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PhaetonDray -> new Master has granted , control over own thoughts and & opinions (3/17/2008 2:57:43 AM)

I was brought into this lifestyle at 15. Untill now i have only had 1 Master till he died in a car crash last Aug. Master Joe, has left me to a new Master who allows me to do odd things and i think it is causing much mental conflicts....like unprogramming me....but hes not doing it  on pourpous.

What would be the proper way to sugguest  a cease to this distructive behavior. I have prided myself to bein  an emaculant slave, who would present and everything, but this Master knows notmuch of this lifestyle would it be right for me to educate him in these  proper lifestyle ways?

slave Phaeton




julietsierra -> RE: new Master has granted , control over own thoughts and & opinions (3/17/2008 3:05:50 AM)

Your new Master is under no obligation to conduct himself or you for that matter in the same fashion your previous Master did. And it doesn't really matter how long he's been around. If it didn't fit for him, and you are saying you agree that he is your Master, then you do what he wants you to do.

I'd suggest considering it a learning opportunity rather than see him as somehow being at fault. I'd also suggest you getting off on your own for a while and learning what it means to have your own thoughts, make up your own mind etc... but since that's not the question you asked, I'll just say if you are the person you say you are, then do what he says. There's more to life and more to service than simply being able to sit, stand or do jumping jacks for that matter in proper positions.

But you're probably right in that what he's doing has some destructive qualities behind it. As they should. I'd venture a guess that he's destroying the previous master's hold over you and instituting his own. When you get to the point where you stop comparing him to your old Master and start seeing him for who he is, I'd be willing to bet that these so called destructive actions will stop.

And here's an interesting thought. Perhaps your new Master isn't as destructive as he is constructive - with you being his new project.

Hush.

juliet




TotalState -> RE: new Master has granted , control over own thoughts and & opinions (3/17/2008 4:36:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: PhaetonDray

....like unprogramming me....

Repeat after me:  "I am not a robot". 

Keep saying it until it is hard-coded into your BIOS.




xxblushesxx -> RE: new Master has granted , control over own thoughts and & opinions (3/17/2008 6:46:53 AM)

*shakes head*
*looks for mod II*
*backs out slowly from the room*




GreedyTop -> RE: new Master has granted , control over own thoughts and & opinions (3/17/2008 6:49:29 AM)

*entices christina with chocolate* come with me....




chamberqueen -> RE: new Master has granted , control over own thoughts and & opinions (3/17/2008 7:14:13 AM)

Your title isn't repeated in the topic but may be the most important part.  If your confusion is coming in because you are now allowed to think on your own and you are used to having every single move dictated to you, it will take time for you to adjust.  It does not mean that your Master is not doing His job; just in a different way.

My Daddy allows me a lot of latitude in how I do things because he enjoys my creativity.  For instance, He may tell me to undress Him but doesn't tell me step by step which article of clothing to remove first.  I can choose whether to do it quickly or can take my time, giving his body kisses while I go.  I have the freedom to speak, and often give him heartfelt compliments. 

Some would rather be told every single step, whether they could look Him in the eyes, whether to give a kiss or rub their hands over Him, what speed to do it at, etc.  Going from an extremely structured style to a more free one can leave you feeling a bit lost. 

However, it is not YOUR job to train HIM.  Communication is the cornerstone of the lifestyle, and it is certainly proper to let Him know when you are feeling uncomfortable - either pysically or emotionally.  You can tell Him the things that you like the most (I find this gets a person a lot farther than saying the things that you like least).  If He is your Master then you have already placed your trust in Him.  Use that trust, and communication, to help you to work through this.




Justme696 -> RE: new Master has granted , control over own thoughts and & opinions (3/17/2008 8:40:01 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: TotalState

quote:

ORIGINAL: PhaetonDray

....like unprogramming me....

Repeat after me:  "I am not a robot". 

Keep saying it until it is hard-coded into your BIOS.



that is the risk of beeing programmed at 15. To young to be formed to a sub or slave. But propably some Masters find that great..because in this age..people are influenced the most.
A Master/Dom who does this has no responsibility in my opinion.




beargonewild -> RE: new Master has granted , control over own thoughts and & opinions (3/17/2008 8:40:06 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: PhaetonDray

I was brought into this lifestyle at 15. Untill now i have only had 1 Master till he died in a car crash last Aug. Master Joe, has left me to a new Master who allows me to do odd things and i think it is causing much mental conflicts....like unprogramming me....but hes not doing it  on pourpous.

What would be the proper way to sugguest  a cease to this distructive behavior. I have prided myself to bein  an emaculant slave, who would present and everything, but this Master knows notmuch of this lifestyle would it be right for me to educate him in these  proper lifestyle ways?

slave Phaeton


Please consider the fact that you now have a new Master who has his own ways and methods to train a slave. No two Masters will train a slave in the exact same manner as each have their own methods and beliefs which they feel are correct for them and their property. You may be able to suggest things to your new owner which he may or may not comply, that is his choice and not yours.

Yet try to understand that he is also learning more and more of this lifestyle just like you are learning how to serve a new Master. You stated that he knows little of the master/slave lifestyle, use that as a focus of understanding why he does things the way he does. Remember that you too were once a newbie in the ways of being a slave and your owner at the time took the time and energy to invest in you, this is a two way street as you need to apply that to your new Master.






chaosforge -> RE: new Master has granted , control over own thoughts and & opinions (3/17/2008 12:19:56 PM)

'Pretty sure it's a bad idea to mention your expiriences from age 15. -just phoenix




DesFIP -> RE: new Master has granted , control over own thoughts and & opinions (3/17/2008 12:45:26 PM)

Tell him the great difficulty you're having and ask him for suggestions of books to read or courses to take that will help you learn to think for yourself. Which is what he appears to be aiming for and therefore you should be learning to do so.

One of my greatest uses to The Man is that he thinks in terms of the big picture, and I think in terms of details. This way I can point out icebergs ahead before he hits them. He would like me just as much I'm sure, without this ability but he would find me more of a burden. I'm of more use to him when I can and do think on my own. Right now he has a major financial decision in the wind, and I pointed out that he's making his decision on assumptions and he needs to get the facts together first.




krikket -> RE: new Master has granted , control over own thoughts and & opinions (3/17/2008 5:48:46 PM)

i'm definately onfused here, but does your newest master know you're looking for another, at least according to your profile:
 
Hi,
My name is Phaeton-Dray,
I Desire lots of spankings ...and i am seeking a Master who has  knowledge in Erotic Bondage.
I do not want to be in a poly ....
For i shall be an extention of my Masters perfections throught him i will learn  what he desires to teach me to satisfy his twisted pleasures.


My other suggestion..have you tried talking to him -- person-to-person, man to woman, friend to friend?

Just an observation..ya never know what might help!!!

regards,
jimini


quote:

ORIGINAL: PhaetonDray

I was brought into this lifestyle at 15. Untill now i have only had 1 Master till he died in a car crash last Aug. Master Joe, has left me to a new Master who allows me to do odd things and i think it is causing much mental conflicts....like unprogramming me....but hes not doing it  on pourpous.

What would be the proper way to sugguest  a cease to this distructive behavior. I have prided myself to bein  an emaculant slave, who would present and everything, but this Master knows notmuch of this lifestyle would it be right for me to educate him in these  proper lifestyle ways?

slave Phaeton




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