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UncleNasty -> RE: how to warn others/ deal with asshole Dom's in real time (4/21/2008 8:53:55 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LatexHer


First and foremost we recommend that you obtain the potential owners home and office phone numbers, as well as his/hers home address.



Geeze oh Pete, what a double standard. If a Dominant asked for this information from a potential sub or slave he would be given no end of grief on this site. The thread would stretch out for pages and pages and may never end.

That being said I give mine to anyone that wants it. I figure I'm listed in the phone book so literally BILLIONS of people already have access to it anyway.

Implicit in this double standard is that sub/slaves are the only people in the transactions or relationships that have something at risk or at stake. That isn't credible when viewed through a realistic lens - and it isn't legitimate.

To comment on references: I don't provide them. I won't engage with someone that has such a need for external proof of anothers trustworthiness. I want partners that are in touch with their own feelings enough to be able to discern for themselves whether they FEEL someone is trustworthy or not, and to be able to DETERMINE that for themselves. I want partners without trust issues so large as to need resumes and references. I want partners that are able to trust others. Not blindly so but reasonably so. Judge how you feel about me by interacting with me on the levels you're comfortable with.  

References (in my limited experience as I tend to move away from those that require them) are merely a first hoop to jump through, and jumping through hoops is an endless process (there are never enough to satisfy someone with this tendency), eventually leading to a catastrophic end and the one demanding said hoops be jumped through finally getting their favorite bad feeling - which was really the purpose anyway.

Uncle Nasty





themischievous1 -> RE: how to warn others/ deal with asshole Doms in realtime (4/22/2008 5:20:54 AM)

It's pretty much fact that if you get naked quickly in any kind of lifestyle, vanilla or otherwise, that you risk being considered a one nighter or even a quick piece of ass. In my opinion, the only solution to this problem is to take your time getting to know someone -- that is if you want to be sure that you are valued. It's rare that the kind of men who only want to use you and toss you away are going to put in the time involved to regularly "date" you if all they're wanting is the play or the sex. You may think it's playing the game (and it is) but there's no other way to handle this, unfortunately. There are too many users out here to just give yourself away to every single "Dom" that you think you can trust.

If you seriously want more than the casual for yourself then make yourself a priority. Get to know someone at length. Excercise self control. You don't have to submit to anyone until you are ready to. Don't offer your submission easily. A D/s relationship can be a very bonding experience. Why should just anyone be given such an experience with ease? Shouldn't time be taken to be sure that the person is worthy and has your best interests at heart? Shouldn't they be tested for disease and checked out thoroughly before you get intimate with them?

Things are absolutely no different just because it's BDSM. Know who you're dealing with and consider holding back until you know you have a keeper. Blind trust and giving yourself away, hoping someone is going to be trustworthy is only going to wind up with you continuing to be heartbroken, jaded, and bitter. Eventually you'll be burned out. No one is going to value you if you don't first value yourself.





subtee -> RE: how to warn others/ deal with asshole Dom's in real time (4/22/2008 8:14:21 AM)

Okay. U. Nasty, this will be long, a bit tedious and somewhat painful, however necessary. First I will have to ask for your fingerprints and a lock of your hair, to pee into a cup, bend over and "spread," touch your toes (why not), provide your SS# along with credit card account numbers and passwords. Just in case.

Next I will have to speak to your Mom and aunties. Mom isn't enough of a reference by herself as they tend to sugar coat their offsprings' foilables. Aunties know what's really going on (even though they usually blame the Mom). Also, the phone numbers of all previous girlfriends. Not subs. Subs aren't gonna tell me jack that you don't want me to know.

Please provide report cards, K-12. Any fewer than a dozen "is a pleasure to have in class" will not be acceptable.

I will need to access your mental health. Please answer the following:

I can touch my toes (Y/N)

I personalize my vehicle with a name. (Y/N) If yes, please provide the name.

The last time I played a game of touch football was...

I remember where I was when Pee Wee Herman got arrested for wanking off in a movie theater. (Y/N)

I have purchased an item or items from an infomercial (Y/N)

I would love to be the next president of the U.S. (Y/N)

I drink coffee with more than three adjectives in its name (Y/N)

I have had flowery-patterned furniture. On purpose. (Y/N)

I have eaten some form of a rodent in my life. (Y/N)

*NYSNC or Backstreet Boys (yes, you have to pick one)
 
Name three things in close proximity to your person at this moment.
 
