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Avoidance Of Side Effects? - 4/3/2008 5:36:33 AM   
camille65


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Status: offline 		When I started taking Zoloft I knew one of the potential side effects was weight gain, however it resulted in the opposite for me. I lost nearly 100 pounds in 1 year (the Zoloft combined with a diseased gallbladder), I had to gain 30 pounds back to be a healthier weight and pretty much stablized. Now I'm starting Lyrica & again that is one of the most common side effects. Weight gain. Is there any way to avoid that? I swear I am always hungry now and it drives me nuts. I refuse to eat between meals, I've cut my food intake but I still worry that it is going to add pounds and pounds onto me. I do not want to stop taking the Lyrica because I think it is working. I've slept finally, the past 2 nights I actually slept and already I can feel a positive difference but I worry about the trade off. My family is super tough on anyone that has extra.. my mother does the fat pinch when she hugs someone. (a hug around the waist and a not so discreet pinch of the stomach). I dread that beyond words.

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RE: Avoidance Of Side Effects? - 4/3/2008 5:41:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm currently taking Effexor and weight gain is also an issue with me. The only way I am able to control it is to be hyper vigilant about what I am eating and how much. I was fortunate enough that my insurance covered several sessions with a dietician (due to being diabetic). You may benefit from seeing one also.

Good luck and feel free to email me about weight and meds.

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RE: Avoidance Of Side Effects? - 4/3/2008 5:53:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Obviously, the knee-jerk is going to be to ask your doc... But most likely, you're just going to have to suffer. i know what you mean, though... i'm on a pile of meds (at least two of which are supposed to suppress appetite as a side effect ), and i wake up hungry... have breakfast, i'm hungry two hours later... have lunch, hungry two hours later... have dinner, go to bed hungry... Sucks. 

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RE: Avoidance Of Side Effects? - 4/3/2008 6:04:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		Is there a way through repetition that you can condtion your mom out of doing that?
She may not hear it the frst time or the 20th...
but let her know that it is really important to you that she not do that?

Also...it is possible that if the Lyrica is working...you may be able to be a bit more physically active...build some muscle mass slowly, which will help keep the "bad weight" off.
Try to stick to whole grains, more veggies and fruit...plan so that if you MUST have something now it is something healthy.

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RE: Avoidance Of Side Effects? - 4/3/2008 6:25:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks.Joanie, I do that as well. I track what and when I eat but wow I wake up starving now lol. There is no insurance so unfortunately using a nutritionist or dietician is out of the picture. petdave yup. I am always hungry now and I'm totally not used to that. I even wake up in the middle of the night hungry! Bah. angelika :)  There is simply no way to avoid the fat pinch hug or comments. She has had major issues my entire life, I think she fears fat=out of control. Even though I understand it is her problem, it still hurts my feelings to get the comments from her. Last summer when I was severely underweight she was so pleased, she took me on shopping sprees and spent time with me. Now that I am back to being pudgy there is a wall between us. I am glad however that I didn't get her total obsession. While not liking being the size 14 that I am, I can mostly deal with it w/o self hatred. (but um yes, i do want to be that size 4 that my mother finally loved)  My hope indeed is to become strong enough for activity and that will make all the difference. Right now I have 2 hours a day where I can do things, once that increases I will be able to expend energy and burn calories. Jeez I can't wait for that part and I hope strongly that it happens. I want to swim again, I want to go for walks..cut my own wood..mow my lawn. All that normal stuff. Even doing laundry! Thanks ya guys. Being able to get support from people (that would be all of you) rocks.

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RE: Avoidance Of Side Effects? - 4/3/2008 9:04:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Camille,

I dont know if it will help, but if you can condition yourself to the 5 small meal a day plan, it may ease things a bit for you.  That is what I did when I started on the Lyrica.  Im on it for my neuropathy, and the medicine and 5 meals has worked well for me.

The other thing I can suggest is if you have to snack, which I find unavoidable, do it on stuff that wont pack on the pounds.  I, thankfully, love veggies and fruit so I keep a fridge stocked with chopped up carrots and cucumbers and tomatoes and apples and oranges and bananas and grapes. . . Mmmm.  Also, I have a recipe for a smoothie that is mostly ice and fruit witha little bit of lowfat yogurt and some protein to help ease the hunger craving.  Email me if youd like it. 

The only thing you have to watch with the fruit is the conversion of the natural sugar into fat.  I cant do alot of exercising due to other health issues, but I find doing the 5 small meals a day with a couple of snacks when Im feening plus a 30 minute walk every evening keeps me pretty balanced.  Im still not as small as I would like to be, but Im pretty okay with me. 

Hope that helps a bit hun and if you ever need an ear to bend about health issues, let me know!

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RE: Avoidance Of Side Effects? - 4/3/2008 9:35:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks under. Or can I call you thumb? So far I am impressed with Lyrica, I hope it keeps working. Jeez it would be beyond fantastic to be able to do stuff again, especially with the warm weather coming up.

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RE: Avoidance Of Side Effects? - 4/3/2008 10:27:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		Camille,

God bless her...your mom is not helping the situation. Perhaps a frank talk with her (Damnit Mom...knock that shit off) will work.

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RE: Avoidance Of Side Effects? - 4/3/2008 11:24:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		I hope you don't mind me jumping on your thread Camille.  I have recently started taking Fluoxetene and one side affect is nausea.  Ive felt so ill for the past 5 days I am barely eating anything and keep feeling like I am about to throw up but never do.  The dr said it would wear off after ten days.  Does anyone have a good cure for that? Ive got to increase my dosage another 2 times till I am where I am meant to be and I daren't if this is gonna keep happening.

