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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 3:27:32 PM   
butterflydame


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an enema is simply any liquid injected into the rectum. There isn't anything in the world that is more of an enema than the next. One may be more of the norm than the other but they are all the same. Doesn't matter there is came from. That is only your opinion.

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en·e·ma n. pl.

1. The injection of liquid into the rectum through the anus for cleansing, for stimulating evacuation of the bowels, or for other therapeutic or diagnostic purposes.
2. The fluid so injected.

Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 3:30:45 PM   
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Sure, sorry when i talk of nature teraphy and things like that i tend to get a bit to eager and talk and talk, another tread, sorry for hijaking.

butterflydame, where it came from dont matter as mutch as how fast.

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 3:35:48 PM   
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But whether it's you or a character you made up, you presented a situation in which someone clearly didn't know what they were doing, thought "sterilizing" meant something different than it does, thought that because these hook-up are sold in BDSM catalogues that they're safe, dismissed the risk of ruptured colon and morbid electrolyte imbalance (even though she's pregnant), and for all her research, had somehow missed the part about enemas and cramps. So with that limited knowledge of you, I felt a small snark was in order.


Morbid electrolyte imbalace? With one enema? Even a totally empty colon couldn't hold enough water to absorb enough water in that amount of time. Seems a bit illogical to me.

Edited to add: She never said she didn't expect cramps. What she didn't expect was for them to be so intense.

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 3:47:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren


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ORIGINAL: frenchpet

Ahem... hem... I don't want to disturb such a nice fight, but I think post #19 clearly states that the enemas wouldn't happen before the baby is born.


I may have lost track since I'm not following this stream closely but I do recall that the initial post indicated that the enema had already taken place.

<confused


Oops, my bad... I got confused by the statement saying that nothing extreme would happen before the baby is born.
I didn't say anything then, keep fighting.

edit : well of course there's no way you would call an enema extreme play, but if it's not done properly, with cold water etc, and a baby involved...

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 4:40:55 PM   
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Any play might get dangerous, extreme play is simply more to the dangerous side and therefore have a shorter distance to go and less room for error before danger sets in.

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 5:33:16 PM   
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::not getting involved in this one::
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ORIGINAL: frenchpet

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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren


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ORIGINAL: frenchpet

Ahem... hem... I don't want to disturb such a nice fight, but I think post #19 clearly states that the enemas wouldn't happen before the baby is born.


I may have lost track since I'm not following this stream closely but I do recall that the initial post indicated that the enema had already taken place.

<confused


Oops, my bad... I got confused by the statement saying that nothing extreme would happen before the baby is born.
I didn't say anything then, keep fighting.

edit : well of course there's no way you would call an enema extreme play, but if it's not done properly, with cold water etc, and a baby involved...

quote:

Oops, my bad... I got confused by the statement saying that nothing extreme would happen before the baby is born.
I didn't say anything then, keep fighting.

edit : well of course there's no way you would call an enema extreme play, but if it's not done properly, with cold water etc, and a baby involved...

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 5:53:34 PM   
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This is Nella's Master writing. I have a fair bit of medical experience, as well as having extensively interviewed open-minded doctors about this, and would like to offer you the following advice:


a fair bit of medical experience? meaning what you've done Doctor/patient scenes or you went to school for it? My ob/gyn has been practicing for over 20 years, and i will be getting an enema while in labor and he okayed me to do this while pregnant, even in my third trimester as long as its not an everyday thing and as long as NO chemicals or anything is used other then soap.

Also, the hose was no more then i'd say an inch inside me since it was my first time if something felt wrong i wanted to be able to remove it easily and quickly, and it didn't run for a very long time and the tempature (which i check with a themometer was at 95F since my body tempature is usually close to that. Thank you for your suggestions.

Oh, and my baby is doing quite well. Very healthy. My doctor even okayed most ALL my other insane activities but i'm sure if i listed them ya'll would freak out and call the cops on me for abuse. I guess my kinks aren't okay around here.

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 5:58:28 PM   
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Local laws in your erea may wary but at least where i live it is considerd criminaly negligent to do so. An enema is one thing, to use the shower nose is another, is your erea have any laws to protect an unborn child and as far as i and my Master know there is, this is Criminal, it is not a scare tactic, it is criminal period.

