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angelbluewingsz -> RE: Curious: why so many male doms (3/8/2008 11:21:50 AM)
I agree with whomever said it's a pissing contest and men just want to piss on everything... but seriously though, being the smarter sex has long been a secret we women have kept but I am only left to assume that some subverter has leaked this valuable information to the other side and they are now trying to gain some intel so as to overthrow the world!~ I'm going with charolette ... "you lack spinnerettes and you lack knowhow"

CreativeDominant -> RE: Curious: why so many male doms (3/8/2008 12:01:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus Other viewpoints are welcome. Rudeness, high handed behavior, and name calling are not. Simple. But you would have to concede that with many female dominants, all it takes is a male dominant expressing a viewpoint differing from theirs for the male dominant to be considered...by some, certainly not the majority...rude or high-handed, would you not?

Politesub53 -> RE: Curious: why so many male doms (3/8/2008 12:02:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama Like it or not, this board is divided into topics of interest; the Mistress forum is for female dominants. Hi Ma`am, i don`t actually agree with this. The section is titled " Ask a Mistress " and is open to anyone to post in, providing they stick to the TOS

ShaktiSama -> RE: Curious: why so many male doms (3/8/2008 2:19:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 Hi Ma`am, i don`t actually agree with this. The section is titled " Ask a Mistress " and is open to anyone to post in, providing they stick to the TOS Yes, Politesub, I understand what you are saying, and we all agree with this in principle. However, the simple fact is that the people we're talking about often don't stick to the TOS--they violate the spirit of the ToS quite often. Also, the forum description says "Ask your Question, Share Your Experience". Many other forum descriptions begin with the word "Open Discussion of Matters Relating to--", but this one does not. The implication being that this forum is intended to have a more specific theme and content. Just to clarify, TOS explicitly states that: quote: This isn't a place to insult the kinks, preferences, lifestyles, etc. of others. If you don't like what another person enjoys, rest assured that there are plenty of others out there that probably don't like your activities either. Furthermore, baiting, harassment and personal attacks will not be tolerated. A lot of the posts we're discussing--including a few on this thread--fall directly into the "baiting, harassment and personal attack" category. I've stopped responding to them here simply because there's no sense in cooperating with someone whose agenda is to increase the ratio of noise to signal. However, the fact remains: people who do not have questions to ask or experiences to share, as per the forum description, might at least try to be courteous guests and not play "chicken" with the TOS. Male dominants CAN express opinions which are categorically offensive, and sometimes do--as when they come around to announce that "Female dominance doesn't exist." They can also state innocuous or silly opinions in impolite ways, i.e., "I really like rocky road ice cream, you arrogant bitch." And of course they can also start off making an innocuous contribution and then freak out if someone disagres or challenges their opinions, as when they get wound up after a few posts and start calling dominant women "little girl", "little upstart", "fucked up", etc--or start calling submissive men "boy", for that matter. Regardless, I find it hard to believe that any of the male dominants who have posted to this thread would be thrilled to be on the receiving end of this kind of garbage. But I would be happy to call them "fucked up" and demand to know who abused them to transform them from healthy, normal submissive men into awful, damaged, messed up doms, if that makes them happy. And if I have to, I can start saying "You wanna be treated like a nasty little boy?" whenever anyone with a penis disagrees with me. I can even start contemptuously calling female submissives "girl". I just think that it would make me a bit of a jackass. [:D]

SixFootMaster -> RE: Curious: why so many male doms (3/8/2008 3:46:50 PM)
This is another of those posts where you blatantly miss the irony in your own words. Shakti, you're as guilty of baiting, and personal attacks as anyone who has posted in any of the recent threads on this boards, regardless of orientation and gender. It's the kind of thing that makes me shake my head and laugh, and then make a post like this that attempts to highlight to you how hypocritical you are being. Very much a case of "Do as I say, not as I do", or not practicing what you preach. Your last two posts on this thread are laced with bait and language that you have to admit is designed to inflame the people you are posting about. You also confuse posts of entirely different tone, and completely different authors and suggest some sort of implicit relationship. Sorry, but there isn't one. Domiguy showed up, made one post, which was subsequently deleted. I'm guess by the fact that he hasn't been back that the moderator had a word with him about it. Likewise you continue to alledge in your defence something that never happened - a blatantly incorrect characterisation of the post regarding "little upstart" - even though it's been explained succinctly right down to the base language, in this very thread. Now, that's just willful and deliberate. You can mis-characterise everything I, Aswad, or anyone else says. However, you ought not mislead yourself into thinking everyone is deceived by such practices, or that they won't catch on to your M.O. quickly enough. Or that it won't be pointed out to everyone's benefit. Aswad and I are actively trying to diffuse and ease the tensions here, talking to board members and even making the occasional light hearted post - you seem content to continue inflame them. Anyone can draw their own conclusions from that. Six.