"Prankster" is a descripter many would assign to me. (Y/N)
 
I would rather ________ than scene with Hillary Clinton.
 
This concludes "Phase I" of your interview. While we believe all Dom applicants are "winners," you will be notified if you have scored high enough to proceed. Thank you.
 
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GreedyTop -> RE: how to warn others/ deal with asshole Dom's in real time (4/22/2008 8:19:11 AM)

*SNICKERsnortsnicker*




OmegaG -> RE: how to warn others/ deal with asshole Dom's in real time (4/22/2008 8:48:39 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: juicy22

When they give your their name and exactly where they live...Do "a Zabasearch."  My name is on there with the addresses I have had in the last 20 years.  My numbers where all unlisted too and it has my name, address and phone number!.  Great way to check someone out.  Chit...Might even have the husband or wives name on there!


Just ran me, the information is outdated.




GreedyTop -> RE: how to warn others/ deal with asshole Dom's in real time (4/22/2008 9:29:34 AM)

wow.. I found 4 listings for myself (and at least two other people whose first, last and middle initial are the same as mine).




stella41b -> RE: how to warn others/ deal with asshole Doms in realtime (4/22/2008 9:57:33 AM)

In response to the OP there's alternative methods...

1. Walk up and down busy city centre streets carrying a sign which says 'DON'T MEET ASSHOLE DOMS'

2. Go to your local supermarket with a megaphone at busy periods and repeatedly shout 'Don't meet asshole Doms'.

3. Using scaffolding and white emulsion paint in the early hours of the morning paint 'DON'T MEET ASSHOLE DOMS' across the parapets of bridges over dual carriageways. Don't forget to bring a friend and both wear hard hats and luminous green jackets or the police might get suspicious. Bring plenty of traffic cones too.

4. Get in touch with your local radio station and arrange an interview with drive time radio show hosts about the perils of meeting asshole Doms.

5. Start your own political party - AAA Americans Against Assholes and run for President. Judging by the present bunch of candidates, you have a strong chance of winning.

6. Er.. that's it.




GreedyTop -> RE: how to warn others/ deal with asshole Doms in realtime (4/22/2008 10:16:26 AM)

*snort*

I'd only add to Stella's post.. if you think you have enough traffic cones, triple that number...




Prinsexx -> RE: how to warn others/ deal with asshole Dom's in real time (4/22/2008 10:22:35 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: subtee

Okay. U. Nasty, this will be long, a bit tedious and somewhat painful, however necessary. First I will have to ask for your fingerprints and a lock of your hair, to pee into a cup, bend over and "spread," touch your toes (why not), provide your SS# along with credit card account numbers and passwords. Just in case.

Next I will have to speak to your Mom and aunties. Mom isn't enough of a reference by herself as they tend to sugar coat their offsprings' foilables. Aunties know what's really going on (even though they usually blame the Mom). Also, the phone numbers of all previous girlfriends. Not subs. Subs aren't gonna tell me jack that you don't want me to know.

Please provide report cards, K-12. Any fewer than a dozen "is a pleasure to have in class" will not be acceptable.

I will need to access your mental health. Please answer the following:

I can touch my toes (Y/N)

I personalize my vehicle with a name. (Y/N) If yes, please provide the name.

The last time I played a game of touch football was...

I remember where I was when Pee Wee Herman got arrested for wanking off in a movie theater. (Y/N)

I have purchased an item or items from an infomercial (Y/N)

I would love to be the next president of the U.S. (Y/N)

I drink coffee with more than three adjectives in its name (Y/N)

I have had flowery-patterned furniture. On purpose. (Y/N)

I have eaten some form of a rodent in my life. (Y/N)

*NYSNC or Backstreet Boys (yes, you have to pick one)
 
Name three things in close proximity to your person at this moment.
 
"Prankster" is a descripter many would assign to me. (Y/N)
 
I would rather ________ than scene with Hillary Clinton.
 
