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sadomasokisti -> CBT - shaft piercing (3/16/2008 7:01:33 AM)
I'm mainly interested in hearing from those who have experience with or special knowledge about temporary shaft piercing. What to look for, what to avoid etc. Also what problems have arisen and how they were solved.

domahpet -> RE: CBT - shaft piercing (3/16/2008 8:31:33 AM)
play piercing, pierce, wear, remove. ive been studying this alot lately, heres a cool link, short and fast: http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art37310.asp

MistressVnus -> RE: CBT - shaft piercing (3/16/2008 8:47:47 AM)
quote: I'm mainly interested in hearing from those who have experience with or special knowledge about temporary shaft piercing. Before I can give you much advice I need a little more claity on what you are seeking. Are you referring to "temporary" piercing as in, actually placing jewelry in the piercing, then removing after a very short time. Like a day? Or, are you referring to needle play? Pierced with needles, such as a ladder formation down the frenum? Please clarify.

sadomasokisti -> RE: CBT - shaft piercing (3/16/2008 8:55:42 AM)
I'm sorry. I meant needle play. Temporary piercing through the shaft of the penis it self. Not just the skin.

MistressVnus -> RE: CBT - shaft piercing (3/16/2008 10:35:19 AM)
quote: through the shaft of the penis it self. I've NEVER heard of this being done, nor do I think it is safe due to the massive veins/arteries that run inside the penis shaft. The only piercings I have seen "down" the shaft of the penis are done along the frenum line. The frenum skin is pulled up and needles are pushed through where, obviously, there are no major veins visible. One can create a "ladder" effect by alternating the direcion of the needles and place several, 50-100, down the shaft along the frenum. Just make sure you don't hit the frenum line itself. You can see frenum ladder in actual "piercings" at the link below. The only thing NEAR what you are talking about is an "ampallang" piercing that goes through the head of the penis, side to side. It can, or can not run through the uretha. Or an "apadravya" piercing that also runs only through the head of the penis, but in the other direction, top to bottom. For a list of different penile piercings that are acceptable, go here..... http://wiki.bmezine.com/index.php/Category:Male_Genital_Piercings If you don't see where a piercing needle has gone through (and there are NONE through the shaft) then I can assure you it probably isn't very safe for any needle play either. It would be most wise to call any piercing shop and ask about it if you are hell bent on trying it anyway. But, I think you will see it isn't a good idea.

sadomasokisti -> RE: CBT - shaft piercing (3/16/2008 10:57:43 AM)
I have seen it done on pics and in videos. Have experienced needles both through the shaft skin and through the cock head. I'm just looking for information before I decide if I'll be comfortable with having it done to me.

Lynnxz -> RE: CBT - shaft piercing (3/16/2008 11:42:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MistressVnus I've NEVER heard of this being done, nor do I think it is safe due to the massive veins/arteries that run inside the penis shaft. The only piercings I have seen "down" the shaft of the penis are done along the frenum line. The frenum skin is pulled up and needles are pushed through where, obviously, there are no major veins visible. One can create a "ladder" effect by alternating the direcion of the needles and place several, 50-100, down the shaft along the frenum. Just make sure you don't hit the frenum line itself. You can see frenum ladder in actual "piercings" at the link below. The only thing NEAR what you are talking about is an "ampallang" piercing that goes through the head of the penis, side to side. It can, or can not run through the uretha. Or an "apadravya" piercing that also runs only through the head of the penis, but in the other direction, top to bottom. For a list of different penile piercings that are acceptable, go here..... http://wiki.bmezine.com/index.php/Category:Male_Genital_Piercings If you don't see where a piercing needle has gone through (and there are NONE through the shaft) then I can assure you it probably isn't very safe for any needle play either. It would be most wise to call any piercing shop and ask about it if you are hell bent on trying it anyway. But, I think you will see it isn't a good idea. Eeeeewww.... I'd never seen a "fresh" piercing there before.. blech. But anyways, MistressVnus gave you good advise, definitly go into a piercing shop and ask for pointers.

