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adrian28 -> RE: Seriously, when did this become a joke? (4/14/2008 9:39:39 PM)

Is it a theme now that, when I check the forums someone else is using stereotypes and generalizations. Seriously lady, get over yourself. I find conceit like this vulgar.




hopelessfool -> RE: Seriously, when did this become a joke? (4/14/2008 9:42:53 PM)

I guess my post of her showing herself in a sexual or Come hither way was over looked and now that shes been caught as a tease doesnt like it... >.< I need a cookie




NakedOnMyChain -> RE: Seriously, when did this become a joke? (4/14/2008 9:43:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: missbratly

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ORIGINAL: katsmeow

So, I don't post a lot, but something is really bothering me more and more on here. The more I read e-mail, the more people just want 'play.' Is it impossible to keep your morals in tact and still be in this lifestyle?
 
I talked to someone today who wrote a nasty journal entry about me, because I'm apparently prude. Just because I don't want to take my clothes off and play with a stranger I just met? I call that being safe... But really, my point of view on this is, play being like a vanilla second date, the initial one is a nice dinner, and second one is bringing over edible body paint and licking it off of one another's nude bodies with no emotional connection. I don't deny that there are exceptions to this, but really, is it that common?
 
What happened to the days when people were sane, and didn't want girls that fucked everything with legs?  =[


I read this, and then I read the flood of posts that followed it claiming that there was nothing wrong with being a bunch of whores, and I despaired.

Unfortunately, it would appear that being submissive is too often confused with being a slut. As to all those who say "oh what's so wrong with enjoying sex?" Well, nothing, but there are some of us who enjoy it more when it is with someone who cares about us. The problem with fucking a lot of people is that you can hardly cliam that you care about them or vice versa.

Katsmeow, you're right. Being on this site does often mean that the males treat you as if you were a free whore. Unfortunately, thats because a great deal of the women here are free whores. They like it, it apparently works for them (though to be honest, with the amount of mental illness reported amongst people here, I doubt that it is actually all that good or safe, but hey, they're grown ups, if they want to allow their bodies to be used by all and sundry, its their funeral).

There's nothing wrong with having one's own moral code, and there's nothing wrong with desiring to be treated in a fashion that is respectful and doesn't assume that you're a cheap damaged slut looking for a fix of sexual affection. 

Unfortunately, being here means being exposed to both the small percentage of men who value submissives as people with feelings, and the wider horny majority who just want to dump their cum in you.



Are you really a bigot?  Or do you just play one on Collarme?




adrian28 -> RE: Seriously, when did this become a joke? (4/14/2008 9:44:21 PM)

[sm=candles.gif]




CalifChick -> RE: Seriously, when did this become a joke? (4/14/2008 9:47:35 PM)

And it was her very first post. Imagine that.

Cali




GreedyTop -> RE: Seriously, when did this become a joke? (4/14/2008 9:48:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: domiguy

I look down on people all of the time....I rarely break a sweat...I used to think that I accomplished something...Anymore, if my snobbiness and and lack of regard for others results in anything less than a suicide attempt I am left feeling rather numb and empty.

It's hard to recapture the rush of your first suicide attempt....Now I need a group of biatches to try and off themselves to even begin to feel any pleasure....That is the danger in becoming addicted to being an A-hole...You just can never get enough.

Help me.


Domi... have I mentioned I adore you??




Lynnxz -> RE: Seriously, when did this become a joke? (4/14/2008 9:49:56 PM)

I am personally terrified of std's, so I can't do what I'd like to without freaking out and running off to Planned Parenthood to check for everything. It's a little irrational, but o well- I seem to do better when I limit myself to just nonsexual bdsm things when I play... and I play with a lot of people, haha.

There's no problem with setting a limit for yourself in my opinion, you just shouldn't force it on everyone else.




Poetryinpain -> RE: Seriously, when did this become a joke? (4/14/2008 9:57:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: domiguy
I look down on people all of the time....I rarely break a sweat...I used to think that I accomplished something...Anymore, if my snobbiness and and lack of regard for others results in anything less than a suicide attempt I am left feeling rather numb and empty.

Snob frenzy?

pip, it's too late to be doing this; forgive me, please




themischievous1 -> RE: Seriously, when did this become a joke? (4/14/2008 11:35:04 PM)

MissBratly said:
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I read this, and then I read the flood of posts that followed it claiming that there was nothing wrong with being a bunch of whores, and I despaired.

Unfortunately, it would appear that being submissive is too often confused with being a slut. As to all those who say "oh what's so wrong with enjoying sex?" Well, nothing, but there are some of us who enjoy it more when it is with someone who cares about us. The problem with fucking a lot of people is that you can hardly cliam that you care about them or vice versa.

