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domiguy -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/16/2008 6:28:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama Face it; there are some male dominants who have been on my butt like a dirty diaper from the git-go on these forums. Domiguy in particular always addresses me first in any thread where we butt heads, always leads with attempted belitlement, insults and complete refusal to understand any point I'm making, and always in general comes across as a complete cock. "Domiguy in particular ALWAYS addresses me first in any thread where we buttheads." I think we might have butted heads ONE other time?....I'm not at all surprised if in your mind this constitutes "always." I'm sure it is just another poor choice of words. What's new. Go back to my first post in this thread....I didn't say shit to you...I simply stated that this "community harbors some of the dumbest motherfuckers I have ever seen." I believe your response was for me to "blow you." I am mostly cock and I am known for my balls....Except when around Mod11....Have I mentioned, Mod11, that you look lovely this evening? Have you lost weight? New hair do? What's that perfume? It's simply breathtaking. Anywhoooo....I don't usually make this type of an offer...I don't usually enjoy stepping out and helping those I don't have a solid connection with. Unless it is just a simple charitable effort.. But do you need a hug? Or perhaps you would like someone to preview your thoughts and scribblings before they meet the light of day? People would think better of you. I have been known to speak my mind and gain a mod's wrath...But I have learned and quite frankly I offer great advice though I have been known to ignore it. Come to your new mentor, friend and protector....The tent of domiguy is vast and we will cater to all...even Dommes who have lost their way or are experiencing the tertiary symptoms of Domme drop or Domme frenzy. A domme is a horrible thing to waste.

domiguy -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/16/2008 6:41:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ShaktiSama quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy This is the difference between you and me...I will help those that need it. shrug Then there is no difference between you and me, babydoll. I never said that help should be thrust upon people who don't need it, or even offered to those who don't appreciate it. I have no idea where you're getting all this shite--you honestly seem to be talking to someone who exists only in your head. I haven't said HALF the shite you think you hear! Please don't say there is no difference between us..Babydoll. And if you are going to quote me please put up the whole quote. quote: Me This is the difference between you and me...I will help those that need it. Not continually. I will not be a crutch. You talk about " a lot of male dominants in this thread apparently cannot imagine having any friendship or desire to look out for a person they do not personally own." You are a crutch to those who can't make decisions because of primary and tertiary circumstances...Remember...They are going to get kidknapped and murdered and killed...don't forget how they will be manipulated or have their rights abused or experience subdrop or subfrenzy. They are weak have are incapable of making strong decisions....They need people like you. If you aren't capable of making sound decisions on a regular basis please stay clear of me. I can't help you...You are an adult. So please start acting like it. There are people who just love to help those they perceive to be in danger or weak...They love the movie Taxi Driver...They need to get their nose into your bizness. These people on the whole tend to be the most fucked up individuals you will ever meet. They will attempt to straighten out your life while their own is usually in complete disarray. If you are a sub and can't keep your shit together I implore you to seek these people out...Hopefully your disastrous decision making process will kill you both.

DMFParadox -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/16/2008 8:03:40 PM)
Wow. I was just going to drop in a cute line: "I'm a fetishist for being a knight in shining armor, but damsels in distress scare the shit out of me...." But the tone of this thread went from [:)] to [sm=axe.gif]. Therefore, I'll simply raise the scorecard. Shakti got in a couple good hits, but Domi is currently this judge's favorite; score is 7 Shakti, 8 Domi. Return to your corners and towel off, take a breather.... For the record, and feel free to flame me on this (or to not care) but I haven't once met a 'feminist' that I could stand for more than ten minutes. I also find that they're easier to get into bed (if I hold my nose), so I typically reserve friendship for women who don't care and my best abrasive, aggravating, chauvanistic, and pugnacious attitudes for the women who will respond most strongly to them. Logical? No. But try it, it's fun. Women who have self-respect regardless of their gender, and don't rise to the bait of my chauvanist harangues, are also women that tend to act in a fair and balanced way towards the rest of their lives. Makes being an ass a great shit-test. Still, Shakti is a very well spoken--er, typen--feminist, so she doesn't come out without getting a few points. As to the specific merits of her case, I really don't give a damn, I'm only rating on style. Btw, Shakti, the Dom's Network is paying me off at our secret meeting tomorrow for attempting to help in keeping you down. It sucks that you're clued in to the old boys; however did you find out? Paradox

LadyHibiscus -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/16/2008 8:15:13 PM)
Back to the boards after three days and missed a war? And to think I just leaped in at the end to read what Paradox had to say..... And here's my nonsequitur, in reply---- When Old Feminist Francine runs into an utter jerk/chauvinist/pig, she smiles kindly and moves along. What's that saying about teaching a pig to sing? Wastes your time and annoys the pig? At the end of the day, the pig will remain a pig, and wind up either alone, or with the person he deserves.

