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kittinSol -> RE: The paranormal and ghost and spirits (4/3/2008 9:46:41 AM)

Yay. Here I come [8D] .




JohnWarren -> RE: The paranormal and ghost and spirits (4/3/2008 10:04:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: adoracat

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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren

Here's an excellent antidote to those phonied up "ghost hunter" shows

http://www.csicop.org/



there are good shows and drek, absolutely.  the ones that go in babbling about "i can feel this, i can hear that!" are intellectual chewing gum. 

the ones where the people go in trying to debunk...THOSE i like.  they openly admit it to the person when they cant find anything, they try to find reasonable explainations for the phenomena that are claimed to happen.

example...person claims to feel like someone is watching them in a certain location in the house...and there is an array of unshielded wiring there, giving off a high electro-magnetic frequency.  scientific exploration has proven that high EMF readings can give you that creepy feeling that someone is watching you.

i like seeing a reasonable explaination for such things.

i still, however, cannot explain how the doorknob turned and the door opened with no one there at my grandmother's house.  especially knowing that to open that door once it was secure you had to push in on the door, turn the knob while lifting it, and pull.  it just couldnt happen on accident at all.

kitten


Then you will LOVE this website and its associated publications.  Reasonable explanations are what they look for.




atursvcMaam -> RE: The paranormal and ghost and spirits (4/3/2008 10:08:26 AM)

i never worked on proving the paranormal, but have always accepted the existence of ghosts and such.  i consider myself relatively sane and rational, but have always thought that the young, and some on different planes of reality have conversations with those that i do not see.  i also once lived with a woman who could say "good night" in Ukrainian.  The problem was that the only one in her history that spoke Ukrainian was a grandmother that had passed away 4 years before she was born, but in the house she grew up in.  Who am i to argue logic like that.  in reality, i was a bit spooked about it, asked a lot of questions, and did not find another explanation.  i will accept it as a working theory until someone can prove otherwise.




mzbehavin -> RE: The paranormal and ghost and spirits (4/3/2008 10:22:12 AM)

I've never seen a ghost. But i have seen a mirror that went 'bad' and became a portal. That was very weird. Also, the day my Grandfather died in Calif, he called me in Alaska within the hour and sang me a very happy "Hello hello" song. That phone has never worked since....




lighthearted -> RE: The paranormal and ghost and spirits (4/3/2008 10:39:54 AM)

I've always been very sensitive to that "other" kind of energy.  in my home there is a bedroom where I tend to kind of neglect, just from the vibe I get.  I've always gotten the sensation of a presence there, so this week I asked a friend of mine over to get his take on it.  he's a lot more "gifted" in this area than I am, imo...anyway, without giving him ANY specifics at all, he picked up on exactly what I did.  he was able to narrow it down a bit more.  the negativity I always felt, he picked up on as sadness; the "creature" I felt as between 3-4 ft high he recognized as a 7 year old; the long hair that I saw in my mind he identified as a sandy blond-haired girl.  he got the feeling she was sent to that room, in the corner, as punishment.  my house was built in 1940 so it's entirely possible as well that someone who had lived here when it was built has passed away, here or elsewhere, as well.  it's all just a little too concindental, in my mind, to be "nothing".

anyway, my mom and my grandmother both always felt they had some kind of psychic gift.  as my mom lives with me now, you can imagine that at times there is some interesting stuff going on here.  incidentally, my mom used to read Tarot cards for herself and friends.  she stopped doing it because she was "afraid"...afraid of the power and afraid of how accurate she had become.




Taintedblood -> RE: The paranormal and ghost and spirits (4/3/2008 11:15:49 AM)

I don't investigate paranormal activities however, i have had several experiences as have most family members.  my most recent experience was on Monday or else Tuesday night.




MissMorrigan -> RE: The paranormal and ghost and spirits (4/3/2008 11:37:02 AM)

My grandfather, that died in the house my mother owns, used to sit on the end of his bed. I went to stay with my mother when she became ill some years ago and ended up sleeping in the same room which used to be my grandfather's bedroom. Infact, the bed was in the same place (not the same bed, of course). And one of my wardrobes was actually his old Tallboy. I'd be sitting in bed reading, have a cat laying by the side of me purring away. Then suddenly the cat would stop purring, flatten itself down and its eyes would go jet black, staring towards 'nothing'. I'd move my foot around only to feel a solid mass on the bed. I knew it was my grandfather and as soon as I'd say, "I'm trying to relax here, get off the bed you old bugger" it would go and the cat would relax again.