Katsmeow, you're right. Being on this site does often mean that the males treat you as if you were a free whore. Unfortunately, thats because a great deal of the women here are free whores. They like it, it apparently works for them (though to be honest, with the amount of mental illness reported amongst people here, I doubt that it is actually all that good or safe, but hey, they're grown ups, if they want to allow their bodies to be used by all and sundry, its their funeral).

There's nothing wrong with having one's own moral code, and there's nothing wrong with desiring to be treated in a fashion that is respectful and doesn't assume that you're a cheap damaged slut looking for a fix of sexual affection. 

Unfortunately, being here means being exposed to both the small percentage of men who value submissives as people with feelings, and the wider horny majority who just want to dump their cum in you.


I'm one who isn't into casual sex and it's really very doubtful that any kind of play or sex would occur until I knew someone quite well over time. Perhaps it's an age thing, because at forty nine I no longer have anything to prove to anyone and I tend to please myself first and foremost. It's me I have to live with, wake up to, and look at in the mirror every morning.

I say this to make the point to everyone and the OP that I wouldn't give a damn what anyone on this site thinks about my particular brand of morality and it certainly wouldn't matter to me what some prospective dominant or submissive thinks about it. I definitely don't care if someone thinks I'm a prude. lol. They can kiss my rosy rear end and move on if they don't like it. And if they are interested in me, then we'll discuss it on my terms because it's my body, and it's my mind and heart that has to live with my decisions and actions.

Don't ever allow anyone to pressure you or tell you what to do about what you feel is right or wrong when it comes to morality. In your gut, you know the answers. It takes great strength of character to listen to the beat of a different drummer and follow your heart. What's popular isn't always wise and isn't necessarily the right course for all.

To thine own self be true. Always.

And furthermore, be damn proud of who you are and what you believe in..




MissMagnolia -> RE: Seriously, when did this become a joke? (4/14/2008 11:39:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NakedOnMyChain



I haven't read the other posts yet, but I had to throw my opinion into the ring.



I read that as "throw my onion into the ring". I got very confused. Yes, I now have my glasses on.[8|]





GreedyTop -> RE: Seriously, when did this become a joke? (4/14/2008 11:41:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MissMagnolia

quote:

ORIGINAL: NakedOnMyChain



I haven't read the other posts yet, but I had to throw my opinion into the ring.



I read that as "throw my onion into the ring". I got very confused. Yes, I now have my glasses on.[8|]




*snort*




hopelessfool -> RE: Seriously, when did this become a joke? (4/14/2008 11:41:58 PM)

Michevious.

No one got on her case for her wanting to follow her own code. People got on her case because she basically said, everyone who doesnt Follow this code is immoral.

I dont follow that code. It doesnt make me immoral. I still live by my own moral code.

You make generalizations and sterotype people, you get claws and fangs in return...  Oh oh, my forum whoring has made me indecent ^_^ I think Im going to celebrate...




themischievous1 -> RE: Seriously, when did this become a joke? (4/14/2008 11:58:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: hopelessfool

Michevious.

No one got on her case for her wanting to follow her own code. People got on her case because she basically said, everyone who doesnt Follow this code is immoral.

I dont follow that code. It doesnt make me immoral. I still live by my own moral code.

You make generalizations and sterotype people, you get claws and fangs in return...  Oh oh, my forum whoring has made me indecent ^_^ I think Im going to celebrate...



Hopeless,
According to Websters and probably some other assundry dictionaries etc., not following traditional moral codes may make you exactly that -- immoral, I mean. Have a look see.

Main Entry: im·mor·al


Function: adjective
Pronunciation: (")i(m)-'mo r-&l, -'mär-
: not moral ; broadly : conflicting with generally or traditionally held moral principles
- im·mor·al·ly

/-&-le/ adverb

Now I don't think "traditional moral principles" hold that you climb into bed or get naked and beaten by a perfect stranger on the first date. Someone is welcome to do some research on "traditional moral principles" though and source some documentation for us on the topic. lol. [I don't have time right now]. But to my mind, morality has always involved holding back a little and leaving a little something to the imagination -- not putting it all out there on the first few dates to someone almost immediately. -shrug-
Just my opinion. I do firmly believe in each to his own, however, but that doesn't mean the behavior is "moral."




GreedyTop -> RE: Seriously, when did this become a joke? (4/15/2008 12:03:13 AM)

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Pronunciation: (")i(m)-'mo r-&l, -'mär-
: not moral ; broadly : conflicting with generally or traditionally held moral principles


in other words, something constructed by society, not a species imperative. 




