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ORIGINAL: lateralist1

There is a difference between helping someone to learn the process of making good decisions and making those decisions for them.
The first enables the second disables.

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ORIGINAL: MastrVran

Ok...I will toss in my viewpoint. Over the years I have been in this lifestyle, I know many, that are submissive to some extent and in some areas, and have little or no need for any real protection, online or in real.  Then as some have said, they actually do have problems, with making wise decisions about certain aspects of their lives. Others need help monitoring there own actions because for what ever reason, they seem to almost always be submissive and have a hard time saying no. For them having the easy out of, "I cant talk to you or obey you unless my protector says its ok" helps keep them safe. 

Is that kind of protection reasonable for most people? Heck no. Nor is it needed, wanted nor would it be appreciated at all.

Then as some have mentioned you have the person who is your safe call, will come get you when you are drunk and cant drive, or any of a number of real life useful situations develope, like please come bail me out of jail for this traffic stop, and they are there or will be when called.

The real problem as most have described, is the guy who out of the blue without knowing anything about you, wants to protect you. He can't have a clue of what protections you might need, if any. So yeah, protection from someone like him is what you really need protection from.

Over the years I have even on occasion been an online protector lol. And no, I cant really do a tremendous amount as such, but I can be a sounding board,  help guide someone with issues in a better direction, since not everyone is able to make wise choices and those that know they cant, really do need some help. For those of you who are sure you and everyone else is as capable as you are, I am sorry, you are wrong. Some people simply, for what ever reason, constantly make bad choices. And no, its not my responsibility to fix them. But should I choose to help them, then it does become my responsibility to do so as best I can.

MV

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ORIGINAL: NakedOnMyChain
Sheesh!  Even their Wangs get capitalized?  I'm going to have to get me one of those.

*meant in all silliness*

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama

I'm not going to reply to any one person, just re-iterate a few of my real points, because I think they've been obscured by domiguy's Straw Man bs.


A lot of male dominants in this thread apparently cannot imagine having any friendship or desire to look out for a person they do not personally own.  That's fine, I guess--takes all kinds to make a world--and so long as you and your own subs are happy, I have no beef with you.  However, not all dominants feel this way; some of us are more than capable of being friends with people we do not own.  It's not the same investment you make in your own submissive, but it's not nothing either, and it doesn't have to be demonized as some sort of Great Conspiracy to Make Femme Subs Pathetic, or whatever the hell the rationale here is.

Personally, I think people who have no one to talk to and no one to call on when they need help are a helluva lot more pathetic than people who do.  "Isolated" does not necessarily equal "strong".

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ShaktiSama
Primary: non-consensual kidnapping, rape, abuse and murder.

Secondary: being more subtly victimized by those who manipulate, deceive, and mislead newcomers to the scene or newcomers to their submission about issues as diverse as their basic rights as submissives or simple play safety.

Tertiary: commonly suffered mood swings and errors in judgment called "sub drop" and "submissive frenzy", which can cause some submissives to make irrational or self-destructive decisions while in the throes of their submissive passions. Having objective, non-submissive third parties to serve as a wall to bounce ideas, plans and incidents off can sometimes be a very good thing.

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LaT
A. Thank god the general population of CM is smart enough to realize all female dominants are not the same.......whew!

B. Any grown adult that cannot make intelligent choices for their own life, better not think about coming near me. If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, sit your ass down, shut up, watch listen and learn! You make some mistakes, do some stupid shit, say some stupid shit, get called on it. You either get a bug up your ass or you realize they are right. And guess what........YOU LEARN!! This BDSM stuff isn't any more complex than any other part of life. If you need someone to hold your hand through the supermarket, when going to buy groceries, you've got bigger problems than any UberSuperCool dominant protector can help you with.

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ORIGINAL: MastrVran

Usually a Dominant with a Dick is better than some Dick who thinks he is Dominant. But some people might disagree.

MV

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ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael
I don't have to search anything, your sexist bullshit is clear as a bell. 

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ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama
Face it; there are some male dominants who have been on my butt like a dirty diaper from the git-go on these forums.  Domiguy in particular always addresses me first in any thread where we butt heads, always leads with attempted belitlement, insults and complete refusal to understand any point I'm making, and always in general comes across as a complete cock.

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ORIGINAL: CalifChick

Am I the only one thinking they should just get a room and fuck already?        

Cali

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ORIGINAL: domiguy
This is the difference between you and me...I will help those that need it.