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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 9:08:02 AM   
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thank goodness my kitty is meant to breed and won't get fixed in the near future...however if she makes as much a fuss about delivery as her mum did then she will be due right after her first litter

my ginger boy tried to climb up the bare walls at the vet I was told when I picked him and his torty sister up from their fixing appointment...he is as hot and spicy as his name curry entails...the only one of my cat who dares to hiss at me sometimes when his temperament flares up...(and he didn't dare to do so at Mr. A when he visited us *sulk* ).



I guess I just don't understand the whole concept of breeding cats and purebred cats really. There are so many homeless animals out there that need homes that aren't any different than those purebreds and are just as pretty. It's a pet.. Do you show cats like you show dogs. I guess I can understand purebred dogs a little more (even though I don't agree) they do agility, shows etc....

I apologize <end rant>


Potty that's hilarious!!!!!!!



Basically the concept is a way to keep that specific breed of dog or cat from disappearing. Yea you're right there are way too many homeless dogs and cats yet blame the stupidity of neglectful owners....they are the ones who are damn well irresponsible and too bloody lazy to get their pet spayed or neutered and allow that animal to run wild. It's a huge responsibility to care for a pet humanely and far too many idiots are irresponsible and I still maintain that anyone who wants to be a pet owner take mandatory classes to be a responsible pet owner.

~end rant without apology~




I agree bear.


I've got four purebreds that were bought abandoned and beat living in my house right now.

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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 9:09:06 AM   
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an explanation is now a temper tantrum from someone who felt the need to rant where was no need to rant in the first place...laugh my ass off


You know what your right I NEVER should have apologized for advocating for pets against IRRESPONSIBLE pet owners.

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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 9:13:36 AM   
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yanno...passions run deep on this topic.

How about letting the tempers temper, and just agree to disagree?

The bottom line is no matter what side of the fence you are on, we loves our fur babies.


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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 9:25:52 AM   
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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 9:27:09 AM   
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yanno...passions run deep on this topic.

How about letting the tempers temper, and just agree to disagree?

The bottom line is no matter what side of the fence you are on, we loves our fur babies.




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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 9:28:18 AM   
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purrfectly said, Holly....

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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 9:28:28 AM   
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thank goodness my kitty is meant to breed and won't get fixed in the near future...however if she makes as much a fuss about delivery as her mum did then she will be due right after her first litter

my ginger boy tried to climb up the bare walls at the vet I was told when I picked him and his torty sister up from their fixing appointment...he is as hot and spicy as his name curry entails...the only one of my cat who dares to hiss at me sometimes when his temperament flares up...(and he didn't dare to do so at Mr. A when he visited us *sulk* ).



I guess I just don't understand the whole concept of breeding cats and purebred cats really. There are so many homeless animals out there that need homes that aren't any different than those purebreds and are just as pretty. It's a pet.. Do you show cats like you show dogs. I guess I can understand purebred dogs a little more (even though I don't agree) they do agility, shows etc....

I apologize <end rant>






Silly old me how dare I to forget that you shouldn't have your own view about things on this board

She had just as much right as you did to post her views.

Did I mention anywhere that pedigree cats are better then non-pedigree ones?
Did I mention anywhere that non-pedigree cats are not nice ones???

Her post didn't suggest that you did.


My-o-My-o-My...nice to see how "non-judgemental" certain folks  here are for a simple comment made...




Personally, I don't see it that way.

I saw it as you taking offense.

You reacted as though she attacked you, and really she didn't.
She disagreed with the concept of having a purebred from a breeder as a pet.
That is all.

You chose to make it into something more.

As I recall, nobody cursed you when you talked about adopting her.
We were all happy for your joy.

If something happened to one of your fur babies we would cry with you regardless of where they came from.


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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 9:34:33 AM   
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thank goodness my kitty is meant to breed and won't get fixed in the near future...however if she makes as much a fuss about delivery as her mum did then she will be due right after her first litter

my ginger boy tried to climb up the bare walls at the vet I was told when I picked him and his torty sister up from their fixing appointment...he is as hot and spicy as his name curry entails...the only one of my cat who dares to hiss at me sometimes when his temperament flares up...(and he didn't dare to do so at Mr. A when he visited us *sulk* ).



I guess I just don't understand the whole concept of breeding cats and purebred cats really. There are so many homeless animals out there that need homes that aren't any different than those purebreds and are just as pretty. It's a pet.. Do you show cats like you show dogs. I guess I can understand purebred dogs a little more (even though I don't agree) they do agility, shows etc....