MISTRESSKUMA -> RE: Curious: why so many male doms (3/8/2008 4:34:05 PM)
You showed your true colors when you came in here with your divide and conquer attitude calling this place a "closed culture .....breeding ground of ignorance and ultimately damaging to any participants." Thanks. What makes you so special? I have to say I found your comment insulting and misplaced. Do you actually enjoy being a child? Or even a know-it-all or judge? Is it your life-long goal to never grow up?. Were you that spoiled during adolescence, and are you really that adamant and dedicated to continue stomping your hooves for the rest of your adult life? Here's the truth (and it will set you free): YOU, my dear, are actually the hugest part of the problem here. It's your attitude, baby. You've watched w-a-a-a-a-y too much TV and have overdosed on the koolaid. Here, this is step 1 in the rehab program, repeat after me: "I AM NO MORE OR LESS SPECIAL THAN ANYONE ELSE ON THIS PLANET, PERIOD." Say it fifty times a day, every day, at sun-up, sundown, when you rise, your last words before you sleep. Face the east, the west, whatever direction you're most comfortable with. Bonus points if you say it while staring at yourself in a mirror. Try looking at yourself in the eye while doing it. Try seeing yourself for who and what you really are. Repeat: Try seeing yourself for who and what you really are. Great therapy, and really cheap! Oh wait, I hear you say (and lots of others, not to worry, you're not alone on that sinking ship): of course I'm special, I'm very special, and because I am, I deserve/demand/require that I be treated especially different.... Okay, fine. That's the popular psycho-babble that's all the rage these days (years, decades, millenia, etc.). Great. So if it's okay for you to feel that way, then fairness (you're all for fairness, aren't you?) seems to require that you accept that me, her, him, and all the other "thems" in the world can feel that way (and act according to such an attitude) also, right? Wonderful! So if you're special, too, then I'm special, very special, also......so I too deserve/require/demand that I be treated (and have the right, morally and legally) especially different: ShaktiSama: They can only twist your points to make it into an argument they can combat. Bunch of big babies. Sheesh.

SixFootMaster -> RE: Curious: why so many male doms (3/8/2008 5:46:32 PM)
Careful, Skuma, you're close to breaching ToS according to Shakti. SixFeetOfIron(y). P.S. We don't have koolaid in Australia.

ShaktiSama -> RE: Curious: why so many male doms (3/8/2008 6:24:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MISTRESSKUMA ShaktiSama: They can only twist your points to make it into an argument they can combat. Bunch of big babies. Sheesh. Yep. I've had this particular guy blocked since his last threadjack, where he was calling adult human beings "boy". I suppose I really should report the weird cyberstalking he seems to be doing, but then I would have to unblock him and actually go back to reading his posts. [:'(]

SixFootMaster -> RE: Curious: why so many male doms (3/8/2008 6:41:53 PM)
Oh come now, stalking is when I actually care where you are and whether you reply or not. Six.

TemptingNviceSub -> RE: Curious: why so many male doms (3/9/2008 12:04:13 AM)
Like it or not, this board is divided into topics of interest; the Mistress forum is for female dominants. If a man can't emotionally cope with women who are not inclined to obey him or parrot his views, probably not a great place for him to be. [;)] Hummm....So you are saying those of us who are not Mistresses, are parrots? are you saying, because I am submissive/female, that I feel inclined to obey all male Dominants?....I think my feathers are in a ruffle!!!!!!..BWACKKK!!!!..Tempting

MisPandora -> RE: Curious: why so many male doms (3/9/2008 12:13:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact Not to reopen what has been, at times, a difficult debate. When bouncing around the forums yesterday, I came across a thread in the "Master" section that began a rather good discussion. It wasn't especially on what the OP had hoped, but the subsequent issue became more interesting. This actually prompted Me to repost a part of the thread, so that I could ask a question in the Gorean forum. I do have to say that I was pleased with the result. I felt that My quesiton, and Myself, were treated with courtesy, even though I made it readily apparent that I very specifically was an outsider. There were no snarky comments that I didn't belong there. No disrespect for being such a twit that I couldn't figure the answer out for Myself. No one attempted to treat Me more or less than I would have been treated on any other forum. I came away with some good information. <shrug> I'm just saying...... I'm glad you had that experience. What maddens me is when folks pull this power play against others. In the end, I think that some (on both sides of the equation and of both genders) forget that we're people talking to people until someone chooses to submit to you...and there is no protocol that says one must be deferential to females or dominants or whatever.

