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Has any one ev er used boiled water from cooking eggs o... - 3/7/2008 8:10:51 PM   
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I heard somewhere that the water would have a little bit of nutriants from what was boiled and would be good for your plants. We usualy just dump the water out there by wasting water that could be used on our plants.

Has any one ever had any negative effects on the plants? Other than just not wasting water by using double the a mount, does it actually do anything for the plants?
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RE: Has any one ev er used boiled water from cooking eg... - 3/7/2008 8:35:22 PM   
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Probably not. but its water, so it can't hurt.

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RE: Has any one ev er used boiled water from cooking eg... - 3/7/2008 9:08:02 PM   
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WEll a lot of the gardening sites, that are all about green gardening says that nutrients from the boilded food will leach into the water an be nice for the plants, but I agree either way it's water.

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RE: Has any one ev er used boiled water from cooking eg... - 3/7/2008 9:36:27 PM   
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Good god... when I first read the title of your thread, I thought you meant "has any one ever drank used boiled water from eggs"  .



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RE: Has any one ev er used boiled water from cooking eg... - 3/7/2008 9:52:39 PM   
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Actually that is not a bad idea in theory, but our food is so depleted in minerals that the amount of nutrients the plant would get would be infinitesimal. And if you use it plants that you do not intend to eat, in a way you are throwing out nutrients, if any.

Now I really can't tell if this is a hijack or not because I don't know which perspective you have on the subject. Is this about enhancing the health of your houseplants or is it about what to do with water that has been used for cooking ?

In either case it is known that there are nutrients in the water if something with nutrients was boiled in it. Soup is a perfect example. Although I don't eat it much anymore, when you make mashed potatoes and gravy, we use the water from the potatoes for it. Of late, we use a better quality potato and leave the skin on. So it might have a very small positive effect. What's more when you make gravy you are putting starch in water, well, there's some water with a little bit of starch already in it.

I'll use it to make black gravy. My Ma invented it I think, but maybe not first. She made this gravy that was so black it almost looked loke paint. For normal gravy I will use milk, but for black gravy you want that potato water. Nice and warm and the flour suspends quite easily. See for black gravy you can't add quarts of water. That is the thing, the flavor is so strong it beats any gravy mix hands down. It only works on beef or pork roasts, nothing else, and pork is better.

On the other aspect of this, if you water your plants with waste water like that, I don't see how it would harm them. May or may not help them, but it should not harm them. Even if the only real benefit is that you reduce your water consumption an eentsy bit, it is still for the better.

In some areas water consumption is a serious issue. For that, as well as the other reasons, perhaps we should reevaluate just what we throw down the drain every day.

If your focus is on helping the plants, there are alot of things you can do. And if you are talking about an herb garden, they need certain things alot of other plants do not need. There is a reason that certain species' will not grow in certain areas of the world, and it is not climate. They are stupid sometimes, but they are not stupid enough to plant orange trees in the Arctic Circle.

It depends on what you are growing.

T

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RE: Has any one ev er used boiled water from cooking eg... - 3/7/2008 11:43:45 PM   
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I'd be more inclined, if we were talking about filtered water and organic eggs.

But the concept is interesting. 

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RE: Has any one ev er used boiled water from cooking eg... - 3/8/2008 12:01:17 AM   
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As an experienced organic gardener (whose egg producers were raised rather wild and free) and as a retired Naturopathic Physician I can tell you that the water from boiled foods definately contains minerals (and gasses)... most of the vitamins have been killed, all of the enzymes are dead, but the minerals are very much alive and potent.  for example, when boiling unpeeled (but well-washed) potatoes if one uses a good deal of extra water and boils them a bit longer than one might otherwise, one can then eat the potatoes and save the potato water in the fridge where it will lasts for 3 or maybe even 4 days before it goes bad.  and this water will contain enough magnesium and potassium to counteract the negative side effects of using diuretics (prescription or herbal) and most important of all WILL DISSOLVE KIDNEY AND GALLSTONES so that you can pass the stones easily with no pain!!  I have used this with many dozens of my "clients" and students with no side effects and no failures!  oh, excuse me, I do remember one elderly lady who waited far too long to come to me while she took every darn medication the allopaths could think to give her.  she died of heart failure before the potato water could completely dissolve her kidney stones.  and she was taking so much morphine for the other pains that nobody knew if the potato water was helping with the kidney stone pains.  oh well.  that was sad, but a highly unusual case.