petdave -> RE: CBT - shaft piercing (3/16/2008 7:49:39 PM)
You might have better luck asking around on BME, but they'll probably tell you the same thing- it's VERY risky. i've had quite a few temporary and permanent piercings below the waist, all done either by my wife or myself, so we've read up on the subject... and i wouldn't even consider it. Honestly, i suspect that the sensation wouldn't be nearly as intense as going through the head, anyway... unless you're trying to do damage, you won't get as much out of the shaft piercing aside from the visual.

lovelylucy -> RE: CBT - shaft piercing (3/17/2008 7:16:17 AM)
Not like this? http://wiki.bmezine.com/index.php/Shaft_Ampallang_Piercing

MsSaskia -> RE: CBT - shaft piercing (3/17/2008 11:20:26 AM)
I've done through-and-through play piercings on the shaft before. I've stuck needles into the shaft, not penetrating to the other side, I've done it with full penetration coming out the other side. I've done needles on the diagonal and not coming out the other side. I've pierced the corona and stuck needles down into the urethra (to be fair/clear, the bottom for that had split his penis a few inches down the underside, so the urethra in that area was not moist tissue and the edges of the split in the shaft was healed ). I've also put half inch needles directly into the testicles. The bottom I did all that to is someone who's had much more extreme play than just needles and was experienced enough to know how his body would respond and heal. The most blood came from putting the needle all the way through the shaft so it came out the other side. When I withdrew the needle, a very large blood blister formed on the far side (was gone within a couple of days) and enough blood came gushing out the entry point that it filled my cupped hands and we painted the front half of my body with it. Yay for tarps that cover the entire living room floor. [:D]

MsSaskia -> RE: CBT - shaft piercing (3/17/2008 11:28:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lynnxz Eeeeewww.... I'd never seen a "fresh" piercing there before.. blech. But anyways, MistressVnus gave you good advise, definitly go into a piercing shop and ask for pointers. I've had mixed luck talking about BDSM play with professional piercers. One gave me a lecture on how it's not legal for anyone but licensed piercers in a licensed shop to do any type of piercings, even temporary, and that it's illegal for a non-professional to own needles or similar tools, supplies, equipment. O...kay. He was pretty surly about it and I was there with someone I was taking for their first ear piercing, paying money and everything like a citizen. Other piercers and body mod artists have been happy to trade tips and ideas and stories.

MistresssAria -> RE: CBT - shaft piercing (3/18/2008 1:15:24 AM)
I'm a professional piercer & I think it's fine to use with BDSM play and such as long as you know how to do it safely. It's usually not illegal for non-piercers to own body piercing equipment (it's a state-to-state decision).........I'm in Chicago & Illinois doesn't do any sort of licensing for piercers - most learn through apprenticeships (as I did.....and it doesn't hurt to have a dad who's an MD). I think I need to post general info. on this.........some of the questions I've responded to have freaked me out for the safety of the person! sadomasokisi..........what all do you know so far? To do safe play piercing, you really need (at the bare minimum) a non-porous surface to set things on, a sharps container, nitrile, non-powdered, medical-grade gloves, Technicare (surgical skin prep - kills 99.9% of bacteria with 30-second contact), corks, surgical scissors, a garbage can to throw gloves in that will be sealed directly after play, gauze pads, paper towels, and a hospital-grade disinfectant to clean up the area needles were set on/anything that gets blood on it. this is a bare minimum standards approach, I accept no liability if you listen to me haha -person washes hands with anti-bacterial soap -put gloves on -use paper towels to clean non-porous area with disinfectant - let disinfectant sit for 10 minutes (unless the bottle says differently) -change gloves -fold 3 sets of layered paper towels so the "clean" (underside) area is on top & set on area -set out packaged needles on one paper towel, and the sharps container on another -change gloves -set out gauze on another paper towel, open needles from packages & also set on this, along with some technicare preventing bacterial cross-contamination here by using separate paper towels & changing gloves -change gloves -use gauze to scrub area to be pierced with technicare, let sit for 30 seconds, use gauze to clean off -throw away gauze -change gloves -pierce (and cork ends of needles to prevent other person from getting stuck!) - should someone ever stick themself after the needle is through you, they should immediately use the surgical scissors to cut off the tip of the needle since play piercing needles are hypodermic needles & have to be pulled back through your skin - you may have contaminated them with your blood, but you don't also want to contaminate yourself! Then the person who got stuck should wash where they got stuck with an anti-bacterial soap & keep running water over the wound for 15 minutes then get tested -do whatever - non-waxed floss is good for wrapping around the needles & pulling on for fun -take corks off one needle at a time & put both the cork & needle in a sharps container -change gloves -once again, repeat the process of cleaning the entire area that was pierced with technicare -change gloves -at least bag up sharps container if you're going to re-use it - you can't close the lids since they don't re-open -throw away paper towels that had things setting on them -change gloves -bag up garbage can & take garbage out wearing gloves -wash hands with anti-bacterial soap As for what to avoid.........my preference is that needles are only put through fleshy skin that can be pinched on the shaft/balls. Hope that helps!