I also have two witnesses to an event that occurred in the bedroom (such filthy minds!). We were all in the lounge one night, my old bedroom is right over the lounge. I could hear lots of bumps and bangs upstairs and thought it was the cats playing about, but it got louder to the point I got up to check on them only to find them both warming themselves by the radiator and clearly having just woken up. Told the folks the cats weren't responsible, so father followed me up the stairs (mum trailing behind us both lol) and we went into my room only to find that the wardrobe doors had been opened, the drawers pulled out and the contents all over the room. I ALWAYS lock my wardrobes b/c of the cats getting into them and getting their fur all over my clothes.

When my marriage was going through the final stages - amicably, I have to say, no animosity. I still lived in London and sharing the home with my soon-to-be ex husband some strange things began occuring, such as he'd being me a cup of tea, I always leave it to cool down slightly before drinking, but would reach for my cup only to find nothing in it. I'd of course think he was having me on, but he'd insist he did bring me a cup of tea.

Another occasion, I walked into the kitchen to find a big red bubble on the floor, almost as if someone had dropped a huge red jelly tot which had somewhat melted, slightly raised but a perfect dome. No drops would leave to/from it and after checking us/the cats to see if any of us were bleeding, it was obvious none of us were. I touched the blob and it was enough to disrupt the surface so that it spread across the floor of the kitchen. It was certainly blood. The final event was when we both had a solicitors appointment. I was running late, had my blouse in the tumble drier, the kind where you have to put the hose out of the window. I asked my then hubby to get my blouse out of the drier and then to pull in the hose and lock the window. We finished getting ready, got onto the bus and asked him if he'd remembered to pull in the hose and lock the window... he'd forgotten! I couldn't miss the appointment, so we rushed through it and then got a cab home only to find that the hose had not only been pulled in with the window shut/locked, but the hose itself was coiled back up and fitted inside the tumble drier with the door shut. That's something I NEVER did.

I telephoned a university in London that researches paranormal activity and explained what was happening to me/the house, etc... the guy I spoke with got someone else to phone me up several minutes later. We discussed what had occurred at length, he then invited me to go in for a week's sleep study, explaining that he was certain that what was occuring was nothing ghostlike, etc... but more a case of specific energies that manifest themselves in such a way but in accordance to our emotions, which kind of makes sense.. but is still very scary b/c imagine if you could control that kind of thing? I declined the sleep study, but only due to personal fears.




parttimehotty -> RE: The paranormal and ghost and spirits (4/3/2008 11:47:49 AM)

The "ghost" i encountered was my favorite uncle who died suddenly when he was 34 off a fall from a rooftop. (He was a roofer by trade).  i saw him 2 days before the fall, and spoke w/him on the phone the day before. He was a MAJOR part of my life and his sudden death left me w/such a feeling of loss and confusion............<sigh>. Anywayyyyyy, i was so scared, not knowing what death really means....are we just dead/buried, or do we really have a soul? i agonized over his "fate" and would pray for reassurance. i had exactly 3 dreams about him since he died....1) He was sitting at the dining room table,(where we would all gather/chat, play cards) in his usual t-shirt/brown pants, the rest of the family was there also, but noone noticed him, & the look on his face was serene and he had a light surrounding him while all around us was regular room lighting and he never spoke, just looked at me.  ***i wasn't satisfied, i needed some sore of intereaction ESPECIALLY a hug goodbye***

2)  He spoke to me in this dream, saying he was alright. No light, just the 2 of us in my father's room. (For some reason, i was carrying dry cleaning i had just picked up).
***i wanted my hug***!!!

3)  He came to give me my hug and told me to STOP worrying. God, that hug felt so good!!
**i was complete**

That was 10 years ago and i've not dreamed of him again. 
Ghost?  Or just wishful thinking?




cyberdude611 -> RE: The paranormal and ghost and spirits (4/3/2008 1:12:07 PM)

You guys ever check out that show "Ghost Hunters" on SciFi channel? That's a pretty good show.