anyway, back to watering plants - I have gardened in pots under lights (especially herbs for culinary and medicinal purposes, tho a few peppers and tomatoes and garlic plants as well) and in flat land and in double dug raised beds.  in all 3 environments I do believe that I saw the difference when I gave my green and growing babies our gray water... in fact, sometimes the water would be so full of nitrogen that the plants would shoot up with greengrowth and I'd find the budding and fruiting periods would be late in coming or would not be as productive as they ought to have been.  and again I speak of herbs as well as vegetables. 

my fav way of using this gray water was to pour it into 35-50 gallon drums along with (depending upon the growing season's needs at the time) bone meal or fish emulsion or etc... and use this as a nutrient-feeder to my plants.  oh by the way eggshells are great to bury an inch or so beyond the roots of your plants during the season of bud formation and fruiting.  while fish heads should only be used in the ground while the seeds have just begun to srout. 

so see, there can be side effects too.

amazing isn't it?

avrohom

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RE: Has any one ev er used boiled water from cooking eg... - 3/8/2008 12:03:09 AM   
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whoops, now I need a bit of help.  can anyone tell me why there is an ice cream cone and the word vanilla up there by my post and why my photograph isn't there for all to see when I put it on my profile?  this is my first time posting to a forum on c.m. so I really am just a beginner at this stuff... and very curious about how it works!

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RE: Has any one ev er used boiled water from cooking eg... - 3/8/2008 12:03:50 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: YourhandMyAss

WEll a lot of the gardening sites, that are all about green gardening says that nutrients from the boilded food will leach into the water an be nice for the plants, but I agree either way it's water.



I don't know about eggs, but if you have a fresh water fish tank or gold fish bowl the dirty water from your water changes is a wonderful fertilizer.   Very rich in nitrates and organic nutrients.

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RE: Has any one ev er used boiled water from cooking eg... - 3/8/2008 12:47:04 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: avrohom

As an experienced organic gardener (whose egg producers were raised rather wild and free) and as a retired Naturopathic Physician I can tell you that the water from boiled foods definately contains minerals (and gasses)... most of the vitamins have been killed, all of the enzymes are dead, but the minerals are very much alive and potent.  for example, when boiling unpeeled (but well-washed) potatoes if one uses a good deal of extra water and boils them a bit longer than one might otherwise, one can then eat the potatoes and save the potato water in the fridge where it will lasts for 3 or maybe even 4 days before it goes bad.  and this water will contain enough magnesium and potassium to counteract the negative side effects of using diuretics (prescription or herbal) and most important of all WILL DISSOLVE KIDNEY AND GALLSTONES so that you can pass the stones easily with no pain!!  I have used this with many dozens of my "clients" and students with no side effects and no failures!  oh, excuse me, I do remember one elderly lady who waited far too long to come to me while she took every darn medication the allopaths could think to give her.  she died of heart failure before the potato water could completely dissolve her kidney stones.  and she was taking so much morphine for the other pains that nobody knew if the potato water was helping with the kidney stone pains.  oh well.  that was sad, but a highly unusual case.

anyway, back to watering plants - I have gardened in pots under lights (especially herbs for culinary and medicinal purposes, tho a few peppers and tomatoes and garlic plants as well) and in flat land and in double dug raised beds.  in all 3 environments I do believe that I saw the difference when I gave my green and growing babies our gray water... in fact, sometimes the water would be so full of nitrogen that the plants would shoot up with greengrowth and I'd find the budding and fruiting periods would be late in coming or would not be as productive as they ought to have been.  and again I speak of herbs as well as vegetables. 

my fav way of using this gray water was to pour it into 35-50 gallon drums along with (depending upon the growing season's needs at the time) bone meal or fish emulsion or etc... and use this as a nutrient-feeder to my plants.  oh by the way eggshells are great to bury an inch or so beyond the roots of your plants during the season of bud formation and fruiting.  while fish heads should only be used in the ground while the seeds have just begun to srout. 

so see, there can be side effects too.

amazing isn't it?

avrohom


Hey, I like this guy.

