Tavane
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I was referred in another thread to FEMClub, and from there I saw a Yahoo group for FEMClub Ohio, and just submitted a request to join. From looking at the Femclub site, it appears the Houston (founding) group has social functions, and I wondered if there were any bars, night clubs, clubs, or other places where people in this lifestyle could go at almost any time, or at scheduled times, to meet people and have fun. When I was active in the TG scene, I'd go up to Detroit, and some gay bars catered to that, but I've never known of any such places with respect to this kind of lifestyle. It would be wonderful to go in a bar, and know that many of the women were dominant, and to treat them as such, and to get to know them as people, without worrying about what kind of relationship you'll have, since it's a given that you will be her slave, if you find each other attractive, whether for a brief encounter or a long term relationship. I live in NW Ohio, and would willingly travel a couple of hours to visit such a place, or to join a club and attend meetings. I did that with two crossdressing clubs, when I first explored that lifstyle, in the early 80's.
That would seem to be the ideal situation, since simply being in such a place is experiencing submission, and it would be just like any bar, except for the fact that everyone was dominant or submissive as the primary reason they were there. The "rules" on the Houston site discuss how males must serve the females at functions, address them as Mistress, or whatever other term she prefers, and wear collars or dresses or some other types of visual display of submission. I found it very appealing. A person on a list I am on lives in I believe Portland, and there is apparently some club or something, where they have a dungeon, and you can do that, or be a service submissive (which is apparently what I am), or whatever you wish. I have no idea how prevalent this kind of lifestyle is, but this site certainly seems pretty large, and I would think that people who are interested in it might form clubs or something. Presumably submissive males far outnumber dominant females, but I really am speculating on that. It would be so wonderful to attend a function where I had to serve any woman who required a drink or snack,, and address her as mistress, and to naturally learn a subordinate, submissive way of talking to women, and relating to them; and to get to know them as people, so you are not concerned with anonymity, or privacy, or wondering if either party will show up for a meeting you've arranged in e-mail, or whatever. They would be the mistresses, and I would be one of the slaves, and everyone would want and enjoy that, and have fun in that lifestyle. There are gay bars, and lesbian bars, and I sure wish there were mistress/slave master/slave bars.
I enjoy the idea of being submissive to women so much that I'd really love such a place, but perhaps such people are not numerous enough to support such places commercially, even in very large cities, since I've never heard of any. Does anyone know of any such places? I'd travel almost anywhere to visit such a place. It would be so much fun to meet women, and try to attract them with my personality, knowledge, behaviors, etc, and to be deferential to them, and to not even worry about who is dominant or submissive, since that's a given. You never know if you might meet Ms. Right, or a woman who is looking to hire a secretary, or would love to have a maid, or otherwise might be interested in you. I wish such support groups (and the net) had existed when I was young. Although I'm an attorney, frankly I'd much prefer to be a secretary to a female attorney. My submission extends to all women, and I'd love to have a job where I was subordinate to all of the women in an office, or at least that all my supervisors were women. I never had the "courage" to explore submission, personally or as a matter of employment, when I was younger, and wish I had; but I thought I was alone on the planet. I was a soldier in Vietnam, and knew many brave men, and was one of them, but I'm not sure many of them would have the courage to be a woman's slave, or to seek a job where they would be subordinate to women all of the time. I almost had such a job. When I was in the Army, I lucked out and was sent to a clerk school, and was the distinguished graduate, and was drafted after I graduated from college, and they wanted me to become an officer, but that would have meant another year and a half in the Army, so I turned them down. We got orders for Vietnam, but then I was called into interview with this female Captain. I had never seen a female officer before I got to that school, and in those sexist days, it was a bit disconcerting to have to be so deferential to a woman, and say "yes ma'am" and "no ma'am". I had no idea whey she was talking to me. She never said.
Then the next day the school commander told me I wouldn't be going to Vietnam, since the Captain had liked me, and had put in to have my orders changed, so I'd stay there and be her secretary for the rest of my time in the Army. I was horrified at this. It was an incredible blow to my male ego, knowing that I would pretty much be a woman's slave 24/7 for the next year and a half. She didn't even ask me if I wanted that. She never told me why she was talking to me. I don't remember having submissive pleasure from the idea. I was so attuned to violence and preparing for war that submissive desires never emerged, to my recollection. Our whole class was ordered to Vietnam though, and she couldnt get my orders changed, and I remember being a bit relieved, though I had no idea what kind of living nightmare my life would be like for the next year, in war. I've often wondered about that. I'll bet I'd have absolutely loved being her secretary/slave, and always having to "yes ma'am/no'ma'am" type of stuff the military always requires.
I'm transgendered, and love feminine stuff anyway, and wish I had had the courage to take up a "female" occupation, when I was young, and one where I would work for woman, and with women. It just wasn't an option back then, and there was no support for such desires as I had/have. I'd certainly recommend that young guys have the courage to "submit" to their desires, whether that is in a relationship or in an occupation. Time is all that it costs you, and you will always learn, whatever happens.
If anyone knows of places, clubs, or organizations, I'd really enjoy knowing about them. Thanks.
Tavane.
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