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RE: I hate it when........ - 1/11/2009 5:22:23 AM   
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good morning/evening to you favourite sun enhanced man! *smooch*

although, hoping you haven't got a sunburn! that would be a downer *snickergiggle*

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RE: I hate it when........ - 1/11/2009 5:59:26 AM   
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Hugs Angel - you're very frisky this day! Drugs or alcohol? (Or inner purity?)

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RE: I hate it when........ - 1/11/2009 6:01:16 AM   
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eenie meenie.....

inner purity, yeah, that's it!!




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RE: I hate it when........ - 1/11/2009 6:04:48 AM   
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ahhh...AngelEyes is trying something new 

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RE: I hate it when........ - 1/11/2009 8:34:12 AM   
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First of all...HUGS DHR.. Hell add 6 more for emphasis.

Sit down and talk with the Things. Honestly. Talk to them about what their dad is wanting to do, and what he is "offering" and then take them on a tour of the reality of his home area. Not just the good, but the bad, the reality of life for 98% of the people there. They should not be blinded by the rainbows and unicorns, private schools and privilege but the reality of not being able to see you or grandpa, their friends and extended families that they have chosen. They may not have much but they are loved and they know it and they also know it would break your heart if they were to leave.

Second.. Aynne A couple of Hugs to you as well as a big stick. Things are not likely to get back on financial track in the construction industry for a while. Do not put your dreams and desires on hold, we lose so very much when we do that. My advice would be to sit down work out a buyout agreement through your lawyers..file it and step into a new life for you instead of remaining unhappy and under financial thrall. The buyout can be effective a year, 2 years or whatever from now, and overseen on the monthly basis by a lawyer or accountant with power of attorney for your interest in the business or someone you trust. Until you take the steps to distance yourself even though you are divorced, you are still married to him and he is going to continue to jerk you around emotionally because he knows every one of your buttons.  He has you to take every frustration out on and to blame for every setback, why should he bother? As for your feeling like his Mom, and being scared entangled and frustrated..He isn't going to man up until you actually are gone and you won't step away from the habit of rescuing him and everything else until you have walked away. It's the hardest thing to do, but sometimes we have to just cut our losses and move on.

Third... While I love that my Prof's have laid out the classes and homework so I can get a head start on it...I hate that I can already see I am going to be playing catch up on the boards....ARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH

Forth..Linea good luck with Miles..he will forgive you and cuddle very soon. Try using a boiled tea bag on the claw marks, the heat will help shrink the swelling, the tannin will help in the healing and lower the risk of infection. Black tea is great for drawing and drying out wounds.


poenkitten sending Hugs to all who need them...

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RE: I hate it when........ - 1/11/2009 8:42:13 AM   
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Sundowner thank you so much, I needed to hear that, you are a sweetie. I wasn't trying to have a pity party I just needed to vent, I felt like my chest was so tight I couldnt breathe,,,,anyway, thank you so much 



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....if anyone has please send me some strong energy! 

Night all, sweet dreams!




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RE: I hate it when........ - 1/11/2009 9:00:04 AM   
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sorry i didn't reply back yesterday - having a long meeting with the principal and teacher about my teen about what happened in class Thursday.

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i hate it that my daughter's teen years is marred with racial and sexual hatred from others ...that she resorted to cutting herself again to ease the frustration and anger she felt

oh no. that poor baby. Is she still in therapy Samba?


she's still in therapy and group counseling ...we're merely counting down the days until i can transfer her out of that school.


Gwyn - she does have an outlet -writing song lyrics or journaling her feelings however her school day was so terrible she nearly ran away. she wrote me a letter why she did and what happened in one particular class - the mean things said (from n-word hater to emo fag hag)was enough for her to cut up and down/front and back on her left arm. i'll check out the links you posted.

thanks for the *hugs* and advice.


It is horrible what kids to to other kids. Most of the time it is just to see an reaction. The ones that react the most are of course the ones they really drill and pick on. Our um is a big hysterical reactor so they zone in on him.

I wish there was a way I could teach all of the picked on one to let it roll off of their back and not to react.. also a way of beating the ever loving shit out of the ones who bully.

We had in one of the ums schools an anit bullying pact. All the kids had to sign it, and they formed "tribal councils" of thier peers. If a bully was caught being nasty they would have to go before the council, and deal with being talked to, and make approriations to the abused. I think a lot less bullying would occur if more schools followed this. They felt impowered against the bullies. He was not bullied there hardly at all. It happened once in the begining of the year, and the bully was taken down a few pegs. Being a bully there was not cool. They were the shunned ones.

