drugs used to treat menengitis. This was one guy who could really say that when he cried in the night noone came. In fact he was born with a congenital defect in one ear. Apparently he had a cochlea, but a highly renowned ENT had to build him an eardrum, hammer and stirrup, something like that. Talk about building a ship in a bottle.

I knew him before he moved out on his own, I got along well with his Parents, there was quite a bit of difficulty in comminicating with them. They liked me for the usual reasons, they had a very strong work ethic, so there were two things they liked about me, I had a job and I never moved in with them.

So I do know what a pain it is being deaf. When one is totally deaf their speech will start to degrade, many of them have to go to speech therapy from time to time. They get so hard to understand and have to say everything three times. Even when they can read lips, communication is different. Even when a hearing person uses a word they are not familiar with how does one explain ? To a hearing person you just say "It means ______", but you can't do that. Needless to say they always had plenty of pens and paper in the house.

So they could not hear us cranking the tunes, or what we were talking about. But they could communicate without us hearing either. When talking to each other they would not use their voice. They read each others' lips.

They both had jobs. He made dentures and she taught sign language. They had money, and I do not know why the doctors could not cure their hearing. I think what it is that once the cochlea is damaged it is all over. The little bones and eardrum can apparently be rebuilt. From what I understand there are little hairlike members inside that actually pick up the sound.

Hmmm, something occurred to me. Hair loss and hearing loss seem to occur in the same people. One source attributes both to a deficiency of the trace mineral tin. I wonder if that holds water.

I don't want to get on a soapbox about minerals right now, but I'd like to point out one thing. Mineral deficiencies are not always caused by a lack in the diet, sometimes the body simply does not absorb them properly. That could be hereditary. If so it would explain a few things.

The disease is not always caused immediately. In the natal stage, your body basically ripped off your Mother's body for every mineral it needs to develop. That is why gestational diabetes occurs. You can thank her later. But the way of life is the fetus comes first.

Then once the umbilical cord is cut eventually it all goes downhill. In what specific way varies from person to person. I can't see, you can't hear, the guy next door who is my age has no hair. A friend of mine lost his teeth in his twenties. My Mother's ex Husband had gray hair since his twenties.

I have studied this for many years, but information that pertains to what I want is very scarce. I want to know what makes the difference.

Would I trade good hearing for good eyesight ? Or more strength and endurance ? I can't answer that right now.

There's one good thing about how I am now. At least I am used to it.

This is long enough, I'll be baaack.

T

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