This concludes "Phase I" of your interview. While we believe all Dom applicants are "winners," you will be notified if you have scored high enough to proceed. Thank you.
 
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I WILL provide the UK equivalent....

mooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





Prinsexx -> RE: how to warn others/ deal with asshole Dom's in real time (4/22/2008 10:27:47 AM)

I am indebted to Simply Michael for the UBER-DIM DOM type.....(please elucidate Michael) Also any contributions on TROLL DOM  from Chelle truly appreciated........ but for now these are what I am always in the process off avoiding. If you fall into ANY other category then please apply to me......
What kind of Dom are you?  
THE HIPPIE DOM
Will demand absolute trust yet want to spend endless hours debating what trust is until his and your boundaries become diffused in the candlelight. Prefers whackjobs to blow jobs. Has differential beat so demands 27/4 instead of 24/7 as time shifts in the haze of previously illegal substances use. Prefers his hair to be longer than his subs’ so will expect you to be shaven. Is out of his freakin mind so don’t expect a serious response to an application. An ability to endure loud music and produce the food when its munchie time would be an advantage.

THE "BEEN DOING THIS FOREVER" VASTLY EXPERIENCED DOM looking for lesser beings, on whom to bestow virtually limitless wealth of BDSM knowledge. The 'submit your application and find out if you have sufficient intellect and wisdom, to be considered for such an important position' profile approach.
THE DUNGEON MASTER SUPREMELY SADISTIC DOM PROFILE seeking caged slave, taken out only to be used for sadistic pleasure. The 'Your tears will only make me laugh' approach. Please only "real" pain sluts need apply.
THE ESOTERIC MYSTICAL NEW AGE DOM PROFILE Explore the wonders of the cosmos with him, through a metaphysical application of the Dom/sub dynamic  Please only financially solvent subs and slaves apply, as the pursuit of material wealth, is eshewed in favour of a metaphysical calling.
THE EXCRUCIATINGLY WEALTHY POWER DOM PROFILE Stunningly wealthy Dom seeking additions to his ever growing stable of subs and slaves. Even subs will have servants, just to help you serve his needs. You should be young, slim, attractive and brandable as appearances are very important in his world and you will be displayed as a trophy.
THE KING DOM PROFILE Kneel when you read this bitch. You will obey! recognise a real Master when you are in His presence, or even when you are not. Even though you are unworthy of attention, he is currently taking applications from worthless sluts and only real ass licking sluts should apply.
THE KNOW ALL, NEVER BEEN WRONG ABOUT ANYTHING UBER DOM PROFILE Some may think of him as pedantic overbearing know it all, and may warn him to leave the Forum or Moderte his posts but this doesn't concern him as he  never actually paid attention to any other opinion than his own. Don't waste time applying.
THE SENSITIVE UNDERSTANDING GUY DOM PROFILE Looking for a submissive life partner who will reward and understand sensitivity with loyalty and commitment. Wants to dominate you on a partnership basis, although there is democracy within the dynamic and if you tend to fall in love please contact him.
WHITE KNIGHT CELTIC LORD: where he goes you will follow, he is the Alpha and you arethe Omega. Looking for The One. He is polyamorous but you must be single and hopefully a virgin. Apply if you need to be saved.
THE BARBARIAN DOM Will believe his lady should be captured, cherished, ravished, used to calm his sadistic barbarian urges, moderate his barbarian qualities with love and devotion, and even spend time grunting. He will grunt back that he is alone but is likely to have a secret stash of other slaves hidden in the back of the cave. Apply by sneaking into his cave before nightfall and making tribal pictures on the walls in bodily fluids. That will ensure he follows your trail at daybreak.
THE THOROUGHLY-ENGLISH DOM Likely to be a mature gentleman looking primarily to deliver ‘English’ lessons, that is a jolly good spank, or perhaps a slipper (or two), Will use other forms of discipline only as his need arises. Prefers slimmish younger women for occasional play or on a regular basis. Could be trapped in an unhappy marriage (as forced to walk the dog) and the prohibitive cost school fees and mortgage make it impossible to get divorced. Social status is of paramount importance and although he admittedly finds it somewhat difficult to delegate in the workplace he is absolutely realized in his mastery. Refers to you as his property: owned, rented or attached.  
CHIRO DOM...a sub class of DOCTOR DOM.....This Dom transfers some professional understanding or interest in medicine into his bdsm practice. Expert in the use of enema, scalpels and 'internals' will all take place within the confidentiality of a clinical setting. Often assisted by a 'nurse'. His waiting list may be long but worth the wait. Home visits are made by special arrangement. Pee-hole, blood-letting, deep muscle massage and TNS sluts will receive immediate attention. As nurse usually accompanies him bi, or bi-curious applications will go to the top of the list.   THE PLACEBO DOM   This Dom is indistinguishable from the real thing. Subs will believe thay have met a man that will be a wonderful Dom/Master, a man that sounds as if he can fulfill all of their wants, needs and desires. He has me "under consideration" and we shall soon meet. However his power lies in his ability to ritualise and manipulate and he controls solely on the basis of endless proposals and propositions as opposed to suggestions (for this see Hypno Dom). Sometimes this has non-specific effects: although submissives feel their experience altered in some way, they remain in anticipation, under consideration or expectation that they will eventually be collared. The effect is usually short-lived but is contra-indicated as lasting for years, usually after many years in suspension, in corner time or enduring prolonged training periods submissives will eventually turn to the real thing.
 