I apologize <end rant>


Potty that's hilarious!!!!!!!



Basically the concept is a way to keep that specific breed of dog or cat from disappearing. Yea you're right there are way too many homeless dogs and cats yet blame the stupidity of neglectful owners....they are the ones who are damn well irresponsible and too bloody lazy to get their pet spayed or neutered and allow that animal to run wild. It's a huge responsibility to care for a pet humanely and far too many idiots are irresponsible and I still maintain that anyone who wants to be a pet owner take mandatory classes to be a responsible pet owner.

~end rant without apology~




I agree bear.


I've got four purebreds that were bought abandoned and beat living in my house right now.


just because you have four purebreds which havent had a responsible owner makes now other people who have a pedigree cat for a change bad...I see.. it also makes the people bad who want to continue their particular fur markings...right...

according to that theory I should condemn non-pedigree cat owners then, because since 2 years I am feeding a non-pedigree cat on a daily basis who does not seem to be owned (she comes inside, near my patio door and rushes outside ones you are too close to her and is simply happier living in the garage from my landlord)...so non-pedigree-cat-owners must be really bad...shame only that I can't apply your theory with having 3 non-pedigree cats myself

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an explanation is now a temper tantrum from someone who felt the need to rant where was no need to rant in the first place...laugh my ass off



You know what your right I NEVER should have apologized for advocating for pets against IRRESPONSIBLE pet owners.



When I hear "don't take such a cat because there are so many in the animal shelter"...well, then maybe we should also stop having children and just adopt the ones in children homes...no need to have own ones...and don't buy new cars...there are so many second hand ones which are good enough to be used for longer, no need to buy a new ones...laugh out loud

and regarding a previous question, some people, like the one I have mine from, do show their cats in the shows, but that quite frankly is not my cup of tea, apart from that mine would lack of that anyway as she has too much white on her back paws...nevertheless she was on the active register when I bought her and it is nothing wrong with it to let her have the one or other litter (it might just be one, it might be more then one, time will tell and there is nothing decided).

And I do agree..I am also against advocating pets to irresponsible owners...however, I don't consider myself as being one as after all I bought her that my girl has more company and it is obvious that she is significantly happier and they get on very well, apart from that I get countless emails from guys who think I don't know what it will cost to take my furrys with me once I move...well I do, as I DO take on my cats for life!!! just because you have an issue with it, that does not make it to my issue.

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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 9:37:18 AM   
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No need to get snarky,Phoenix. Both Imp and I rescue animals who are neglected, starved, beaten etc. We see too many adoptable animals be put down because there's no more room so when people adopt from breeders (or breeders surface) we get upset/sad for those that are being put down all in the name of "pure breed's".
I have a Russian Blue that was abandoned along w/his sister so there are "pure breed's" out there to be adopted, people just don't check the pounds because they think it's just mutts. But mutts are great too. Most of the time they're better, but if people would just "Google" the breed they're interested in, chances are they have a rescue group for that specific breed.


And some of us have both.

Yes there are lots of different dogs available to adopt but the different breeds have different temperments. Jack Russell Terriers are a one person dog, if you are single, they can be a great choice. But they are not going to adapt well if brought into a family home.

I prefer Golden Retrievers and Labrador Retrievers. They are laid back in temperment, tolerant to a fault with kids. And make great therapy dogs.

My current Golden is a senior from a shelter, he's about 75% Golden and has the typical temperment. Good in cars, fine when I show up at school to pick up my son and half a dozen other kids come over to pet him.

Horse breeds are also entirely different in temperments. I've known exactly one Arabian who was calm, good with little kids, and didn't fight with other horses. Most Arabians are totally opposite. Thoroughbreds are usually high strung. I chose a registered Quarter Horse for my daughter because they are calm in stressful circumstances, and if the rider messes up they don't hold grudges. You can shoot a rifle off a quarterhorse's back, and they'll be fine. You can't train a thoroughbred or an Arabian for that.

Plus for what she does, the breed characteristics, as well as the exact blood line make a huge difference. There are quarterhorses from specific lines that have never seen a cow till they were ten yet instinctively knew how to herd them, and cut one out of a herd when asked to.

Dogs and horses were bred as working animals, not companion animals. If you do want them to work, say as ratters at a barn, then you need a good rat terrier. You want one to protect your sheep, you don't get a retriever, you get a shepherd or a border collie.