GreedyTop -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/16/2008 8:17:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DMFParadox Wow. I was just going to drop in a cute line: "I'm a fetishist for being a knight in shining armor, but damsels in distress scare the shit out of me...." But the tone of this thread went from [:)] to [sm=axe.gif]. Therefore, I'll simply raise the scorecard. Shakti got in a couple good hits, but Domi is currently this judge's favorite; score is 7 Shakti, 8 Domi. Return to your corners and towel off, take a breather.... For the record, and feel free to flame me on this (or to not care) but I haven't once met a 'feminist' that I could stand for more than ten minutes. I also find that they're easier to get into bed (if I hold my nose), so I typically reserve friendship for women who don't care and my best abrasive, aggravating, chauvanistic, and pugnacious attitudes for the women who will respond most strongly to them. Logical? No. But try it, it's fun. Women who have self-respect regardless of their gender, and don't rise to the bait of my chauvanist harangues, are also women that tend to act in a fair and balanced way towards the rest of their lives. Makes being an ass a great shit-test. Still, Shakti is a very well spoken--er, typen--feminist, so she doesn't come out without getting a few points. As to the specific merits of her case, I really don't give a damn, I'm only rating on style. Btw, Shakti, the Dom's Network is paying me off at our secret meeting tomorrow for attempting to help in keeping you down. It sucks that you're clued in to the old boys; however did you find out? Paradox snicker

lronitulstahp -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/16/2008 8:19:56 PM)
i think Domi is a smartass, and can be a jerk...but definately in an equal oppurtunity way. A real prick? Sometimes. Misogynistic...hardly.

LadyHibiscus -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/16/2008 8:21:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lronitulstahp Misogynistic...hardly. You're kidding, right?

lronitulstahp -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/16/2008 8:26:57 PM)
no...i think a persona doesn't always represent a person's true nature. For instance he doesn't actually look like a dead rapper...that's part of the persona...

ModeratorEleven -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/16/2008 8:29:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DMFParadox Therefore, I'll simply raise the scorecard. Shakti got in a couple good hits, but Domi is currently this judge's favorite; score is 7 Shakti, 8 Domi. Return to your corners and towel off, take a breather.... They're both going to get counted out of this nonsense keeps up. XI

domiguy -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/16/2008 8:34:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ModeratorEleven quote: ORIGINAL: DMFParadox Therefore, I'll simply raise the scorecard. Shakti got in a couple good hits, but Domi is currently this judge's favorite; score is 7 Shakti, 8 Domi. Return to your corners and towel off, take a breather.... They're both going to get counted out of this nonsense keeps up. XI Did I mention that you look lovely tonight. I think somone polished your knob...It's really quite stunning. quote: lronitulstahp no...i think a persona doesn't always represent a person's true nature. For instance he doesn't actually look like a dead rapper...that's part of the persona... I think you actually might be the proterctor I have been seeking. Save me.

DMFParadox -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/16/2008 8:52:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy Did I mention that you look lovely tonight. I think somone polished your knob...It's really quite stunning. quote: lronitulstahp no...i think a persona doesn't always represent a person's true nature. For instance he doesn't actually look like a dead rapper...that's part of the persona... I think you actually might be the proterctor I have been seeking. Save me. tears, I can't breath. You're absolutely right, Mod11's knob is absolutely stunning, especially more so after I found her viewing my profile... Last time that happened, I lost a thread. That knob has been spit-shined to perfection, btw. Shinier than I've ever seen it. D

joiduvie -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/16/2008 9:24:49 PM)
Pardon me for my confusion, but why does a submissive need protection. Submissive/slave does not mean stupid. But many times when the situation does not turn out how they percieved it would, or they perhaps were not satisfied with the results, some find the need to place blame on others. Reality check, if someone chooses to fall for a line, does not mean they did not understand it was a line, it just means they either liked the delivery or the possible consequences. So instead of bashing the dominant, where is the responsability of the submisive who made the choice, and yes it was a choice. Heck, if you do not want someone's hand on your ass, you put up enough fuss, they remove it. If they do not remove it, we are not discussing dominant submissive, we are talking abuse, which has legal ramifications. Many times the question of oh let me protect you, ie hmmm you look fuckable, and oh yes please protect me strong Sir, ie. hmmm you might be fun to fuck, is exactally that. Suck it up, be honest on your motives for accepting the so called protection and stand by the choice you make, or at least acknowledge your part in it. This does not appear to be the case of a victim, instead the case of someone unwilling to be accountable or honest.

ExSteelAgain -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/17/2008 2:09:26 AM)
There is an inherent problem in a relationship that has a dominant “protecting” a submissive. If the submissive comes to depend on the dominant for advice, nurturing or simple friendship, the dominant is gaining control over her. (Works the same for all sexual persuasions…just using male Dom and female sub for example). If the dominant is giving her ANYTHING from comforting words, explanations or rules to follow she will become dependent on him. As a dominant and having the understanding that ANYTHING I give her will increase the likelihood that she will end up dependent and under my control, if I really want to help her, I will steer clear of giving her advice or whatever. I’ll introduce her to a submissive friend, introduce her to a group and be generally friendly, but that’s it. This is also self-serving for me because if she becomes used to whatever guidance I’m giving her, she will feel entitled to it. She will become angry and definitely not my friend if she loses her "right" to my gift of protection/guidance/control. Giving a submissive guidance equals control and power over her is it in a nutshell, but everyone on both sides already knew that.