sadomasokisti -> RE: CBT - shaft piercing (3/18/2008 5:04:07 AM)
Thanks all for the reply. What I have gathered so far from other resources. -You don't want to pierce through the urethra. -Avoid blood vessels as possible, usually seen on the surface. Palpate the penis when flaccid and try to find small lumps or "adhesions". If none are found it should be safe to pierce. -24G needles or thinner are recommended -Expect a lot of blood. -Expect bruising. Can be reduced by applying pressure with the finger after removing the needle. Ice should also help. -Main issue with shaft piercing is associated with scarring in the erectile tissue.

MsSaskia -> RE: CBT - shaft piercing (3/18/2008 11:47:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MistresssAria I'm a professional piercer & I think it's fine to use with BDSM play and such as long as you know how to do it safely. It's usually not illegal for non-piercers to own body piercing equipment (it's a state-to-state decision).........I'm in Chicago & Illinois doesn't do any sort of licensing for piercers - most learn through apprenticeships (as I did.....and it doesn't hurt to have a dad who's an MD). I think I need to post general info. on this.........some of the questions I've responded to have freaked me out for the safety of the person! sadomasokisi..........what all do you know so far? To do safe play piercing, you really need (at the bare minimum) a non-porous surface to set things on, a sharps container, nitrile, non-powdered, medical-grade gloves, Technicare (surgical skin prep - kills 99.9% of bacteria with 30-second contact), corks, surgical scissors, a garbage can to throw gloves in that will be sealed directly after play, gauze pads, paper towels, and a hospital-grade disinfectant to clean up the area needles were set on/anything that gets blood on it. this is a bare minimum standards approach, I accept no liability if you listen to me haha -person washes hands with anti-bacterial soap -put gloves on -use paper towels to clean non-porous area with disinfectant - let disinfectant sit for 10 minutes (unless the bottle says differently) -change gloves -fold 3 sets of layered paper towels so the "clean" (underside) area is on top & set on area -set out packaged needles on one paper towel, and the sharps container on another -change gloves -set out gauze on another paper towel, open needles from packages & also set on this, along with some technicare preventing bacterial cross-contamination here by using separate paper towels & changing gloves -change gloves -use gauze to scrub area to be pierced with technicare, let sit for 30 seconds, use gauze to clean off -throw away gauze -change gloves -pierce (and cork ends of needles to prevent other person from getting stuck!) - should someone ever stick themself after the needle is through you, they should immediately use the surgical scissors to cut off the tip of the needle since play piercing needles are hypodermic needles & have to be pulled back through your skin - you may have contaminated them with your blood, but you don't also want to contaminate yourself! Then the person who got stuck should wash where they got stuck with an anti-bacterial soap & keep running water over the wound for 15 minutes then get tested -do whatever - non-waxed floss is good for wrapping around the needles & pulling on for fun -take corks off one needle at a time & put both the cork & needle in a sharps container -change gloves -once again, repeat the process of cleaning the entire area that was pierced with technicare -change gloves -at least bag up sharps container if you're going to re-use it - you can't close the lids since they don't re-open -throw away paper towels that had things setting on them -change gloves -bag up garbage can & take garbage out wearing gloves -wash hands with anti-bacterial soap As for what to avoid.........my preference is that needles are only put through fleshy skin that can be pinched on the shaft/balls. Hope that helps! I do just about everything you've described/suggested when I do blood play; however, I don't change gloves every time I touch something else. I see the gloves as protection primarily for myself, so I'll generally get everything set out bare-handed (washed hands first), then glove up when I'm about to handle needles or sutures. I see people changing gloves every other minute when they're doing scenes, but I see them pulling gloves out of an open box of them. They're not sterile when it's an open box of gloves, not individually wrapped so you can put them on using sterile technique, so I wonder what the point is. Your opinion is appreciated.

