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lilabbotsfordgrl -> RE: what do you consider a 'fake' sub? (4/6/2008 2:57:01 PM)

I think it's up to YOU to decide what to do.  If you're into her and want to give her money, do it.  If you're not, don't.  Use your own feelings on the issue to determine your course of action.  If you feel submissive to her (hard to imagine after a couple chats, but whatever) and sending someone your money is how you feel you can show it to her, then why not?

Myself, I think there's way too much scamming and financial abuse going on around here, but that's just my personal opinion.




Level -> RE: what do you consider a 'fake' sub? (4/6/2008 3:00:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: curiousub88

Thought i'd ask this question and see how people answer. Just about a half hour ago i got called a fake. I had exchanged emails with a dom for the past few days, she starting the conversation and saying how much fun she'd have with me, followed by me trying to be nice and asking if there was anything i could do and she replied a webcam or phone chat, which would cost me. Of course not knowing her, i said i would prefer to learn more about her before we do these sessions, to gain trust, which followed by her calling me a fake. Is it wrong for a sub to want to learn about a dom before they do an online session? I didn't mean to sound like a tease, by inquiring about the session and then saying i'd like to wait on it. I haven't had any experience in BDSM, so i am nervous, but wanting to give myself to someone. I am a virgin as well, and do have a fear of people just wanting me to take that from me rather than enjoying myself for who i am. I know that isn't really applicable to online stuff, but just something to mention about my slowness of dipping into this lifestyle. It seems some doms think you should trust them right away and do whatever they say while some will be friendly in the beginning to gain trust and then turning into a D/S relationship. That is how it was with my master (only online master though, he just stopped logging online and haven't talked to him for 3 months; that would sound more like a fake to me). So i know i said a lot, but i'll recap my main questions. Do i sound like a fake? Is it possible to be a fake without knowing it? What do fakes do that makes them so?


Did you call her a money-grubbing whore?
 
I don't have a problem with pay-for-play, but if she's going to call you names.......




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: what do you consider a 'fake' sub? (4/6/2008 3:00:17 PM)

Remember you aren't a "true sub" until you've been called fake at least five times.




SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: what do you consider a 'fake' sub? (4/6/2008 3:02:41 PM)

I offer this service of induction where I call people fake five times for a small fee. It is a harsh training programme but I’ve had a lot of success.[8|]




Level -> RE: what do you consider a 'fake' sub? (4/6/2008 3:02:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Remember you aren't a "true sub" until you've been called fake at least five times.


[:D]




SL4V3M4YB3 -> RE: what do you consider a 'fake' sub? (4/6/2008 3:06:19 PM)

Why is he asking a slave/sub what a fake slave/sub is they aren’t going to know.[8|]

and on that note see you next week wooossshhhh I'm gone.[:D]




curiousub88 -> RE: what do you consider a 'fake' sub? (4/6/2008 3:11:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Level

Did you call her a money-grubbing whore?
 
I don't have a problem with pay-for-play, but if she's going to call you names.......


Hehe, can't say i didn't think about it, but i don't like to be like that. I hate being angry, its the worst feeling in the world for me, and giving those kind of comebacks doesn't help : /. Just gotta forget about it.




camille65 -> RE: what do you consider a 'fake' sub? (4/6/2008 3:11:35 PM)

I am a true fake 
quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Remember you aren't a "true sub" until you've been called fake at least five times.
 because I've never been called fake so I can't be a true sub!




kiwisub12 -> RE: what do you consider a 'fake' sub? (4/6/2008 3:21:19 PM)

If you have to pay for the privilige of being on line with her then why not find a professional domme in your area? At least then you will be face to face.  On the other hand , if you wait and find a realtime domme, there is a good possibility that you won't have to pay anything at all for the privilige.

by the way - wanting to know more about someone isn't fake, it is very sensible, and should be commended. Anyone objecting isn't sane enough to play with.




lronitulstahp -> RE: what do you consider a 'fake' sub? (4/6/2008 3:33:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Remember you aren't a "true sub" until you've been called fake at least five times.
who me??? i'm true??? omg...i've been called fake at least 20 times...i must be an uber-sub...at the very least.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYb83KM4at4 i love this song...Sixteen Candles...Jake dancing with his girlfriend but looking at Molly Ringwald "Samantha" and being all 80's hot.....(sigh)




curiousub88 -> RE: what do you consider a 'fake' sub? (4/6/2008 3:40:16 PM)

i did find it a little odd, when she came to me first, and then asking for me to pay money even though i was offering to entertain her. But yeah, pro-dommes aren't my thing, i'm looking for more of a relationship, in whatever manner that is, as well as the fact pros seem more based around your desires rather than the desires of the domme.