Pyrrsefanie -> RE: The paranormal and ghost and spirits (4/3/2008 1:30:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

You guys ever check out that show "Ghost Hunters" on SciFi channel? That's a pretty good show.


Is that the one with TAPS?  Or one of the usual "here's a night-vision camera, now everybody start screaming about shit that nobody actually sees on camera" type shows?

MTV used to have a show that I believe was called Fear where they'd take a bunch of teenagers and stick them in a haunted place and give them tasks to do.  I have to admit that it was pretty addicting for me to watch.  They had a girl on there once who identified as a psychic and kept wandering around muttering to herself something about a "key," then walked over to an old sink and pulled a key out of the drain.

Even the staff freaked out because nobody had said shit about her needing to find a key.  The task that required it was like, three or four tasks off in the future.  There was no way she could have known that there was a key even involved in any tasks, period.

And then some other channel, VH1 maybe, had a celebrity version of it that featured my homegirl Traci Lords.  Poor thing freaked the fuck out when they made her sit in an old wheelchair down in the basement of an abandoned mental hospital.




azropedntied -> RE: The paranormal and ghost and spirits (4/3/2008 3:08:54 PM)

Well Thanks for sharing ya all , i knew i could not have been alone in either the hunting and investigative side  or the  personal story side .I do not often share  my tales as some  just get freaked out by them .As far as the shows on TV  some are crap and some leave you scratching your head and others  are like YES that was a GHOST  wasn't it ?it was RIGHT ? lol . If you go into this looking  for proof and yes there are spirits here , and have your mind made up that your going to find something and not debunk stuff or find a reasonable explanation for things then Yes your going to see stuff everywhere . Yet when your using a voice recorder for example and there are only two people  in the room or property  and your asking questions and getting a response on the recorder that is not  either of the people with you , thats toug to dismiss
For those that do not know about all the shows - Paranormal states  is on a&e-Ghost hunters  is on sci fi -most haunted  is on fri nights on the travel channel -scariest places is on sci-fi , there is another but it is  drama re-enactment tales .My personal two fav's are Ghost Hunters  and Most haunted .Ghost hunters international was great too  but they are on a break .The show Destination Truth is great too though they deal with a very wide subject matter , like  creatures ,sea monsters ,ghosts  ,yetti,bigfoot ,etc .
Some ask why i go out seeking the paranormal , and ghosts ?I think it reverts back to my  curious nature ,the need to find answers ,seek out the truth , gather  some evidence,and sure i am the type to  talk to it and maybe poke it with a stick  or ask whatever it is questions  in hopes of an exchange  .Yeah  sure most  have the  line of thought  of it wont mess with me as long  as i don't  mess with it , " not always the case "   i wanna see what is in the creepy house come with me  if you want  but i am going  anyway .
Perhaps too its all the things that have happened through the years  that make me get more and more into this . Living in a  haunted home  with activity  and interaction ,being touched when nothing is near me ,being marked at Alcatraz when i was the last one in the tour lagging behind  by something or someone that shoved me and left a hand print on my skin  ,getting  some marks and haring voices on the queen mary  , hearing banging and tapping  ,getting responses to asked questions .
To me it s just all so  cool and  fun , now i am slowly updating my kit with newer better equipment  and higher technology  items  as my budget allows , as i do not have a TV show crew  budget  to afford some of those things like TAPS has . I wanted a heat signature  camera with a recorder attached then i found out how much they are OUCH ..
If your also wanting to do this yourself  you can , with some simple tools .
Thanks again for  sharing ya all . Just glad to see there are others  with similar tales .




domiguy -> RE: The paranormal and ghost and spirits (4/3/2008 3:18:03 PM)

Just more ridiculous shit.

I was actually taking in a horrible show called "Paranormal State." "The Team" was on the sight of some "astounding" ghostly occurence when later in the evening the ever eerie sound of coyotes wailing away filled the air. The host stated some nonsense about the wailing being attributed to the spirit world...Of course the more logical explanation was that it was simply coyotes doing whatever it is in the fuck that fucking coyotes do.

What a crock of shit.