 




chellekitty -> RE: how to warn others/ deal with asshole Dom's in real time (4/22/2008 10:58:37 AM)

TROLL DOM: Wikipedia refers to an internet troll as "someone who posts controversial and usually irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community," this is further personified in a troll dom when said troll dom posts messages to make themself sound more important and knowledgeable even though what they posted has nothing to do with what is being discussed.  Also much like a serial bully a troll dom is is quick to belittle, undermine, denigrate and discredit anyone who calls, attempts to call, or might call the troll dom to account.  These are actually highly volatile creatures, despite their attempts to look "warm and fuzzy" and convince you that all they want to do is make the world a better place.




Prinsexx -> RE: how to warn others/ deal with asshole Dom's in real time (4/22/2008 11:03:10 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: chellekitty

TROLL DOM: Wikipedia refers to an internet troll as "someone who posts controversial and usually irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community," this is further personified in a troll dom when said troll dom posts messages to make themself sound more important and knowledgeable even though what they posted has nothing to do with what is being discussed.  Also much like a serial bully a troll dom is is quick to belittle, undermine, denigrate and discredit anyone who calls, attempts to call, or might call the troll dom to account.  These are actually highly volatile creatures, despite their attempts to look "warm and fuzzy" and convince you that all they want to do is make the world a better place.


That and hot lemon and honey in my tea has truly put me into recovery.........
the recovery position........
BRAVA Chelle




masterdstar -> RE: how to warn others/ deal with asshole Doms in realtime (4/24/2008 12:33:30 PM)

Treat them the same way you have to treat asshole subs.
:  -)

Enjoy your wonder-filled day




DelilahDeb -> RE: how to warn others/ deal with asshole Doms in realtime (4/24/2008 1:15:12 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

the only issue I take here is the "get recommendations" thing. that's only worthwhile if the recommendations come from someone who the person asking actually trusts/respects. Any ol' Joe Blow can give names and numbers.. but if I don;t know the person saying "oh yes he's WONDERFUL", why should I trust their judgement?

just sayin'...........


OP--
I must agree with GreedyTop, but for a different reason...most chudwas (CHDWs, clueless hetboy dom-wannabes) are more than tech-aware enough to set up female profiles and freemail accounts from which such "recommendations" could be supplied. A reference is only as good as its source, and unless you personally know the source, such are at best iffy.

That said...please, play safe. And safer. If your intuition is proving as unreliable as you describe, you need to take more time and more safe-zone time getting to know a prospective dome face to face. Even when I'm meeting prospective Wicca wannabes as teacher and student, I set a coffee shop or other public place for a first-meeting. Time enough to move on from there with things like my home address after we have "sniffed tails" and decided that neither of us looks like an axe murderer or a wild-eyed Jack Nickolson clone. Doesn't mean we're right, just eliminates the first and second layers of posers and agenda-wavers. And that is only when our proposed activities include spiritual teaching and guided meditations and the possiblity of talking about such matters as human fertility rites.