When we breed show dogs or horses, and work and show them, we are keeping the breed characteristics alive.

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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 9:41:21 AM   
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yanno...passions run deep on this topic.

How about letting the tempers temper, and just agree to disagree?

The bottom line is no matter what side of the fence you are on, we loves our fur babies.







I agree....

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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 9:54:23 AM   
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No need to get snarky,Phoenix. Both Imp and I rescue animals who are neglected, starved, beaten etc. We see too many adoptable animals be put down because there's no more room so when people adopt from breeders (or breeders surface) we get upset/sad for those that are being put down all in the name of "pure breed's".
I have a Russian Blue that was abandoned along w/his sister so there are "pure breed's" out there to be adopted, people just don't check the pounds because they think it's just mutts. But mutts are great too. Most of the time they're better, but if people would just "Google" the breed they're interested in, chances are they have a rescue group for that specific breed.


And some of us have both.

Yes there are lots of different dogs available to adopt but the different breeds have different temperments. Jack Russell Terriers are a one person dog, if you are single, they can be a great choice. But they are not going to adapt well if brought into a family home.

I prefer Golden Retrievers and Labrador Retrievers. They are laid back in temperment, tolerant to a fault with kids. And make great therapy dogs.

My current Golden is a senior from a shelter, he's about 75% Golden and has the typical temperment. Good in cars, fine when I show up at school to pick up my son and half a dozen other kids come over to pet him.

Horse breeds are also entirely different in temperments. I've known exactly one Arabian who was calm, good with little kids, and didn't fight with other horses. Most Arabians are totally opposite. Thoroughbreds are usually high strung. I chose a registered Quarter Horse for my daughter because they are calm in stressful circumstances, and if the rider messes up they don't hold grudges. You can shoot a rifle off a quarterhorse's back, and they'll be fine. You can't train a thoroughbred or an Arabian for that.

Plus for what she does, the breed characteristics, as well as the exact blood line make a huge difference. There are quarterhorses from specific lines that have never seen a cow till they were ten yet instinctively knew how to herd them, and cut one out of a herd when asked to.

Dogs and horses were bred as working animals, not companion animals. If you do want them to work, say as ratters at a barn, then you need a good rat terrier. You want one to protect your sheep, you don't get a retriever, you get a shepherd or a border collie.

When we breed show dogs or horses, and work and show them, we are keeping the breed characteristics alive.


Indeed DesFIP...some of us HAVE BOTH!!!

and regarding VP, spicy was homeless himself when I took him on and as I mentioned in the past I am feeding Herbie who prefers to live in the garage but comes for food on a daily basis (not just to me).

just because I go the way to breed her and don't get her fixed does not make it to a bad concept.

And in regards to "people just don't check the pounds because they think it's just mutts. But mutts are great too" in that respect I even mentioned some months ago a petition which is going on in the UK at the moment where people try to stop animal shelters from selling kitten in the first place, because that - in my opinion - is much more the problem then the pedigree cats.

In Germany (at least in my area I don't put my hand into the fire that it is by law, though) you can't buy a kitten or a dog in the animal shop. If you want a kitten or a puppy, you have to go either via the animal shelter, or the breeders or the newspaper where people give them away for free as they know it is difficult to find new owners and they are glad enough when they find someone who takes them.

Basically people tend to be more responsible to spay them as they know they don't have an outlet to sell them in the first place. Over here you see them in tiny cages in all the pet shops, often coming from horrid breeding farms in ireland and I don't want to see what happens with the ones who don't get sold. I do hope the government reacts and signed up for it but I doubt

Nevertheless is nothing wrong with the breeding lines too, though I do condemn the ones where it actually affect the animals health as it is with persian cats due to their nose.

And as DesFIP says correctly they have different temperaments. To get a 4th cat in my current small place was a bit risky to do in the first place even when my boys are outside a lot, however it HAD to be one who isn't keen to be outside much as otherwise is no point to take a 4th cat as company for the female cat in the first place as she would be inside on her own a lot again once the 4th cat is grown up. And birman cats simply are quite a lazy breed and don't run outside a lot and certainly not when there is no sight of a sun at all...

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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 10:07:33 AM   
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I am majorly allergic to cats. When my stepdaughter was here with us last year, she wanted to bring her cat. We agreed to a trial. This was a Himalayan and I had no reaction at all to her for a year. I visit my father who has a mixed from a shelter and I'm coughing and choking after three hours, and his apartment is cleaned daily.