"You're right, no human being would stack books like this." - Dr. Peter Venkman, Ghostbusters.




domiguy -> RE: The paranormal and ghost and spirits (4/3/2008 3:27:11 PM)

I once had an unbelievable feeling that the woman that I was dating would really enjoy anal....I knew that she had never experienced it but I had an overwhelming, and as of this date, an unexplained feeling that she would.

Later that evening as I mounted her....I felt as if the eyes of my dead grandfather were watching approvingly as I tore my gal a new one.

It was fucking unbelievable. If I hadn't had been there myself and witnessed first hand the depth and the pleasure of the penetration I would have never have believed it.

There is some shit that happens in this world that defies logic and explanation....

My name is Domiguy and I am a R.A.P.

Registered Anal Psychic




kittinSol -> RE: The paranormal and ghost and spirits (4/3/2008 3:36:48 PM)

I KNEW you'd manage to mention anal on this ghost thread! I just KNEW it! Prescience or what?!!! [8D]




atursvcMaam -> RE: The paranormal and ghost and spirits (4/3/2008 4:57:15 PM)

Maybe the ivy scared her off.




subrob1967 -> RE: The paranormal and ghost and spirits (4/3/2008 7:34:21 PM)

I'm not a fan of Scifi's "Ghost Hunters", their "scientific" methods aren't very scientific. Especially the way they use their IR thermometer.

At least they don't show "orbs" on the reveal.

Holly, Karen and I have done some investigations around Purdue Uni, and at our old home in Lafayette In.

My brother's and I have also investigated quite a few sites around Chicago.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: The paranormal and ghost and spirits (4/3/2008 8:02:36 PM)

I love Ghost Hunters, and am also happy how they don't mention orbs, which IMO are nothing interesting.  My favorite bit of debunking they did---a ballroom that was always cold turned out to have a mess of blankets jammed into the ductwork!  No heat could get through!

For the biggest laughs EVAR, watch Most Haunted on Travel channel.  It's a crew of folks from the UK who evidently get paid to scare themselves!  Supposedly they are checking out the spirit world but the second anything remotely alarming happens they start shrieking like girl scouts telling stories around the campfire.  Periodically a guy who talks to the dead reports in with intel from his spirit guide.  Serious FUN.




azropedntied -> RE: The paranormal and ghost and spirits (4/3/2008 8:05:22 PM)

rob i can find problems in alot of the ways all the shows use there methods .and unless the orb is basketball size  to baseball size  and moving to its own path YES your right i dont wanna see dust lint insulation "orbs" either .
One of the biggest problems i have is finding things  Like new meters  and testing stuff .None locally here in az at all .
If anyone knows a trustworthy dealer  please post 
Thanks
3 more weeks i hope to do another graveyard evp set .




angelbluewingsz -> RE: The paranormal and ghost and spirits (4/3/2008 8:53:16 PM)

some are connected - and usually seen as freaks, some are not and I believe they are missing out.




Aneirin -> RE: The paranormal and ghost and spirits (4/3/2008 9:42:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: azropedntied

Just wondering if there are any others who investigate or ghost hunt ,seek out paranormal activity ?
Several ok MANY years ago i crept around looking for ghosts in my youth and recorded voices where nobody else was present .and recently " the past 3 years " i have renewed this  and been doing more and more learning and investigating .Sure i as perhaps others also watch the shows ghost hunters ,most haunted ,paranormal states and others .I can also say that Halloween is one of my favorite times of the year .
If there are any others  doing this like myself , what do you use  in your investigations ?
Thanks for  your input and sharing .



I keep an open mind on all possibilities.There was a time where I was of a mind that if it could not be felt touched by hand, it is not real. That was the past, but now things are changed, then with science I did go. Now I see science as behind, there is more in this world than science can explain. And explanations are all well and good, but if not in science can be replicated, then theory it remains. A place where theory might be as good as dead.

My awakening came when I opened my mind to more than is seen, I sought senses other than the external and there learned something about myself.

Feeling be it gut or other is another sense we have, not always secondary as we are taught. Push it to the front and you may see what you feel.

My personal and most definate experience came at a time where the veils were thin, I experienced something out of my control, a something which changed my life.

Now,my feelings are fore, a primary sense, science is still there to moderate the rest. Now I exist with a more balanced view, a lesson I had which has taught me best.

Go with the feelings,open the mind to all that may be and keep an open mind.

Who knows, you may be richly rewarded.




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