See if there is a good councilor in her school. Make sure she has a free pass to go talk to the councilor when ever she feels the need to. We did this with our um this year. His issues are not as severe, but it has been gradually getting worse. Having that safe person and place to turn to in the middle of a situation like that is a god send. He has the ability to just get up and go. I think that would be helpfull for her too. I formed a bond with the councilor.. and we both work on him from our angles.

It is good she has outlets. Those are helpful. She needs one at school and a way to remove herself from the situation. Talk to the councilors and teachers about giving her an excape route to see the councilor, or trusted adult at school when ever she needs it.

Let me know if I can help in any way hun.. my in box and phone is always open.

*more gentle hugs*

Gwyn


I talked to my daughter before xmas and she actually gave me a little time and caught me up on things.

I was shocked and dismany that even living in a small town  outside of dallas they had to take my Boyfaerie out of school because of a very bad issue with a 3rd grade gang....WTF apparently they had made him a fall guy because he can be maniliputed into anything and got suspended because  they told him to tease another with negative gay comments. He was coming home doing gang signs and was just generally picking up their attitude. They have bee stickly raised with a person has every right to be what they are. My daughter is Bi so slamming someone about being guy was a big deal.

She had to totally pull him out of school to get him out of the situation, even the teacher said it was a very bad problem She is now home schooling him on an accredited program and intends to put both (girlfaerie is in the 1st grade and there has been now problem) into a private school.

I mean gawd 3rd gang problems in a rural school.  Just makes me want to cry.

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RE: I hate it when........ - 1/11/2009 9:06:01 AM   
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Poenkitten I wish you were closer! Thank you so much. Without getting into a long one again today, he is not a bad man, that makes it harder. He can be horribly verbally abusive but it is because he works 80 hours a week and he wants me to "fix" everything. This is the truth, I want nothing at all from the business, absolutely nothing, I just want my freedom and I want to go and know he isn't going to fall apart, but the adult me knows he will make it, the emotional me cries thinking about it. NOt to mention that my parents love him and they think we are divorced (we are) but trying to reconcile that is why we live in the same house. That is so not it, he is just one of those people that has a horrible time making friends because he is so bitter all the time and I know that I am the only one that he has to turn to, I really am not being a martyr, it has always been that way. But goddamnit, how long do I put my life on hold? You know what I think? That I just bite the bullet, have Sir come get me and leave, and in a few months the ex will be fine.This has undoubtedly been the worst year of my life, emotionally and financially, and I am just drained, I feel like an empty shell of my former self and god DAMN it that is not me.  I don't even have an excuse about my situation, Master has said a million times babygirl just pack your clothes and nothing else come home and let's start our life.  But when I get like this I hide from the world and I just want to curl up and die. At 40 years old I dont want to have to answer to my very square parents why I am leaving and I don't want to sneak out like a theif in the night either, it seems so shady, but I definietly don't see me getting anyone's blessing. I guess what I am asking is is it ok to follow your bliss if it means leaving someone you once loved wrecked? I lied, I am rambling again, I love all of you for listening to me, I really do, you have no idea how much it means to just be listened
to, of course Sir does but he obviously is far to entrenched in it to be objective. ANyway, huge hugs Poen, I love your words of wisdom

Holly you too, thank you friend. 
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ORIGINAL: BlackPhx

First of all...HUGS DHR.. Hell add 6 more for emphasis.

Sit down and talk with the Things. Honestly. Talk to them about what their dad is wanting to do, and what he is "offering" and then take them on a tour of the reality of his home area. Not just the good, but the bad, the reality of life for 98% of the people there. They should not be blinded by the rainbows and unicorns, private schools and privilege but the reality of not being able to see you or grandpa, their friends and extended families that they have chosen. They may not have much but they are loved and they know it and they also know it would break your heart if they were to leave.

Second.. Aynne A couple of Hugs to you as well as a big stick. Things are not likely to get back on financial track in the construction industry for a while. Do not put your dreams and desires on hold, we lose so very much when we do that. My advice would be to sit down work out a buyout agreement through your lawyers..file it and step into a new life for you instead of remaining unhappy and under financial thrall. The buyout can be effective a year, 2 years or whatever from now, and overseen on the monthly basis by a lawyer or accountant with power of attorney for your interest in the business or someone you trust. Until you take the steps to distance yourself even though you are divorced, you are still married to him and he is going to continue to jerk you around emotionally because he knows every one of your buttons.  He has you to take every frustration out on and to blame for every setback, why should he bother? As for your feeling like his Mom, and being scared entangled and frustrated..He isn't going to man up until you actually are gone and you won't step away from the habit of rescuing him and everything else until you have walked away. It's the hardest thing to do, but sometimes we have to just cut our losses and move on.