If the low allergens are typical of Himalayans, then if I wanted one, that would be the only kind I could ever have. So for me, a shelter cat is not an option since they can't guarantee what breed it is.

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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 10:15:47 AM   
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There was recently an announcement on TV where they even breed a cat now which is no problems to allergicans...though people have to pay £2000/$4000 dollar for it *lol* (and nope...they are not fur less...they do have fur....just don't shed the stuff which is causing the problem for people who are allergic to it)

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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 10:32:06 AM   
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thank goodness my kitty is meant to breed and won't get fixed in the near future...however if she makes as much a fuss about delivery as her mum did then she will be due right after her first litter

my ginger boy tried to climb up the bare walls at the vet I was told when I picked him and his torty sister up from their fixing appointment...he is as hot and spicy as his name curry entails...the only one of my cat who dares to hiss at me sometimes when his temperament flares up...(and he didn't dare to do so at Mr. A when he visited us *sulk* ).



I guess I just don't understand the whole concept of breeding cats and purebred cats really. There are so many homeless animals out there that need homes that aren't any different than those purebreds and are just as pretty. It's a pet.. Do you show cats like you show dogs. I guess I can understand purebred dogs a little more (even though I don't agree) they do agility, shows etc....

I apologize <end rant>


Potty that's hilarious!!!!!!!



Silly old me how dare I to forget that you shouldn't have your own view about things on this board

Did I mention anywhere that pedigree cats are better then non-pedigree ones?
Did I mention anywhere that non-pedigree cats are not nice ones???

particular as I had all my life non-pedigree cats and cats from animal shelters and only went for this pedgree one as I needed one who is less keen to go outside due to my furry girl as a matter of fact being scared outside and therefore is too much on here own??? And a kitten is simply easier to socialise with an established cat-gang then a grown up one...So if you like it or not in that respect would a "normal" cat be from not much use at all as a "normal" cat would be likely to go outside just as much as my two boys are...once it would be grown up enough...and therefore pedigree cats can have benefits...and just because there are many cats in the animal shelter does not mean that I have to get her fixed...as after all it is up to each individual to look after their own cats and I know that in case I would not find new homes for her future litter I would keep them...

My-o-My-o-My...nice to see how "non-judgemental" certain folks  here are for a simple comment made...





I have no idea why you are taking this as a personal attack. No, to answer your question never once in there did I say you were a bad person, never once did I state any of those things pertaining to your questions, I simply stated I don't understand the concept. But you take it however you want mmK and go ahead and throw your temper tantrum.





And because I can't help myself after reading your post.. IN MY PERSONAL OPINION...


Those that acquire pets for money and breed them for money and prestige are not doing to because they are pet lovers. They are doing it for gain and are only perpetuating the homeless pet problem, by selling a pet to someone who has enough money to buy them. NOt taking the time to screen that person to see if A> they are a good pet owner, B. Whether or not they are using those animals for harm and C. What happens if they can't take care of that animal or that animal does not behave how they want it to behave!!!!!!



Once again, jumping to conclusion...breeders selling their cats does not mean they are not pet lovers...actually I have a few people in line who would be able to take kitten from the first litter already who would pay next to nothing, or certainly not more then what the normal cat in the pet shop cost...if you would have seen how my birman is grown up you would understand that you can still like the cats even when you do sell them...at the end of the day, you can't keep all them by yourself and you do have some bills to pay as registration and basic injections aren't free of charge for a breeder either; and regarding paying so much money to do the pet harm...well, there would be plenty cheaper options for those people to get cats, they would not pay what I paid for her. But that's fine keep condemning those bad breeders who are only looking for money, when that is your view...may we find all our bliss

And regarding "what happens when they can't take care of them", I signed for it that I would bring her back to the breeder if something would happen that I can't look after her, of course now I can be blamed that I might not do that...well, but at least the option is there from the breeder to try to prevent that her kittens end up in a bad future...not every cat owner is a bad person, for fucking sake


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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 10:34:41 AM   
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I hate it when people can't agree to disagree.

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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 10:50:06 AM   
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I don't breed dogs. And yes there are  a great many irresponsible puppy mills out there. However there are also people who are responsible breeders. They show a registered dog and get it it's grand champion and they will have a line of people asking them for a pup. If you know ahead of even breeding them that there are people waiting to adopt, then obviously the question of that litter being abandoned or going to a shelter isn't going to happen.

