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xBullx -> RE: "Bush: US vote won't shape Iraq withdrawal" (3/11/2008 2:42:31 PM)
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Both of my boys are in the service Kitten and they are proud to be, as am I, of them.
I wasn't playing that as a sympathy card or any other kind of card, we're a Warrior family and that's what we do.
I was only stating that I have an inside source as to activities as I'm sure some others do. There's a fairly long road to hoe over there and I hope that what I think is Bush's real goal was comes to be.
It is my contention that right or wrong in the beginning, we're there and have started something, we did destabilize a region of the world and by God we can't walk away from that. We have tons of problems here at home, daily I use the highways and infrastructure that is in disrepair; our own police forces are corrupt or under supported, the economy is in shambles but the stuff here we can all do more to help with. Over there we are leaving the mission up to our Warriors and I am way beyond proud of the job their doing.
How many Military Forces in the history of the world do you think are held as justly and humanely accountable as ours has been. I'll bet you have heard of some less than glorious details from the French or British history. We, in fact the whole world scrutinizes the every move of our kids, if they murder, steal or are less than honorable they don't get a free pass just because of a war. They must pay for their transgretion. They are fighting an enemy that plays by absolutely no rules and yet they are kicking his ass. Believe it or not their actions and their efforts are actually helping to rebuild American credibility, once the worlds politicians are through with their political marketing agenda and folks can see beyond the he said she said noise. American kids never bitch overtly about any mission our nation sends them on, humanitarian, peace keeping and more serious campaigns they just go and make us proud every time. Sure some step on their wand and have to face the music, but they do and we as a country face it openly and with them. Some come home and see some attention and trash talk their brothers in arms, but dig into the past of those boys and I'll bet you find a more detailed reason they're home early.
The thing is that oh so often we all get so tied up in the political thing so much we forget the human factor of our sons and daughters, those devoted souls that send that tear of pride down my cheek right the hell now.
So now we're there and it's a matter of, not staying the course as Bush so fuckin' frequently said, but remaining men (gender neutral) of our word, remaining men that don't make a mess and then leave it for others to pillage. We left Poland alone when we told them we'd help after WWII. We've done that to other people and then watched as they were slaughtered buy military machines that they stood no chance with. We did it to the Afghan people after the Russian pullout, left them to starve. They had served their purpose right? There's more to being a man than shouting political nonsense. Let's start with this mess, let's leave the political agenda’s to the Sinergy’s of the world, that’s all they know. Let’s find a way to work with those brave kids of ours to make sure this starts a process that creates understanding with a friend in the Middle East a friend that can attest to the fact that America is not here to establish colonies or impose their well. But to share the opportunity that was once provided to us.
I’m going to throw this in for the food for thought club. I’m an old Warrior too,. I have been to the parts of the world that don’t understand why we are the way we are in the west. They don’t like us very much, and frankly it is actually the liberal way that we live that not only annoys them, but is scares them. They aren’t afraid we’ll force them to be as we are; they know that our open minded views will destroy what they are comfortable with. Their world will no longer be the same and frankly we all fight change. That’s nothing new.
Yeah, I think most of us believe Bush and Blair lead us astray, I think there are a great many that when faced with the facts would think FDR and Churchill did the same. I wonder what history will reveal, and not about these four men, but about the nations they lead. We brought a better world out of WWII, it still had problems, but it was a better place. Will we sit and whine about the world this time or build something good where nothing seemed possible. Good men build, bad men………………..
Remember:
Absolutely no ones hates the idea of war more than the men that fight it.
Let’s get it right even if Lil Bush couldn’t.
Chess anyone?
Bull
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