The vanilla cone.

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RE: Has any one ev er used boiled water from cooking eg... - 3/8/2008 1:01:51 AM   
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Neat.  Now I know a project to do for Chem this semester.  :P  (No, not actually.  Research projects are optional and I'm not very fond of either professor at the moment.)

But, in all seriousness, yeah, they will almost certainly contain some material from the eggs.  Is this material beneficial to the plants?  What material is it even?  Well, I'm afraid the only thing I know less about than Biology is cooking, so no idea.  :P  Still, it's plausible from a chemical point of view.


PS-  Speaking of my cooking expertise, I got better tonight!  I went to the grocery store and bought my own (already cooked) chicken.  Then I microwaved it!  It was pretty good.  :P

Stupid dining-hall-closing-for-Spring-Break.

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RE: Has any one ev er used boiled water from cooking eg... - 3/8/2008 3:45:50 AM   
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Hey hey, student cooking, CL you are learning, just remember the microwave is a very good friend, capable of all. The mess inside from splatter is hidden when you close the door, an instant tidy up.

I am experimenting with other things with my friend the microwave, things like melting and casting non ferrous metals.


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RE: Has any one ev er used boiled water from cooking eg... - 3/8/2008 5:51:58 AM   
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coffee grounds, apple cores,  egg shells get tossed in my yard.  it is better then the town mulch which has plastic in it from bags.

i would not boil water  simply to  water plants.  and dont put scalding water on it.

the neighbos would cringe at my gaqrbage dump. it does boost the fiber in the dirt.  i live for summer gardening- i spend too much money on it- and live in the garden.  my place is gawk in the summer.   i want to upgrade to 'STOP the car" stuning....

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RE: Has any one ev er used boiled water from cooking eg... - 3/8/2008 5:56:22 AM   
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coffee grounds, apple cores,  egg shells get tossed in my yard.  it is better then the town mulch which has plastic in it from bags.



we did this for awhile...right up until the time it began to attract snakes. ICK!!!!!!!

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RE: Has any one ev er used boiled water from cooking eg... - 3/8/2008 6:05:43 AM   
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never put meat grease- that attracts rats.

--coffee grounds cant hurt.  even if i clean it up for eye pleasure, it will have reduced in bulk.  it breaks down faster then o ne would think.

a cow puts out 50 pounds of poo and pee every single day.   a person puts out ??? pounds of crap each day.   we make ALOT of garbage in 1 month time.

im swithcing more of my yard to wild flowers.  one does have to have it some what  kemp - i hate to moe.

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RE: Has any one ev er used boiled water from cooking eg... - 3/8/2008 3:16:51 PM   
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Honestly it's more about not wasting so much water and if the plants like it all the better. kind of. Why waste tons of hose  water when you already have a huge* ok sometimes huge* bucket of water already at hand. Now it won't water everything we have a half acre and tons of plants, mostly flowers some are fruit tree's. but it sure would do one small bed and quickly as opposed to turning on the hose
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. Is this about enhancing the health of your houseplants or is it about what to do with water that has been used for cooking ?


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RE: Has any one ev er used boiled water from cooking eg... - 3/8/2008 6:09:54 PM   
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I heard somewhere that the water would have a little bit of nutriants from what was boiled and would be good for your plants. We usualy just dump the water out there by wasting water that could be used on our plants.

Has any one ever had any negative effects on the plants? Other than just not wasting water by using double the a mount, does it actually do anything for the plants?


I'm a single guy....I'm still working on boiling water.

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