DiurnalVampire -> RE: what do you consider a 'fake' sub? (4/6/2008 3:40:59 PM)

Hey camille.. you fake.
Woo, there I got to be the first

A fake issomeone who doesnt actually have any desire to submit, but wants to play the part of submissive to lead someone on. Outside of that, you are as rea as anyone else on here.

Most of the time, the term FAKE is tossed around to try and make you feel bad and want to do anything you an to prove you ARENT fake. It didnt work on you but I am sure it has for others.

Brush off and move on.

DV




Level -> RE: what do you consider a 'fake' sub? (4/6/2008 3:43:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: curiousub88

quote:

ORIGINAL: Level

Did you call her a money-grubbing whore?
 
I don't have a problem with pay-for-play, but if she's going to call you names.......


Hehe, can't say i didn't think about it, but i don't like to be like that. I hate being angry, its the worst feeling in the world for me, and giving those kind of comebacks doesn't help : /. Just gotta forget about it.


Good for you, and I mean that.
 
Are you a fake? If not, then do NOT let her, or anyone else, put those thoughts in your mind. Be true to yourself, and find those that support you.




Leatherist -> RE: what do you consider a 'fake' sub? (4/6/2008 5:45:46 PM)

It's more likely her that's the fake.

pot kettle black




kallisto -> RE: what do you consider a 'fake' sub? (4/6/2008 5:51:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Remember you aren't a "true sub" until you've been called fake at least five times.


Would someone please hurry and call me a fake five times so I can be a "true sub"?    [:)]




Poetryinpain -> RE: what do you consider a 'fake' sub? (4/6/2008 6:41:17 PM)

I'm well on my way to 'true' then. It's been three 'fake' calls so far.

You can't be fake if you are what you are and represent yourself truly. If you don't pretend to be what you aren't, you are not a fake.

So be yourself, and shrug off all those who call you 'fake.'

pip, closing in on true




nwcutie102 -> RE: what do you consider a 'fake' sub? (4/6/2008 7:26:10 PM)

i got called a fake also. recently. from a Dom who i have chatted with for 2 months online. we had a tiff, and he called me fake. it hurt at first, but.... i know what i am. a sub, not a slave.... never pretended to be what i am not. people get annoyed and spit that FAKE word out. sadly, i does sting, especially when you know your true self




Daddyslilpookie -> RE: what do you consider a 'fake' sub? (4/6/2008 8:42:33 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kallisto

quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Remember you aren't a "true sub" until you've been called fake at least five times.


Would someone please hurry and call me a fake five times so I can be a "true sub"?    [:)]


Raises hand real high and says me to please[sm=wave.gif]




xxblushesxx -> RE: what do you consider a 'fake' sub? (4/6/2008 8:42:55 PM)

OP; aside from whether you are 'true' or not, I would like to encourage you to get your psychology degree, as that will serve you well.
I wish you the best.
Please stay away from fakes and users; you probably know before asking if they are, but feel free to participate when you can.




Najakcharmer -> RE: what do you consider a 'fake' sub? (4/6/2008 8:55:19 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: curiousub88

Thought i'd ask this question and see how people answer. Just about a half hour ago i got called a fake. I had exchanged emails with a dom for the past few days, she starting the conversation and saying how much fun she'd have with me, followed by me trying to be nice and asking if there was anything i could do and she replied a webcam or phone chat, which would cost me. Of course not knowing her, i said i would prefer to learn more about her before we do these sessions, to gain trust, which followed by her calling me a fake. Is it wrong for a sub to want to learn about a dom before they do an online session?


No, it's sane and reasonable, and the mark of a mature and serious person who is not seeking instant and shallow fetish gratification with no actual interest in submitting to another person. 


quote:

i'll recap my main questions. Do i sound like a fake? Is it possible to be a fake without knowing it?


No. It's painfully obvious that you're the real person here; she's the fake.  As in, she just wants your money.  What you are is a novice, and that's okay.  I could toss out a few more adjectives to describe her behavior, but none of them would be particularly nice or constructive.  I'll just recommend you move right along the next time you hear something like "give me your money now, or else you're a fake".  Those types are really not worth your time unless you are specifically seeking a pro domme for a fair and honest transaction that is negotiated clearly up front. 




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