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ORIGINAL: Smith117
You would, perhaps. However that is the least sanitary option. And in the field, lack of good sanitary practice can cripple a unit as fast as a firefight. What if the animal *were* diseased? Cutting it open and then putting that disease-filled bloody knife back with your equipment would be a *bad* idea. So we talk of shooting the animal. Ok, and perhaps there were suspected insurgent activity around and a single shot would either expost our guys or let them know we were coming.

There are MANY factors in this that don't and may never know. What we *saw* was fucked up. But it's a 15 second snip of (one of) a guy's year-long or longer stay in a warzone. You can say what we saw is fucked up....but assuming that we know all the details at this point is jumping the gun a bit.

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MRE? Could you please explain, I do not know what that means.

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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

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MRE? Could you please explain, I do not know what that means.

Meal Ready  to Eat.  How military personnel get fed in the field.

(also known as a Meal Refusing to Exit)

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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

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MRE? Could you please explain, I do not know what that means.

Meal Ready  to Eat.  How military personnel get fed in the field.

(also known as a Meal Refusing to Exit)

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*snicker* I never had that problem, except with any of the turkey meals....LOL

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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

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MRE? Could you please explain, I do not know what that means.

Meal Ready  to Eat.  How military personnel get fed in the field.

(also known as a Meal Refusing to Exit)

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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112
The turkey meals quite frankly I classified as Meals Refusing to Enter.

(and I like turkey!)

I soooo needed that.

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

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ORIGINAL: Zensee

Actually, Invictus, serial killers, as children, generally cut their teeth torturing animals to death. It's a symptom of severe mental illness, not some sort of by product of being in a war. People like him will soon be coming home to live amongst you and while you might be comfortable having a psychopath for a buddy, many sane people would not.

If he'd had to choose between the death of a person and the puppy, that would be understandable. This was an act of casual cruelty, done for the approving eye of the camera and his comrades. It was not a mercy killing. If the dog had needed to be put down, any reasonable person would have done so discretely, not in a grandstanding manner, capped by a little WTF shoulder shrug.

Are you seriously suggesting this video is a put up job? Someone made a special effects puppy and did a few hours of  CGI on their home computer? Did you look at it frame by frame. Would you like another straw to grasp at?

You can defend his actions with fantasies about rabid puppies menacing marine batalions but I'm not buying your rationalisations.


Z.

yanno, I like you :)

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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster
Anywhoooo, reputedly, the fuckwad in chief tortured animals as a young apprentice asshole.

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ORIGINAL: charmdpetKeira

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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster
Anywhoooo, reputedly, the fuckwad in chief tortured animals as a young apprentice asshole.

Could you please explain this statement; who are you refering to as the "fuckwad in chief"?
 
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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

That's the first thing you got right in this whole thread.

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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

Nice try, but straw man arguments are passe and pathetic. 

Next guess?

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

As far as the cliff thing though.. since (AFAIK) there are no videos showing the actual drop from the cliff, we have no way of knowing if the pup hit the bottom at a great height and died.. if it hit the bottom and wandered off (slightly dazed, but ok), or if it hit the bottom, and was critically wounded and left to die in a most painful and heinous manner...

a knife to the throat, or a snapped neck would have assured it of a quick death.  NOT that I condone doing that to any living creature, but it certainly would have been more humane than tossing it off a cliff and walking away without knowing what the end result was.  Just my .05.

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

According to Snopes, this guy's tour was less than a year.. 7 months, I believe.  And I believe that the basic training includes lessons on how to clean the weapons in the field.  Since the weapons in the field (except for medics) are not generally expected to be used for "sanitary' uses, I don't see what your point is.

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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

The current resident of 1600 PA Ave.

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ORIGINAL: bamabbwsub
When people make their voices heard about this type of behavior, enough to get federal laws changed, it shouldn't come as any surprise to learn why there is so much outrage about the puppy-throwing video. Real or not, it is just sick, and to the millions of pet owners in the US alone -- who spend BILLIONS of dollars on their pets, BTW -- it is very much akin to throwing a human infant off a cliff. Senseless.

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ORIGINAL: Invictus754

What I think is senseless is that we spend billions on pets, but we still have homeless PEOPLE.  That we won't even take care of our own species first is amazing to me.  It should be a felony to feed an animal that is a pet before all the humans on the planet have enough to eat.

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ORIGINAL: Lynnxz

The guy on the radio said this dude was doing training in Hawaii. Not Iraq. Anyway, he's still a jerk for throwing a puppy just for the sake of having it on camera.