Third... While I love that my Prof's have laid out the classes and homework so I can get a head start on it...I hate that I can already see I am going to be playing catch up on the boards....ARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH

Forth..Linea good luck with Miles..he will forgive you and cuddle very soon. Try using a boiled tea bag on the claw marks, the heat will help shrink the swelling, the tannin will help in the healing and lower the risk of infection. Black tea is great for drawing and drying out wounds.


poenkitten sending Hugs to all who need them...



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RE: I hate it when........ - 1/11/2009 9:15:00 AM   
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Aynne *hugs*  You are doing YOURSELF a great disservice by not following your bliss, not to mention making yourself miserable (which can lead to health issues).  He's an adult.  It is NOT your responsibility to take care of him anymore.  HE doesnt have friends?  NOT your problem.  Your parents love him?  Great!!  You do not NEED anyones approval to make the move to TX.. while it would be NICE, your health, happiness and well-being should be your priority, especially since you are obviously unhappy with the ways things stand right now.
You dont have to sneak away.. Talk to your parents.  You never know.. they might turn out to be very supportive!

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RE: I hate it when........ - 1/11/2009 9:18:33 AM   
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hey there everyone...i hate it when i cant post things....whats up today, is it the weather?

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RE: I hate it when........ - 1/11/2009 9:26:25 AM   
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Poenkitten I wish you were closer! Thank you so much. Without getting into a long one again today, he is not a bad man, that makes it harder. He can be horribly verbally abusive but it is because he works 80 hours a week and he wants me to "fix" everything. This is the truth, I want nothing at all from the business, absolutely nothing, I just want my freedom and I want to go and know he isn't going to fall apart, but the adult me knows he will make it, the emotional me cries thinking about it. NOt to mention that my parents love him and they think we are divorced (we are) but trying to reconcile that is why we live in the same house. That is so not it, he is just one of those people that has a horrible time making friends because he is so bitter all the time and I know that I am the only one that he has to turn to, I really am not being a martyr, it has always been that way. But goddamnit, how long do I put my life on hold? You know what I think? That I just bite the bullet, have Sir come get me and leave, and in a few months the ex will be fine.This has undoubtedly been the worst year of my life, emotionally and financially, and I am just drained, I feel like an empty shell of my former self and god DAMN it that is not me.  I don't even have an excuse about my situation, Master has said a million times babygirl just pack your clothes and nothing else come home and let's start our life.  But when I get like this I hide from the world and I just want to curl up and die. At 40 years old I dont want to have to answer to my very square parents why I am leaving and I don't want to sneak out like a theif in the night either, it seems so shady, but I definietly don't see me getting anyone's blessing. I guess what I am asking is is it ok to follow your bliss if it means leaving someone you once loved wrecked? I lied, I am rambling again, I love all of you for listening to me, I really do, you have no idea how much it means to just be listened
to, of course Sir does but he obviously is far to entrenched in it to be objective. ANyway, huge hugs Poen, I love your words of wisdom

Holly you too, thank you friend. 


He will not fall apart.  He is an adult & the fact that he has no friends but you is his own choice.  The President of The Sweet Potato Queens says it best, in my opinion:

"Life really is too short, but it's also waaaaaaaay too long to live it like this!!"

Words of wisdom, my dear.  You need to stop propping him up, allow him to stand on his own feet & be a man & get on with your bliss.  It really is ok to be happy in life.  God won't smite you.  Nobody will spit on you on the street.  Your parents will understand once you tell them the whole story.  They like him now because you haven't told them how you really feel being with him.  If my daughter came to me & told me her fiance was making her feel this way, I'd shoot him in the knees!!!!!  Whether they like him or not should have no bearing on how you live your life.

Please do yourself a favor & stop living your life the way others tell you that you should & go live it in the way that makes you happy that you're on this earth.

I speak from expereince.

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RE: I hate it when........ - 1/11/2009 9:30:19 AM   
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... I wasn't trying to have a pity party I just needed to vent



Hah! Pity doesn't come into it - I fancy the socks off you! I see a beautiful girl, I melt 

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RE: I hate it when........ - 1/11/2009 9:39:56 AM   
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i absolutely second linneas opinion.....absolutely right....

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RE: I hate it when........ - 1/11/2009 9:45:33 AM   
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Linnea, Sundowner, Greedy, Persephonee, all of you wonderful people, I thank you with all of my heart, you mean more to me than I can tell you, thank you thank you! Linnea can I cmail you? I don't want to derail this with my stuff anymore. hugs to all of you big hearted people! Thanks friends!

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RE: I hate it when........ - 1/11/2009 9:45:57 AM   
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... I wasn't trying to have a pity party I just needed to vent



Hah! Pity doesn't come into it - I fancy the socks off you! I see a beautiful girl, I melt 



*sobs*  I saw no sign of melting when *I* was there!