There are bad people in every walk of life. There are substandard dentists, but I'm not going to go without dental care forever because some dentists are bad.
There are bad teachers, but I'm not advocating we close down all the schools as result.

Close down the mills, sure.
Prohibit a responsible breed owner from breeding their dog, no.

My mother in law has had show dogs for over 30 years. She usually got rare breeds and in these breeds with very few people breeding them, she had to guarantee to breed the dog once so the breed wouldn't die out. You aren't going to find a purebred Irish Wolfhound in a shelter. Or a Leonburger(sp). Local shelters around here rarely have a golden retriever. I looked off and on for nearly two years before I got mine.

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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 11:02:36 AM   
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lucsious and I must say the ones that know me and know my mental illness and just how abused I was as a kid so it left me emotionally stunted forgive a lot from me and told me maybe if I let people know, hey look I'm a kid inside an I just get so happy I cant help but want to share my happiness with you or I will burst, people will be more forgiving, and yeah you guys even rip the people who're mean to me publically a new ass hole sometimes for them jumping on me when I am reach out for help an they don't take me seriously.


The part of the problem is you can open yourself up to much and leave yourself free to be sucker p unched in the heart, and then you're weary, but you have no on else to talk to, so you have to spew it here, and then you get help but some people still sucker punch you in the heart, but the ones that don't become valued friends.


Daddy used to tell me all the time to learn to keep shut about certain things that paint us in a bad light, or that tell only have a sotry an then people are like oh god the idiots at it again, but this forrum was the only place I had to tell people private painful stuff and know despite the idiots I was safe because people here can't lock me up, so when I over shared an stuff it was usually because I had no one else to talk to and left myself wide open to the bullies by being vunerable. Then daddy didn't understand why I kept opening myself up to the bullies and was sympathetic but mad I posted about personal stuff so openly an then said I may as well of pinned a bit come bully me thread, because I sounded like an idiot because I didn't say things right then had to back peddle an that's why people thought I was blowing smoke up t heir ass and an attention whore, so stop doing what you're doing.


He understands now and I told him sometimes I'm just gonna have to open the door and if the bullies come sucker punch me don't lecture me just hold me an let me cry my heart out like you would your 10 year old child who just came home from the playground in tears would do and then I'll be ok.



And I've already had comeplte strangers reach out and tell me i can call at all hours of the night if I needed, and I didn't say ok and have no intention of doing so , I actually did. So THEY know I am not shining on their help and being like hahaha! I got you to help me because I am a posting whore who enjoys crying for help and tricking people into helping me.


Those of you who see me for me an the pain inside are almost always more sensitive than the brutes.


"Leaning my head against your head and having a quiet moment of I understand you and you know I do.
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TFB,
I alienated a whole group I loved showing up at a weekend with depression and PMS from hell. I did not make it through with all the friendships in tact. I am better now due to medication. We have compassion for you. Others may not. Appreciate the supporters and just try to be the best you can be and we will forgive your flaws. Thats what real friends do. The others, dont put to much weight on their opinion. We all have people who love us and all have those who dont love us. Dont focus on the ones who'll beat you down. Focus on the love, dear.



Now all ya have to do is not take it so personally. Stop caring so much what others think. Be you and focus on your friends and supporters. ignore the ones that are mean. Their perceptions are based on their life, not yours. Everyone has issues.

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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 11:19:16 AM   
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i'm nearing the postal stage here folks!!!!!

i'm day 6 out of work (not counting weekends)...A fever yet again today.. 101.6 now.. Woke up this morning looking pretty good 95.5.

Which means returning to work at the earliest as of Wednesday...........

i may go insane... And to top it off... i am almost done with my tamiflu, my 2nd round of zpak, i went to the ER Friday night got an injection, have been doing breathing treatments, doing every freaking thing they've suggested.....

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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 11:30:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Kalista07

i'm nearing the postal stage here folks!!!!!

i'm day 6 out of work (not counting weekends)...A fever yet again today.. 101.6 now.. Woke up this morning looking pretty good 95.5.

Which means returning to work at the earliest as of Wednesday...........

i may go insane... And to top it off... i am almost done with my tamiflu, my 2nd round of zpak, i went to the ER Friday night got an injection, have been doing breathing treatments, doing every freaking thing they've suggested.....


Oh honey, Id hug ya if I wasnt afraid of getting sick.... oh thats right. Virtual hug Fest!!!!
(((((( hug)))))

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RE: I hate it when........ - 11/2/2009 11:49:20 AM   
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*hugs kali*

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