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RealityLicks -> RE: Israel refused to guard Jimmy Carter (4/21/2008 11:22:45 AM)

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We can accept Israel as neighbour, says Hamas.

Hamas said today it would accept a Palestinian state on land occupied in the 1967 war, but it would not explicitly recognise Israel.
Khaled Meshaal, the leader of Hamas, said the group would "respect Palestinian national will even if it was against our convictions", an apparent reference to a referendum on a peace deal.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/21/israel

Effectively, if Abbas and Olmert reach an agreement Hamas will not bar the way, although some quarters suggest any  referendum should include diasporan Palestinians. 

This excursion of Carter's seems destined to fail in achieving ceasefire but looks increasingly like a shrewd attempt to position him as an honest broker for future talks.  I don't believe that he really had no protection or that Washington and Tel Aviv disapproved of his talks with Hamas, simply that he needed to establish a little distance from both in order to appear credible.  Olmert would talk to Hamas but the hawks in the coalition won't tolerate it.

Perhaps now Fatah and Hamas can turn to healing the rift between them, which will strengthen them both.




RealityLicks -> RE: Israel refused to guard Jimmy Carter (4/21/2008 2:07:57 PM)

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meatcleaver -> RE: Israel refused to guard Jimmy Carter (4/22/2008 1:15:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: RealityLicks

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We can accept Israel as neighbour, says Hamas.

Hamas said today it would accept a Palestinian state on land occupied in the 1967 war, but it would not explicitly recognise Israel.
Khaled Meshaal, the leader of Hamas, said the group would "respect Palestinian national will even if it was against our convictions", an apparent reference to a referendum on a peace deal.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/apr/21/israel

Effectively, if Abbas and Olmert reach an agreement Hamas will not bar the way, although some quarters suggest any  referendum should include diasporan Palestinians. 

This excursion of Carter's seems destined to fail in achieving ceasefire but looks increasingly like a shrewd attempt to position him as an honest broker for future talks.  I don't believe that he really had no protection or that Washington and Tel Aviv disapproved of his talks with Hamas, simply that he needed to establish a little distance from both in order to appear credible.  Olmert would talk to Hamas but the hawks in the coalition won't tolerate it.

Perhaps now Fatah and Hamas can turn to healing the rift between them, which will strengthen them both.



Israel doesn't want a honest broker, it wants the thugs and criminals in the Whitehouse to carry on doing what Israel wants them to do.




RealityLicks -> RE: Israel refused to guard Jimmy Carter (4/22/2008 1:53:47 AM)

I think it's less clear cut than that.  There's something very paradoxical about a gov't that follows policies of assasination while simultaneously pursuing disengagement.  Although admittedly, that seems to have slowed since Sharon's health failed.  In any case, the gov't of a country and the general population are often at odds and clearly, the aggressive settler mentality is not shared by everyone.




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