LadyJeelys -> RE: Curious: why so many male doms (3/9/2008 7:36:37 AM)
I personall don't care if someone disagrees with me, orders me to my knees, calls me names or whatever. I'm big girl, physically and emotionally, so I just look at those things as either silly, ignorant or at worst verbal frontulism. But, where I really get annoyed...and where I think things cross the line is when Maledoms makes statements about or talk down to malesubs. I would no more show disrepect to a femsub by calling her "girl" than reach out an smack someone without invitation. As far as I'm concerned, its just rude and malesubs have to put up with enough rude from hamfisted Dommes without having to put up with it from guys too.

SixFootMaster -> RE: Curious: why so many male doms (3/9/2008 2:41:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyJeelys I personall don't care if someone disagrees with me, orders me to my knees, calls me names or whatever. I'm big girl, physically and emotionally, so I just look at those things as either silly, ignorant or at worst verbal frontulism. But, where I really get annoyed...and where I think things cross the line is when Maledoms makes statements about or talk down to malesubs. I would no more show disrepect to a femsub by calling her "girl" than reach out an smack someone without invitation. As far as I'm concerned, its just rude and malesubs have to put up with enough rude from hamfisted Dommes without having to put up with it from guys too. Then it behooves male subs to maintain respectful tone too. One does not come without the other. Anyway, the issue was resolved with the man in question, and we shared a joke later. Six.

LadyJeelys -> RE: Curious: why so many male doms (3/9/2008 5:51:19 PM)
I'm sure the gentleman in question has truly resolved the issue with you.....The problem is, the conversation occured in an open forum, with other folks reading your words. That lack of respect shown to a malesub colors everything else you've posted.

SixFootMaster -> RE: Curious: why so many male doms (3/9/2008 7:04:41 PM)
As I said, Lady Jeelys, respect is a two-way street. It's irrelevant whether he is a male sub, or if he had been a witch in pink stockings. Now, if you see fit to over-look and/or encourage disrespect that's your business. I prefer to "nip it in the bud" so to speak. Six.

MisPandora -> RE: Curious: why so many male doms (3/9/2008 8:24:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SixFootMaster As I said, Lady Jeelys, respect is a two-way street. It's irrelevant whether he is a male sub, or if he had been a witch in pink stockings. Now, if you see fit to over-look and/or encourage disrespect that's your business. I prefer to "nip it in the bud" so to speak. Six. No respectable witch would be caught dead wearing pink stockings.

SixFootMaster -> RE: Curious: why so many male doms (3/9/2008 10:48:04 PM)
What if they were pink and black striped? WickedSixOfTheEast.

LadyJeelys -> RE: Curious: why so many male doms (3/10/2008 4:11:55 AM)
It does make a difference if he is a malesub in a Femdom forum. Forgiven or not, it created the impression that certain maledoms feel they have a right, by dent of being maledoms, to talk down to malesubs......something I'm sure just about everyone has seen happen again and again and again. Also, as you know as well as I, respect isn't a two way street. We make the choice in out interactions of whether we choose to give and show respect...irregardless of the merit of the receiver of that respect. Poor behavior on the part of another does not require poor behavior on our parts. Especially when, as in this case, we know from experience that subs of either gender get dumped on all the time....and male subs in particular really get dumped on (and not always in the desired way). Again, I'm sure you're a nice person....but that post coloured everything you wrote afterwards.

Dnomyar -> RE: Curious: why so many male doms (3/10/2008 7:39:06 AM)
Mmmm If I said some of the things that are being said on here the MOD would be on my ass. Who do you people know?

GoodgirlFind -> RE: Curious: why so many male doms (3/10/2008 7:48:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyJeelys It does make a difference if he is a malesub in a Femdom forum. Forgiven or not, it created the impression that certain maledoms feel they have a right, by dent of being maledoms, to talk down to malesubs......something I'm sure just about everyone has seen happen again and again and again. People seem to forget that male subs are not subs to the world. They are not doormat to the world. They are men making a decision to give up power to a woman of their choice. Seems like that takes more strength. I don't get why some male doms think male subs are so different. They are only different in a few ways, the first being they treat women with respect. quote: ORIGINAL: LadyJeelys Poor behavior on the part of another does not require poor behavior on our parts. ....but that post coloured everything you wrote afterwards. I hope all male doms aren't bullies like the six foot bully. Just look at how many times he came running in here to belittle people. He's the poster child for the topic of this thread. A smirk speaks volumes.

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