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EU Pigs spending my money as usual and I hate Neil Kinnock


I want to quit the EU
  25% (1)
I don't want to quit the EU
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I would quit the EU if I was part of it.
  75% (3)
I wouldn't quit the EU if I was part of it.
  0% (0)
Sure spend my money on yourself Mr Pig MEP.
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EU Pigs spending my money as usual and I hate Neil Kinnock - 3/1/2008 12:08:23 PM   
SL4V3M4YB3


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People always ask what is so bad about being part of the EU. I say this is:

Then
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/3027212.stm
Now
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2008/02/fighting_against_fraud_1.html

Why is it people aren’t more incensed by this? This is our money they are fritting away. Grrrr I say.

The simple fact is that accountability is harder if things are decentralised so why do we put up with it and why don't our Government insist that that report into corruption is published? What is it they want to hide and why is it they have the right to hide it from us?


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RE: EU Pigs spending my money as usual and I hate Neil ... - 3/1/2008 12:23:48 PM   
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at least quality of life issues are considerred.  like the noise of an airplane- the Rhine river??? being cleaned up.  food safety-  people are more aware that food gets tainted.

the safety net is said to be better in EU.

--the states vary. PA is in the top 3.  but even so- it can be dismal.

just my observation from across the pond.    comments?

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RE: EU Pigs spending my money as usual and I hate Neil ... - 3/1/2008 7:12:16 PM   
christine1


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well the frittering away of money isn't inclusive for the EU government, and yes it is annoying....

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RE: EU Pigs spending my money as usual and I hate Neil ... - 3/2/2008 5:56:37 AM   
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The problem with the EU, is that it was sold to us in the early 70s as a free trade area, the benefits of which are clear - but it has become something more, and the people of the UK and many other countries too, are uneasy about what it has become and is becoming - at least from what we in the UK understand it to be from the anti-EU Murdoch press, whose influence is so great here that "popular opinion" is whatever it is saying.

The situation isnt improved by politicians who trot out such arguments in debate as "the EU makes it possible for us to retire to Spain". What that sort of comment means, is that we have signed away much of our sovereignty, so that we have access to seafront properties on the costas? But what it also means is that there are no clear benefits to ordinary people - for if there were, surely these would be paraded before us and the debate would be ended?

The Murdoch influence is also what keeps us in Europe but outside it too - our government must maintain a distance or face bad press, and our politicians in general must avoid talking about Europe for the same reasons. Meanwhile we have UKIP taking places in the EU "government" because people vote in on protest, a party whose aim is to remove us from the EU.

We need the EU - in combination with the rest of Europe we are much stronger in the world; but if we are to be forever where we are now rather than at the heart of things as we need to be, then the UK will always be on the receiving end of the legislation without being able to derive benefit from the EU.

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