It hurts to be betrayed, in large or small, so consider a hug offered. I'm no different; I was stood up at a first meet two das ago. (Grrrrrr.) Except that my only risk was to my budget...I had to pay for my own soda when I gave up on the guy after half an hour. And I got a wry smile from the waitress as compensation.

Delilah Deb




EbonyPhoenix68 -> RE: how to warn others/ deal with asshole Dom's in real time (4/24/2008 1:21:35 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

I am indebted to Simply Michael for the UBER-DIM DOM type.....(please elucidate Michael) Also any contributions on TROLL DOM  from Chelle truly appreciated........ but for now these are what I am always in the process off avoiding. If you fall into ANY other category then please apply to me......
What kind of Dom are you?  
THE HIPPIE DOM
Will demand absolute trust yet want to spend endless hours debating what trust is until his and your boundaries become diffused in the candlelight. Prefers whackjobs to blow jobs. Has differential beat so demands 27/4 instead of 24/7 as time shifts in the haze of previously illegal substances use. Prefers his hair to be longer than his subs’ so will expect you to be shaven. Is out of his freakin mind so don’t expect a serious response to an application. An ability to endure loud music and produce the food when its munchie time would be an advantage.

THE "BEEN DOING THIS FOREVER" VASTLY EXPERIENCED DOM looking for lesser beings, on whom to bestow virtually limitless wealth of BDSM knowledge. The 'submit your application and find out if you have sufficient intellect and wisdom, to be considered for such an important position' profile approach.
THE DUNGEON MASTER SUPREMELY SADISTIC DOM PROFILE seeking caged slave, taken out only to be used for sadistic pleasure. The 'Your tears will only make me laugh' approach. Please only "real" pain sluts need apply.
THE ESOTERIC MYSTICAL NEW AGE DOM PROFILE Explore the wonders of the cosmos with him, through a metaphysical application of the Dom/sub dynamic  Please only financially solvent subs and slaves apply, as the pursuit of material wealth, is eshewed in favour of a metaphysical calling.
THE EXCRUCIATINGLY WEALTHY POWER DOM PROFILE Stunningly wealthy Dom seeking additions to his ever growing stable of subs and slaves. Even subs will have servants, just to help you serve his needs. You should be young, slim, attractive and brandable as appearances are very important in his world and you will be displayed as a trophy.
THE KING DOM PROFILE Kneel when you read this bitch. You will obey! recognise a real Master when you are in His presence, or even when you are not. Even though you are unworthy of attention, he is currently taking applications from worthless sluts and only real ass licking sluts should apply.
THE KNOW ALL, NEVER BEEN WRONG ABOUT ANYTHING UBER DOM PROFILE Some may think of him as pedantic overbearing know it all, and may warn him to leave the Forum or Moderte his posts but this doesn't concern him as he  never actually paid attention to any other opinion than his own. Don't waste time applying.
THE SENSITIVE UNDERSTANDING GUY DOM PROFILE Looking for a submissive life partner who will reward and understand sensitivity with loyalty and commitment. Wants to dominate you on a partnership basis, although there is democracy within the dynamic and if you tend to fall in love please contact him.
WHITE KNIGHT CELTIC LORD: where he goes you will follow, he is the Alpha and you arethe Omega. Looking for The One. He is polyamorous but you must be single and hopefully a virgin. Apply if you need to be saved.
THE BARBARIAN DOM Will believe his lady should be captured, cherished, ravished, used to calm his sadistic barbarian urges, moderate his barbarian qualities with love and devotion, and even spend time grunting. He will grunt back that he is alone but is likely to have a secret stash of other slaves hidden in the back of the cave. Apply by sneaking into his cave before nightfall and making tribal pictures on the walls in bodily fluids. That will ensure he follows your trail at daybreak.
THE THOROUGHLY-ENGLISH DOM Likely to be a mature gentleman looking primarily to deliver ‘English’ lessons, that is a jolly good spank, or perhaps a slipper (or two), Will use other forms of discipline only as his need arises. Prefers slimmish younger women for occasional play or on a regular basis. Could be trapped in an unhappy marriage (as forced to walk the dog) and the prohibitive cost school fees and mortgage make it impossible to get divorced. Social status is of paramount importance and although he admittedly finds it somewhat difficult to delegate in the workplace he is absolutely realized in his mastery. Refers to you as his property: owned, rented or attached.  
CHIRO DOM...a sub class of DOCTOR DOM.....This Dom transfers some professional understanding or interest in medicine into his bdsm practice. Expert in the use of enema, scalpels and 'internals' will all take place within the confidentiality of a clinical setting. Often assisted by a 'nurse'. His waiting list may be long but worth the wait. Home visits are made by special arrangement. Pee-hole, blood-letting, deep muscle massage and TNS sluts will receive immediate attention. As nurse usually accompanies him bi, or bi-curious applications will go to the top of the list.   THE PLACEBO DOM   This Dom is indistinguishable from the real thing. Subs will believe thay have met a man that will be a wonderful Dom/Master, a man that sounds as if he can fulfill all of their wants, needs and desires. He has me "under consideration" and we shall soon meet. However his power lies in his ability to ritualise and manipulate and he controls solely on the basis of endless proposals and propositions as opposed to suggestions (for this see Hypno Dom). Sometimes this has non-specific effects: although submissives feel their experience altered in some way, they remain in anticipation, under consideration or expectation that they will eventually be collared. The effect is usually short-lived but is contra-indicated as lasting for years, usually after many years in suspension, in corner time or enduring prolonged training periods submissives will eventually turn to the real thing.
 