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RE: I hate it when........ - 1/11/2009 9:46:35 AM   
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Aynne...words of wisdom? No..just words based on my own experiences.

I spent 13 years making the best of a BAD situation. My ex never hit me, never touched me except for hugs after the first two years of marriage. He worked, with enormous strain on me, as I encouraged, cajoled, woke him up for work and got him out of the door. He was a God in his own mind and the best thing ( he thought) to every company he worked for, but managed to get fired from every one of them. He WAS verbally and emotionally abusive and blamed everyone but himself for his firing, his lack of friends and drank like a fish. We had a house, that was purchased with my inheritance from my mothers estate as the down payment. He never lifted a finger in that house without 4 days of struggle on my part ( my kids would pitch in from the time they were 4 to help mom (but were long grown or gone by now)) and would step over a mess rather than pick it up. He never paid a bill and would demand to be in charge of the check book from time to time, leaving me to solve financial problems he created. There were many things that led to the divorce and there was a straw that broke the camels back. I was his mother, not his wife for the most part, and anything could set him off. I walked out of my home and into Masters arms in the 13th year and never looked back in regret. OK..yes there was regret, regret that he has been living off his mother now for 5 years..barely holds a part time job and is as much an ass to her as he was to me and those around us. There was regret that I had to leave my home in his possession ( but I wrote my divorce in such a way as it would revert to me to sell and get my inheritance out of before he saw 50% of any profit as I knew he would default the mortgage within a year (and  he did))..and I am still cleaning up my credit from his decimation of it. I was nice, I gave him $500 to get back to NJ..he went though that and tapped his mother and brother for the money to get back. He blames her now for his not working..she NEEDS him to take care of her since she is in a wheelchair..SHE wants him to get a job and get out..and doesn't need his help.

Since I walked out and gave up his verbal abuse and have been in Masters arms I have been happier than I ever thought I could be in this life. My friends see the change, and just about every one of them has asked at some point why I stayed. Answer..I felt responsible..for him, for the way he was, and like he would not make it without me. It took a long time for me to realize, I was NOT responsible for him, his happiness or success. That was his responsibility. If you would like to see who and what I was married to write me on Cmail and I will give you his Youtube name and link. Take a look and see how much in common they have...

You HAVE to do for yourself. You are not responsible for him. You are not responsible to your parents in regards to your marraige and if they insist on an answer tell them point blank.. I am not happy, we are not getting back together, and I no longer need the stress of being near him and verbally abused by him. If they are that much into him they will soon find out what you were living with as they try to stay in contact.

YOU DESERVE TO BE HAPPY. You will not be until you have moved on, let go of the old and embraced the new. It can be very scary I know, but you are a strong and fantastic woman as exhibited by the things you have been able to put up with and survive, and the caring you show. Time to care about you.

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RE: I hate it when........ - 1/11/2009 9:50:15 AM   
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Holly you are sweet beyond belief, thank you

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I am also so mad at myself that I am such a coward

you are not a coward, Aynne. You are a caring and compassionate person.



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RE: I hate it when........ - 1/11/2009 9:54:36 AM   
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poenkitten, tears again....but thank you. Pretty odd isn't it, people I have never met give me such support, and it truly resonates. Like I said he is not a "bad" man, just bitter and angry and I am tired of being the emotional cheerleader for him while my heart aches to be with my Love. I need to really do some work now, you know, pray to God but keep rowing to the shore. Kisses and hugs you two! 

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RE: I hate it when........ - 1/11/2009 10:30:45 AM   
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I hate that I am completely jealous of my sister because Pye's brother Buckethead (yeah I know odd name but a family name) is so devoted to her and a one person cat.  For some odd reason he doesnt want to be near me, he hisses, slaps (declawed) and lays in wait in places he knows Im gonna walk. But with sis they are attached at the hip. I have never reacted negativly to it, in fact with the foot slaps I just say oh he was just giving me foot rubs.

I can see he is going through the confusion of Pye not being here, looking for him ect.  I have been careful around him and we decided I would be owner of treats since none were allowed while pye was here due to his diet.

My sister has another to fall back on. I have nothing except trying to get his brother to like me better.  He is the only cat that has ever done it to me but like I noted, he is a ONE person cat, plus I was the one that did all the owie stuff to Pye and perhaps thats why.

We have every intention of getting another cat, we feel that with Buckets nature that a kitty would be the easiest to add to the family, thinking another his size he would feel territorial and reject him plus, he is a bit of a crankster.

I know its too early yet, for the cats sake, but I just wanna cry when I see them all cuddled up.

I hate this unfair resentment.

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RE: I hate it when........ - 1/11/2009 10:51:08 AM   
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Linnea can I cmail you?



Please feel free to do that, hon.  I'm always open to anyone here who wants to talk about whatever.

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