TysGalilah -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/17/2008 2:18:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LilMissHaven I've searched the site and found many places where protection is discussed but never quite to my satisfaction. I'm constantly barraged with emails from Dom's driven to protect me and for the life of me I can't figure out what they are protecting me from that I can't already protect myself from. Are we under attack? Have aliens landed? I know I'm coming off as sarcastic but I'm seriously confused, in this day and age if a woman can't protect herself there probably isn't much chance someone else can. sometimes he protects me from myself...

pettingdragons -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/17/2008 3:08:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa The thing that gets me is this "online protection". [sm=wtf.gif] Does a submissive not know how to turn off the computer? What exactly is being protected? I have never understood it, prolly never will, but to each their own. MoGa [sm=oddballs.gif] Oh oh me me waves hand* I know this one.....They think they are your fire walls....I always ask them if they come with free virus protection...they ususally leave me alone after that....LOL pamela *Master Dragons considered slave and liquid honey pot*

pettingdragons -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/17/2008 3:19:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: camille65 Bugs. I'm totally fine with any dom wanting to protect me from bugs, or birds. LMAO...I have a wonderful Master but if /when he is not around....i need protection from bugs too....unless i carry one of his big shoes...but then there is the issue of getting the scratches out of the leather and scraping the guts off the shoe ewww...... pamela *Master Dragon considered slave and dripping honey pot*

pettingdragons -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/17/2008 3:30:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BOUNTYHUNTER Bears are bad here as well tee and the ol' boogie man that walks at night all Thur the woods,hes partial to disobedient little subbies smile... On a serious note if you depend on most Dom's for protection then you are into a world of shit...Most offer protection to keep you tied to them while they figure a way into you panties....I would be wary of those offering such but of courses there are a very few good guys in white hats out there...BH Oh i LOVE it when Master hides in the cloest or under the bed and comes out as the Boogie man... pamela Master Dragons concidered slave and today his drippin honey pot*

pettingdragons -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/17/2008 3:39:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Luciferica I dunno what Dom's are protecting you from, I have to protect my husband from doing really dumb things, like take all the food I had set aside for dinner to work with him so that there is no dinner food because the dumbass spent our grocery money for the week on something dumb. I had to take away the checkbook...He says he feels safe with me there, and I am the meaner one, he'll sit there and take shit from others until I step in and ream them out...so maybe thats the kind of protection? OH oH so how many of us PROTECT our Domiants from dumb shit....like where are my keys, getting lost, pilling the cat....etc... LMAO pamela Master Dragons considered slave...and drippng honey pot*

Poetryinpain -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/17/2008 10:02:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ExSteelAgain There is an inherent problem in a relationship that has a dominant “protecting” a submissive. If the submissive comes to depend on the dominant for advice, nurturing or simple friendship, the dominant is gaining control over her. (Works the same for all sexual persuasions…just using male Dom and female sub for example). If the dominant is giving her ANYTHING from comforting words, explanations or rules to follow she will become dependent on him. As a dominant and having the understanding that ANYTHING I give her will increase the likelihood that she will end up dependent and under my control, if I really want to help her, I will steer clear of giving her advice or whatever. I’ll introduce her to a submissive friend, introduce her to a group and be generally friendly, but that’s it. This is also self-serving for me because if she becomes used to whatever guidance I’m giving her, she will feel entitled to it. She will become angry and definitely not my friend if she loses her "right" to my gift of protection/guidance/control. Giving a submissive guidance equals control and power over her is it in a nutshell, but everyone on both sides already knew that. This applies in any relationship of any flavor or orientation. I have at times given advice and support to a female vanilla friend, only to find that she is an emotional black hole - the more I pour in, the more she demands of me. Pretty soon I find myself practically carrying her through life. Then I have to wean her from my support, which usually ends the friendship, as it was never truly a friendship but an exercise in co-dependency. She needed me to make her decisions, and I needed to feel superior, mentally, morally, and emotionally. The 'Lady Bountiful' syndrome, I call it - and I'm not even a dominant person. To be on the 'giving' end of this arrangement can be a heady experience. But it becomes draining - all the work is one-sided, and there is no positive feedback. It also does the 'receiving' partner no good. Sometimes a person needs to have negative things happen in order to learn a lesson. Old proverbs often become popular because they are true. 'Once burned, twice shy' is apropos here - once you get burned by a bad encounter, you are going to be more careful in your choice next time. At least I hope you are. I will be there for someone to help them over the roughest spots of recovery, but I'm not going to shroud them in cotton batting to protect them from life's sharp edges. Nobody did that for me, and I'm glad I learned my own lessons - I remember them better. pip, proud alumna of the School of Hard Knocks *edited because I got distracted

ExSteelAgain -> RE: What exactly are Dom's protecting us from? (4/17/2008 2:54:20 PM)
Yes, I think we're on the same page. The only point I'll say again is that the Dom/submissve protective relationship has the flaw built in that it can lead to a flat out Dom/sub relationship from all the factors you mentioned while a friendship of female submissives, for instance, would not have that possibility.

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