Is she doing the right thing when coming here asking questions yes, is she doing the right thing when ignoring everyone saying that this is dangerous no. One wal talk of everything one give up when one choose to become a slave, well you give up a few things when you choose to become pragnid to, this baby is way over the time for legal abotion, and she is endangering the child, simple as that.


WHOA! back up.. i live in Ohio... the USA... for those of you who don't know. And it is NOT illegal for me to do such a thing. It is only harming the baby if i put beer up my ass and leave it in. Jesus people, don't start going off about me being a criminal, you just took that WAY to far. Thats insane. I see you're from norway, i guess i'll never visit there if ya'll got crazy laws like that. And as far as abortion, don't you EVER speak of such a thing to me again. You don't know me, nor my past, even what i look like. If you want to bring up such things that intense, do so in a private conversation with someone who gives two shits. Thank you and have a nice day!

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 6:02:50 PM   
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my Master has read up alot on medical information, maily to find ways to treat my dperession that is treatment resistant, she he can sugest thigns to the doctors, but he has a werry good knowledge of medical issues to be a layman.

Now, what did you doctor say, did he say ok enema, becouse that i understand and it seam ok, or did he say ok use the shower nussle. What we are discussing here is not the use of an enema, but the fact that a shower nussel, can deliver alot of wather in a short time, even if you put it on a slow running, somthing can happen to the pressure in the shower and out go the water in some speed. Take a ballon and tie it to the nussel, now normaly everything will be fine and the ballon will be filled whit wather, but if somthing go wrong...pop says the ballon. Filling pepole up whit wather in the behind was a way Japaneese nazis used to execute pepole, it can kill you and it can kill the child. Now usualy it will not happen, usualy all will be fine, but do you realy want to take the risk? If i were you, i would rather risk the embarshment of my parents finding an enema set, if nessesary say it was somthing the doctor told would be good to do for your preganancy, than risk inguring myself and my child.

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 6:03:33 PM   
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Well what i am saying is true, it can cause complication whit the prganacy and even get laybor started to early. If she get scared by what she is writing, she needs to get scared. i am not telling lies to scare here, i am telling the truth, i dont realy give a rats ass whatever or not somone i dont know endager themself, i think pepole should be aloved to do whit their body as they want, but now another person is involved, and what she is doing CAN werry negativly afect that other person.



Also, if you don't care what i do.. then DON'T REPLY... my child is safe as can be. I listen to her heart beat every night, i feel her kick me all day, and i get ultra sounds every two months. She's very healthy. And trust me i've done far worse things then shove a hose up my ass and turn it on for a few seconds since i've been pregnant. I'm sure you'd LOVE to rant on those, shall we discuss how illegal those are? or would you rather bash me at a different time?

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 6:08:28 PM   
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NOR do you know that enema's are administered at birth, used to be mandatory, but now its only mandatory in certain hospitals.

Actually, I did know that-- but if you can find a hospital that uses a shower hose and the sort of water pressure that household pipes provide, and calls THAT an enema, then I'll be surprised.

Of course I don't know you-- I only know what you've posted here. For all I know, you made it up, and just told a story about someone doing a foolish thing. In that case, you're not foolish, just creative (and only your character is foolish).

But whether it's you or a character you made up, you presented a situation in which someone clearly didn't know what they were doing, thought "sterilizing" meant something different than it does, thought that because these hook-up are sold in BDSM catalogues that they're safe, dismissed the risk of ruptured colon and morbid electrolyte imbalance (even though she's pregnant), and for all her research, had somehow missed the part about enemas and cramps. So with that limited knowledge of you, I felt a small snark was in order.

http://www.darwinawards.com/legends/legends1998-06.html

It's not like I could email you-- aren't you forbidden to receive private messages?



No you can email me, Daddy just monitors the emails, i'm not allowed to recieve PM's... and snark if you wish, that i didn't mind i laughed myself, but saying i have no idea what i'm doing when i did research it, and i know about the cramps BUT i did not expect something that intense was what i stated in the OP.

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 6:08:47 PM   
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OK this stops now and doesnt continue because personal attacks are not looked on as helpful. Anymore and the thread will be locked.Keep on topic with no personal attacks.Take disagreements that are personal off the forum and into private.

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 6:18:25 PM   
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my Master has read up alot on medical information, maily to find ways to treat my dperession that is treatment resistant, she he can sugest thigns to the doctors, but he has a werry good knowledge of medical issues to be a layman.