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RE: Avoidance Of Side Effects? - 4/3/2008 12:54:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		i've noticed that the medication i'm on is working too... but again, the side affect... i get horrible hunger attacks! Even when i feel full, i'll feel that edge of hunger. Sheesh, it's like i'm pregnant again! But anyway, i've put on some weight which has thankfully gotten me back to a healthy weight. But now, i'd like to keep where i'm at. i do eat alot of healthy food, but let's face it, i'm not counting callories or watching my diet. i try to do something at least three times a week to burn extra callories (like if i'm laying on the couch watching tv, i'll do easy leg lifts or something). And i've found that sometimes i can fend off the hunger by drinking extra fluids. No, not sugar drinks like soda. i mean things like tea or gatorade. Even milk sometimes does it, but that's not much different than actually snatching up food.

As far as your mom is concerned, i guess i don't quite understand why she would do that. i'd think she'd be understanding of what you're going through, and it's not like you're too big to fit through the door. my family has judged me all my life on other matters, so i can understand being insecure or self conscious about it. But i'm learning to not care what they think, thanks to the support of my Owner. And His opinion carries more weight than theirs! Or even my own sometimes...

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RE: Avoidance Of Side Effects? - 4/3/2008 1:00:11 PM   
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Camille,

God bless her...your mom is not helping the situation. Perhaps a frank talk with her (Damnit Mom...knock that shit off) will work.



If all else fails, try pinching HER every time you hug her. Put the shoe on the other foot, dammit, and see how she likes it. Or even pick up a used copy of (there must be one) a paperback copy of something like "the life & death of Karen Carpenter" to rent her a clue about how she is teaching eating disorders.

Bleah! Compliments generally have positive effects. Criticisms usually produce NEGATIVE effects. Wish the human race would learn that.

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RE: Avoidance Of Side Effects? - 4/3/2008 1:20:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Aw canupleaseme I'm sorry to hear about the nausea, yuck. Have you tried ginger? I take a big slice of fresh ginger and pour boiling water over that. Add a bit of honey and yum. Ginger is really good for nausea.I hope it ends soon.

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RE: Avoidance Of Side Effects? - 4/3/2008 1:25:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: canupleaseme

I hope you don't mind me jumping on your thread Camille.  I have recently started taking Fluoxetene and one side affect is nausea.  Ive felt so ill for the past 5 days I am barely eating anything and keep feeling like I am about to throw up but never do.  The dr said it would wear off after ten days.  Does anyone have a good cure for that? Ive got to increase my dosage another 2 times till I am where I am meant to be and I daren't if this is gonna keep happening.


Pregnancy tip... maybe it will help you. i somehow discovered when i was pregnant that if i was nausious, putting some ice on my stomache eased the sensation. You don't want to keep it there for too long, and never direct ice against your skin, but even today if i'm feeling sick to my stomache, it often times does the trick!

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RE: Avoidance Of Side Effects? - 4/3/2008 4:38:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Tell your mother that your weight is not a topic for discussion. That it is a side effect of medication and you will not tolerate her checking it, saying anything about it, gossiping about it etc. And hang up if she says something on the phone, turn around and walk right back out the door if she does it in person. Ask her if she would rather you be a heavy healthy person or the skinniest corpse around? Because this is a health issue.

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RE: Avoidance Of Side Effects? - 4/3/2008 9:51:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Have you ever considered Naturopathic Medicine? 

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RE: Avoidance Of Side Effects? - 4/4/2008 5:10:31 AM   
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There is simply no way to avoid the fat pinch hug or comments. She has had major issues my entire life, I think she fears fat=out of control. Even though I understand it is her problem, it still hurts my feelings to get the comments from her. Last summer when I was severely underweight she was so pleased, she took me on shopping sprees and spent time with me. Now that I am back to being pudgy there is a wall between us.


And this really isn't acceptable.    Have you tried behavior shaping, if she won't listed to a simple request for courtesy? If there's anything in particular that annoys her, do it whenever she pinches you or starts in about your weight... might be able to get her to stop without realizing she's doing it. Either that, or bite her, and tell her all the talk makes you hungry

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RE: Avoidance Of Side Effects? - 4/4/2008 9:26:50 PM   
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I swear I am always hungry now and it drives me nuts. I refuse to eat between meals, I've cut my food intake but I still worry that it is going to add pounds and pounds onto me


Rather than refusing to eat between meals, turn your 3 meals into 5 to 6 small meals that you eat every three to four hours apart. This will help your matabolism in keeping the food you eat be burned so none of it can turn into fat.

My snacks are usually always a hand full of mixed nuts or serving of beef jerky.

Not everyone can keep to a low card diet and function well. However, I will suggest for you to cut out carbs after you've eaten your breakfast, snack, and lunch. Keep everthing after lunch to be dedicated to all protien.  



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RE: Avoidance Of Side Effects? - 4/7/2008 10:32:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Its not all about how "much" you eat..........  as to "What" you eat.............  many "healthy" people can eat 6 small meals a day...........  it just depends On "what" they eat.........................You can email me personally any time..............  am a C.N.A, LPN, and hopefully soon to be......... Personal Trainer.........

..........  also have been on Before...........  and had personal friends on "meds" before...........  of ALL types.................  so .......  just email me.........................   =)



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