CalifChick -> RE: Seriously, when did this become a joke? (4/15/2008 12:04:45 AM)

Yeah, like no sex before or outside of marriage.  Oopsss!  Pot, meet kettle.

Cali




GreedyTop -> RE: Seriously, when did this become a joke? (4/15/2008 12:07:10 AM)

Cali?  *SMOOOCH*




CalifChick -> RE: Seriously, when did this become a joke? (4/15/2008 12:07:58 AM)

[sm=couple.gif]




heartcream -> RE: Seriously, when did this become a joke? (4/15/2008 1:31:46 AM)


For me there has been enough times when I have met a guy liked him and done him, let him do me. I have some understandings at this point in my life how and why that happened. I am not saying I wouldnt do it again, I likely would.

I do feel it is true that when you have sex with someone you exchange with them on all levels conscious and unconscious. Whatever deep stuff is in each person is mixed together with their own deep stuff. I personally have noticed after not having been with someone for a while and then getting with someone how I feel after the fact.

Nowadays I am far more wary about who I let near me that way. Most men do not interest me. Some men who do interest me are not interested in me. Some men I find fascinating and interesting I would not sleep with because I would end off the night feeling like flotsam drifting away to deal with the rejection, lack of anything else other than the physical connection.











swtnsparkling -> RE: Seriously, when did this become a joke? (4/15/2008 2:04:41 AM)

quote:

missbratly
I read this, and then I read the flood of posts that followed it claiming that there was nothing wrong with being a bunch of whores, and I despaired.

Unfortunately, it would appear that being submissive is too often confused with being a slut. As to all those who say "oh what's so wrong with enjoying sex?" Well, nothing, but there are some of us who enjoy it more when it is with someone who cares about us. The problem with fucking a lot of people is that you can hardly cliam that you care about them or vice versa.

Katsmeow, you're right. Being on this site does often mean that the males treat you as if you were a free whore. Unfortunately, thats because a great deal of the women here are free whores. They like it, it apparently works for them (though to be honest, with the amount of mental illness reported amongst people here, I doubt that it is actually all that good or safe, but hey, they're grown ups, if they want to allow their bodies to be used by all and sundry, its their funeral).

There's nothing wrong with having one's own moral code, and there's nothing wrong with desiring to be treated in a fashion that is respectful and doesn't assume that you're a cheap damaged slut looking for a fix of sexual affection. 

Unfortunately, being here means being exposed to both the small percentage of men who value submissives as people with feelings, and the wider horny majority who just want to dump their cum in you.


Another very good post reply, let's see that makes 4  I've read in 7 pages

some people are soooooooo touchy




colouredin -> RE: Seriously, when did this become a joke? (4/15/2008 3:20:39 AM)

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ORIGINAL: missbratly
The problem with fucking a lot of people is that you can hardly cliam that you care about them or vice versa.


So what? As you say you want them to care about you, thats good for you, I personally dont care. I dont attach things the same way as you, sex doesnt mean love play doesnt have to involved sex. In fact I am a million times more careful when deciding if I want to play with someone than when I decide to have sex with them they for me arent the same thing.

quote:


Katsmeow, you're right. Being on this site does often mean that the males treat you as if you were a free whore.


Do they? I mean sure there are the people who send you one line messages and the people who want kinky sex, good for them I can see right through it and dont talk to them. You can only be treated like one if you let it happen or else they are simply sending you a message. There are so many comments like this all the time, we all get stupid mail from time to time but I dont understand this assertation at all I guess because very few of the people I actually talk to are like this.

quote:


They like it, it apparently works for them (though to be honest, with the amount of mental illness reported amongst people here, I doubt that it is actually all that good or safe, but hey, they're grown ups, if they want to allow their bodies to be used by all and sundry, its their funeral).
there's nothing wrong with desiring to be treated in a fashion that is respectful and doesn't assume that you're a cheap damaged slut looking for a fix of sexual affection. 


Right so having casual sex implied mental illness and means you are cheap? Jesus talk about women perpetuating a shit opinion of ourselves, men want sex and its just natural women wanting it means that there is something wrong with them? I guess this comes down to your view on sex, personally I like sex I think its fun, I dont need to use it to feel loved and I dont hold it like some magical thing, a power "I will only sleep with you when I care about you" its so outdated. If you chose to have sex with someone you arent being used you are just two consenting adults. And having sex with people for pleasure isnt disrespecting yourself - "sex is pleasurable, pleasure is good" (ethical slut)

This conversation is so far away from BDSM now its unfunny, I just had to respond to that post because I find it so sad that people think that way.









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