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ORIGINAL: Phoenix2raven

I believe it is a possibility if the Dom has working experience in the substance abuse field. The Dom would need to use behavior modification coupled with motivational interviewing techniques. Depending on the severity of the submissives addiction i.e. substance abuse vs substance dependence. The other obvious factor would be how much denial the submissive has and if they were pre contemplative or contemplative about their problem. All of this would be a moot point if the submissive had both addiction and mental health problems simply because you cant treat the addiction unless you treat the mental health and vice versa. Not to mention any Dom who wanted to take on the task of doing that would need to have a huge amount a patience. I also believe that this may set up a unhealthy codependency which could result in a very bad dynamic between Dom and sub.       

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ORIGINAL: wandersalone
Hi Impossiblesub, psychologists can't prescribe medication, it is psychiatrists who are able to do that as they are doctors so I am not sure how or why a psychologist would see a benefit in encouraging a person to take medication or not to take medication for that matter.

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ORIGINAL: impossiblesub
Yeah my terminology was off there. Let me provide you an example of what I meant though.  I knew this woman once whose child was diagnosed as hyperactive and placed on ritalin after he began to go to school. The thing is, I know for a fact that the child was never diciplined as a young child. He was left in his room to play alone all the time and never made to just "sit still and be quiet". The behavioral issue was a lack of proper training.

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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

So you know that this child went to a psychiatrist, and you know that the psychiatrist declined to do any psychological testing and declined to do a psych eval which would pinpoint the issue, and instead just diagnosed the child as "hyperactive" (which is not a diagnosis) and put them on ritalin?  Were you that child?

It's easy to give third hand accounts and them denigrate an entire class of professionals based on that third hand account.  It usually doesn't stand up to scrutiny under bright lights, however.

Cali

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ORIGINAL: impossiblesub
I said many, not all, of said professionals, perhaps I should have said some. I know many people who had "problem children" for whatever reason that I have kept for extended periods and never had any issues with. There are certainly schools available for children with behavioral issues or dicipline problems.
My point is thus - drugs should be the LAST option EVER unless the patient is a danger to himself or society, is not functional within society, or has some brain abnormality which is determined with medical testing.
The first thing many psychiatrists do is write a perscription. There are many issues which will only come to light after prolonged psychoanalysis. This could take many years of 1 hour a week therapy and in the course of this treatment the patient may develop an addiction to the prescribed substance. Then you have another problem. You have also developed the mentality in a child to use drugs to solve a problem, possibly creating a lifelong subtance abuse issue.

I suppose many may think it is perfectly ok for a person to visit a psychiatrist and take drugs their whole life for no good reason other than that is the way they think they should deal with all of their problems in life, but I do not.

In addition it can be disruptive to an entire family if one person gets psychological treatment and the rest do not. I do not see "solving" one person's problems at the expense of several others who while not perfectly "well-balanced" or whatever you wish to call it, are nonetheless happy and healthy otherwise, to be a valid solution.

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ORIGINAL: wandersalone
I will be honest, I find some of your comments worrying. 

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP
Unlike the children you propose to have suffer for years needlessly, mine hasn't lost anything.

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ORIGINAL: wandersalone
drugs should be the last resort? If a person believes that the medication is having a positive impact on them and their life even if they do not fit into the categories you mentioned does this mean they should not be taking the medication?  Surely it is up to each individual to be given choices about the treatments available to them and to make their own informed decisions.  Does telling a person who believes that their medication (or therapy or whatever they find helpful) is keeping them sane that they shouldn't be taking it, that they are avoiding dealing with their problems helping them?

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ORIGINAL: ChainedExistence

You know...everyone who sees a psychiatrist isn't handed instanteous medication, nor do they go for extended periods of time. I saw a one a grand total of four times...cried the entire time for the first three visits, and by the fourth, knew in my heart it was ok to leave my marriage. Sometimes they simply act as that objective third party that can act as a sounding board-asking you the pointed questions to help you clarify a situation. He never mentioned medicine at any point and  he never batted an eyelash on that last visit when I told him I wouldn't be back. He simply told me he was glad he could help. Perhaps I could have gotten the same thing from a friend, but really the fact that was a stranger was what helped me most. He had nothing to gain or lose from my decision. Now, to the point of D/s as a Cure for depression.....I'm not sure I'd buy that. I do agree with the many here who said things like it helped them re-center, or relieve stress. I've noticed that myself but I can't see it being all that helpful for serious emotional problems.  

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ORIGINAL: impossiblesub

I think you are misunderstanding my statement. Of course a child with a mental illness needs the appropriate medication. The diagnosis should be correct however.