Now, what did you doctor say, did he say ok enema, becouse that i understand and it seam ok, or did he say ok use the shower nussle. What we are discussing here is not the use of an enema, but the fact that a shower nussel, can deliver alot of wather in a short time, even if you put it on a slow running, somthing can happen to the pressure in the shower and out go the water in some speed. Take a ballon and tie it to the nussel, now normaly everything will be fine and the ballon will be filled whit wather, but if somthing go wrong...pop says the ballon. Filling pepole up whit wather in the behind was a way Japaneese nazis used to execute pepole, it can kill you and it can kill the child. Now usualy it will not happen, usualy all will be fine, but do you realy want to take the risk? If i were you, i would rather risk the embarshment of my parents finding an enema set, if nessesary say it was somthing the doctor told would be good to do for your preganancy, than risk inguring myself and my child.


he researched your issues not mine... depression and enemas hrmmm how does that go??? my doctor stated and ill quote this word for word "Enema's are completely fine as long as you only use water and soap or just plain water. NOTHING else is to be used. The water should be almost to your body tempature, and only use a tiny bit to start then go further. "... then i asked what about using my shower head nozzle... he said " there are better ways to do it, but its not unsafe. Just more unusual. Just be sure to clean it thoroghly, then sterlize it with alcohol, then for the first time i suggest you only do it for a few seconds (which i did, since you people think i had it in my ass for an hour or something) hold it in for about 10-15 minutes, and report back to me if anything happens out of the ordinary"... then i asked whats ordinary, he gave me a sheet on enema's how they work, effects, purposes, etc. That was our whole conversation. This week while i'm at the doctors i'm going to report my lovely play time to him. BTW Japanese nazi's are cruel creatures who would let it run and run and run till it exploded, same with a balloon darlin.. i didn't let it run till my insides burst. Also that whole abortoin gig ya'll are speaking off.. i'm offended hugely by that majorly because you obviously are speaking of a non voluntary abortion aka miscarriage. Don't say abortion if you only mean it to be a miscarriage. Abortions a huge topic, and one i will not get into, but that is NOT how an actuall abortion occurs nor will it ever occur like that.

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 6:28:26 PM   
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i think the major concern is not enemas themselves...but how you explained this one...an enema itself is not dangerous when using correct methods...the danger comes from things such as water pressure...the water pressure from a shower hose is very dangerous...and is really hard to moniter and adjust...

personally i don't see what you did as being a bad mother to be...i see it as inexperinced...(and i don't mean that as an attack)it is much safer not only for the baby but also for yourself to use a proper enema kit...

your doctor may have okayed using enemas...i don't doubt that..but if nothing else...if you don't believe the warnings given here...please please please verify with your doctor..ask your doctor if it is safe to use the shower hose...you can go to any pharmacy and buy one for 10 dollars...they even have 3 use in one kits...hot water bottle, douche, enema all in one...if its found you can say you bought the kit for hot water bottle use or douche...

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 6:38:47 PM   
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personally i don't see what you did as being a bad mother to be...i see it as inexperinced...(and i don't mean that as an attack)it is much safer not only for the baby but also for yourself to use a proper enema kit...



Thanks and you're right I am inexperienced, thats why i'm here, and thats why i did research. That's why i'm asking for advice and help. And my Doctor did okay the use of it.. one other thing i didnt mention in my reply to nella, my doctors a bit of a Dom himself, and he explained to me when people go in for actual colon cleansing that the flow is about as much as a shower head(this was before i asked if i could use one) with the head taken off.. it doesn't start like that, but its gains up to that much pressure.

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 7:02:57 PM   
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It's weird...how on every topic this poster posts, she goes from complete novice asking for advice because she knows nothing in her first post, to a sudden expert that has referred to doctors or professionals by the end of the second page.

I call troll.

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 8:10:31 PM   
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It's weird...how on every topic this poster posts, she goes from complete novice asking for advice because she knows nothing in her first post, to a sudden expert that has referred to doctors or professionals by the end of the second page.

I call troll.



read the OP before you say ne thing further. I said i did my research, i just didn't list all the info i obtained and from whom, until i had lovely people bashing my sources, and knowledge.

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RE: odd enemas - 9/20/2005 8:11:54 PM   
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Thanks for all your information... i am asking that this be locked ... to many people don't know how to reply to the question and just want to be cruel. For those of you who actually helped me... thank you very much...

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RE: odd enemas - 9/21/2005 1:02:37 AM   
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