 
You left out one other type of Dom/me, that being the Self-Centered, Lying, Rumor Spreading, Dicktatorial (yes, I purposely misspelled it) Dom who doesn't practice Safe, Sane and Consensual play, which in and of itself is self-explanatory. Sadly, I encountered two of these jerks a couple months ago, but thankfully, they are out of my realm for good.




akisha -> RE: how to warn others/ deal with asshole Dom's in real time (4/24/2008 1:22:08 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: juicy22

When they give your their name and exactly where they live...Do "a Zabasearch."  My name is on there with the addresses I have had in the last 20 years.  My numbers where all unlisted too and it has my name, address and phone number!.  Great way to check someone out.  Chit...Might even have the husband or wives name on there!



Awwww bummer. Zabasearch does not work for Canada [&o]




GreedyTop -> RE: how to warn others/ deal with asshole Doms in realtime (4/24/2008 4:42:24 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DelilahDeb


quote:

ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

the only issue I take here is the "get recommendations" thing. that's only worthwhile if the recommendations come from someone who the person asking actually trusts/respects. Any ol' Joe Blow can give names and numbers.. but if I don;t know the person saying "oh yes he's WONDERFUL", why should I trust their judgement?

just sayin'...........


OP--
I must agree with GreedyTop, but for a different reason...most chudwas (CHDWs, clueless hetboy dom-wannabes) are more than tech-aware enough to set up female profiles and freemail accounts from which such "recommendations" could be supplied. A reference is only as good as its source, and unless you personally know the source, such are at best iffy.

That said...please, play safe. And safer. If your intuition is proving as unreliable as you describe, you need to take more time and more safe-zone time getting to know a prospective dome face to face. Even when I'm meeting prospective Wicca wannabes as teacher and student, I set a coffee shop or other public place for a first-meeting. Time enough to move on from there with things like my home address after we have "sniffed tails" and decided that neither of us looks like an axe murderer or a wild-eyed Jack Nickolson clone. Doesn't mean we're right, just eliminates the first and second layers of posers and agenda-wavers. And that is only when our proposed activities include spiritual teaching and guided meditations and the possiblity of talking about such matters as human fertility rites.

It hurts to be betrayed, in large or small, so consider a hug offered. I'm no different; I was stood up at a first meet two das ago. (Grrrrrr.) Except that my only risk was to my budget...I had to pay for my own soda when I gave up on the guy after half an hour. And I got a wry smile from the waitress as compensation.

Delilah Deb


Um, I thought that's what I said *grin* 




LotusSong -> RE: how to warn others/ deal with asshole Doms in realtime (4/24/2008 4:52:59 PM)

Look for the common denominator in your relationships that end up this way.. unfortunately.. it's you.  Reflect on what the warning signs were and why you keep missing them...  just a thought.




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