aftersh0ck -> RE: CBT - shaft piercing (4/15/2008 6:29:47 PM)
After reading what MsSaskia posted, i had to comment on the up and down side of those activities, while recovering from a surgery at home but playing with a domme, i had her inject my heparin in the shaft of my penis with a 1/2" 31g needle, about piercing the shaft the reason why not to do that is the piercing causes scar tissue which blocks the blood flow and plaque builds up around that and over time it causes the penis to bend, shrink or cause impotence which is called peyronnies disease, fixing it can be as easy as medication, but in bad cases surgery and its nothing good, as for piercing the the balls it is edge play, and if you are interested in it or already play, a good idea is to look at the anatomy of the testicle on a diagram and learn where everything is, but as in testicle piercing my mistress fantasized about it after seeing a movie and being a big cbt and needle fan i let her fullfill herself but i had to educate her a little about the ways to this since after seeing the movie i thought it was a little careless, i wanted to research it before it happened, she put 8 2.5'' 27g needles into each testicle while bound tight the first session of play to get a idea what is what going to be like, i know you some of you dommes like the idea of putting needles through a slaves balls is arousing and to me and other subs it is also, but all the nerves and feeling are on the outer part of the testicle, once the needle had penatrated we dont feel it unless you it through to the other side, all there is inside is the tubes for sperm and testoserone production, on the top and back side is the epididymis which stores the sperm but the vas defrens and the spermatic cord run in that area also, the front and the sides and bottom are your safe areas, in january of 06 i had to go to the hospital because my left testicle was swollen twice the normal size and sore, but it wasnt from what you think it was from a intense ballbusting session, the swelling you see after is fluid building up between the testicle and the scrotum and is very attractive for bacteria to find and collect and cause a serious infection which i ended up, antibiotics took care of it, but any longer i was looking at surgery, thinking ballbusting, crushing, or just piercing the sack is safe and not as extreme as some of the above, its all a crap shoot, just play as safe as you are comfortable doing, and yes i do have a few pics from the session

kickable -> RE: CBT - shaft piercing (4/27/2008 11:27:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MistressVnus quote: through the shaft of the penis it self. I've NEVER heard of this being done, nor do I think it is safe due to the massive veins/arteries that run inside the penis shaft. The only piercings I have seen "down" the shaft of the penis are done along the frenum line. The frenum skin is pulled up and needles are pushed through where, obviously, there are no major veins visible. One can create a "ladder" effect by alternating the direcion of the needles and place several, 50-100, down the shaft along the frenum. Just make sure you don't hit the frenum line itself. You can see frenum ladder in actual "piercings" at the link below. The only thing NEAR what you are talking about is an "ampallang" piercing that goes through the head of the penis, side to side. It can, or can not run through the uretha. Or an "apadravya" piercing that also runs only through the head of the penis, but in the other direction, top to bottom. For a list of different penile piercings that are acceptable, go here..... http://wiki.bmezine.com/index.php/Category:Male_Genital_Piercings If you don't see where a piercing needle has gone through (and there are NONE through the shaft) then I can assure you it probably isn't very safe for any needle play either. It would be most wise to call any piercing shop and ask about it if you are hell bent on trying it anyway. But, I think you will see it isn't a good idea. Mistress Venus, Thank you for the authoritative, informative response and the link to a comprehensive look at the question. kickable

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